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Topic: BTC Stolen from Poloniex - page 20. (Read 167444 times)

member
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March 04, 2014, 10:18:31 PM
luckily SUN is on LTC market so all our miners are good.
sr. member
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March 04, 2014, 10:18:16 PM
Markets unfrozen yet? What's the status of poleoniex?

They took 12% of our bitcoin ($300) for me, and told us everything is alright now, so just continue on about our business.

No, that's not what he said. He said he'd repay it. That makes it a loan.

All these people who never made a mistake and also never checked to see if these "obvious" flaws they now crow about existed might make that take a while though. As has already been mentioned, losing 12% is not unusual in trading, not to mention crypto trading, but spreading unfounded negativity to ensure you lose more is plain illogical. No good comes of that for anyone.

If you trust the admin, that's your decision. If you don't and get out, you've no dog in the fight so maybe leave it to those who have to win or lose based on their own gut feelings or research?
legendary
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getmonero.org
March 04, 2014, 09:53:18 PM
The guy might not have the best technical skills but he is transparent and doesnt look like he wants scam people. Of course noone knows but for now he could have taken everything but he didnt.

I received my Darkcoins so for me  everything is fine. Hope the best for you guys too.
member
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March 04, 2014, 09:53:09 PM
Idk if that was sarcatinc.... lol
newbie
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March 04, 2014, 09:52:22 PM
Markets unfrozen yet? What's the status of poleoniex?

They took 12% of our bitcoin ($300) for me, and told us everything is alright now, so just continue on about our business.
full member
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March 04, 2014, 09:51:57 PM

The hacker discovered that if you place several withdrawals all in practically the same instant, they will get processed at more or less the same time. This will result in a negative balance, but valid insertions into the database, which then get picked up by the withdrawal daemon.


Are you kidding me? Did you do any research on past Bitcoin exchanges hacks before auditing your code?

That exact same "hack" has been done on multiple exchanges in the past.

Another guy who's created an exchange but yet somehow doesn't know what a database transaction is... unreal.

Indeed, so let's tell him and help him out. He does have the bit most of the other exchange owners were missing, a bit of decency and moral fibre..

Put another way, most people capable of making an exceptional exchange that's technically just right, have neither the will or inclination to run one long term, and the profits involved are too low to warrant doing it.

Probably why you and I both don't have our own exchanges, eh.
member
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March 04, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Markets unfrozen yet? What's the status of poleoniex?
sr. member
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March 04, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
hi busoni,
i got a err msg 'COMPLETE: ERROR, NOT SENT',when i withdraw my xcp,and my xcp account balances lost too,so what is the problem? wait for your reply.thanks you

Withdrawal History (Last 25)

Currency   Amount   Address   Date   Status
XCP   48.3   1Cw83Jmn5oDTRUh9oTZdeSBu67NuG5i***   2014-03-05 00:58:07   COMPLETE: ERROR, NOT SENT

[XCP] Counterparty: 0.00000002
Deposit: 1Esd2tJaMWY6MpuB6WxtfrehaeihaDoeyE
legendary
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March 04, 2014, 09:11:37 PM

The hacker discovered that if you place several withdrawals all in practically the same instant, they will get processed at more or less the same time. This will result in a negative balance, but valid insertions into the database, which then get picked up by the withdrawal daemon.


Are you kidding me? Did you do any research on past Bitcoin exchanges hacks before auditing your code?

That exact same "hack" has been done on multiple exchanges in the past.

Another guy who's created an exchange but yet somehow doesn't know what a database transaction is... unreal.
newbie
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March 04, 2014, 08:35:24 PM
I was also able to make a trade from ALT coin to Bitcoin and then withdrawal my money.  I was a little worried earlier but, waited it out to see what would happen.  I have to say I'm pretty happy with the way things turned out.  He even knew that a bunch of people would withdrawal their money and let that happen so that to me says he is honest.  I won't trade with him until he says he has gotten the holes completely patched and has hired a security programmer but, after that with this experience I would definitely trade with him again.  I know it is my first post but, you should soon start hearing more and more people saying the same thing.
member
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March 04, 2014, 08:31:39 PM
i'm out, thank you
newbie
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March 04, 2014, 08:14:41 PM
Thank you!!! I was able to withdraw my 10BTC! Thank you so much! I wish Gox were this easy.

https://blockchain.info/tx/c08b81abc8196cec6bf3e41399755567b230e71be089833315fb846427832d88


Thanks for being clear about the recent deposits, and that they should not be deducted. Nothing less than that would be reasonable. Thanks for being reasonable.

However, I would like to make sure that I not only do not lose any of my 10BTC, but also, that they would be withdrawable immediately, or sent back to me immediately. There is no reason to keep them locked up anymore, and there is no reason to delay their refund. I would like to be able to withdraw them immediately, or have them sent back to me immediately on the address I sent them from.

Please send them back and confirm. Thank you.




About recent deposits--it really wouldn't be fair to deduct deposits made after the BTC was taken. Obviously I should have posted a notice on the Balances page, but it is not difficult to make an exception for recent deposits.



I was not aware of this theft, and I stupidly sent in 10 BTC about 7 hours after your twitter announcement

https://blockchain.info/address/16CBhYouzdB4xgxeZ76RjF8wBRimtvMB2k

https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/440734781689446400

I expect to get the entire 10BTC balance back, and NOT 12.3% less, as I would've expected you to block deposits as well, or at least put up a sign on the front page of the site waring about the hack.

Please confirm that you agree and will do so. Thank you.
member
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March 04, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
Thanks Poloniex,

I have enjoyed using your site Smiley
hero member
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Merit: 500
March 04, 2014, 08:02:19 PM
Busoni, can you answer this one single question please:
Did you implement transaction atomicity on withdrawals or not?
Eurotrash, can you explain transaction atomicity, or link to somewhere that does?

I leave it to this excellent comment on reddit.
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Bitgoblin
March 04, 2014, 08:01:25 PM
The strategy of any magician is misdirection.

All of you are so busy thinking of the 4 "options". Shares? 12%? Raise fees?

All the while, you ignore the pink elephant in the room. The red flags that tell you something is wrong. But your subconscious doesn't want to hear it because we inherently believe in the good of our fellow human being.

The more minutes that pass while 1) there is no notice on the website; and 2) deposits are still being accepted; and 3) no email has gone out to everyone the more likely this is to be a trick in which we have all (willingly, by now) been aparty to.
At first I was too fooled by the apparent transparency and apparent good intentions, but now I admit jtpeters is fully right: this is really unexcusable and a huge sign for obvious scam or incredibly gross incompetence/foolishness.

To the people claiming "he's still here" I'll remind them that every scammer to buy himself some time will "hang around" a little while before actually disappearing.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
March 04, 2014, 07:58:48 PM
Busoni, thank you again. You really are a man of your word. I'm sure the stress of going through something like this was overwhelming, and you are handling it great. I wish there are more business owners like you. While the act of getting into debt (for us really) may seem now like a huge liability, I know it will definitely pay off tenfold for you as things progress.

jtpeters, I wish you are nowhere around me (or anyone for that matter) if there's ever an accident or catastrophe. Your ability to control your sense of panic is extremely lacking.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 04, 2014, 07:40:33 PM
 This is why we are building a #Bitcoin #Startup, help give us a chance at #SXSW http://game.startupbus.com/teams/15 Wink
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 04, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
when xcp whitdrawal working busoni?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 04, 2014, 07:04:46 PM
Just use Atomic-Trade if want an actual secure trading platform.   Why trust money to these amateur sites?  I just don't get it.
sr. member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 265
March 04, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
Trading is back on!

I get "this account is frozen" /scrap that...busoni is on chat now helping people.
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