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sr. member
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August 18, 2012, 09:17:45 PM
I'm closing this topic. Please continue discussion at http://btccharts.com/forum/index.php
sr. member
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August 15, 2012, 06:06:32 PM
A few more things I noticed:

1) Bitfloor order book is not complete. Elsewhere someone mentioned they have two APIs, one with complete orderbook.
I've contacted with them in this case. Full order book is available only by socketIO - this technology is banned for me. We must wait until they implement full orderbook. I really have no idea why they are afraid a little more traffic, it's so cheap. You can always bug them by the mail Wink

2) Bitfloor buys show up as red on the sale chart ,while sells show up as green. I am not sure if this is true for any other exchanges.
I've checked this case and it looking good at my code. Maybe bitfloor have this inverted. Anyway, I've inverted this at my code. Case with small trades range is the same as with orderbook - their API is passing just last 100 trades. I can get trades before but I don't want to spend time on this because this is only exchange that have such issue.

3) A toggle to hide the date information could be useful.

Check out: http://btccharts.com/forum/index.php?topic=4.msg12#msg12
legendary
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WalletScrutiny.com
August 15, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
Please send me your login to PM - I will check some stuff.

And guys, this site is 10 months hard work of developer with 13 years of experience. Do you think someone will spend so much time on site to give it just for free? Be happy that you have still at least one live service that will show you current trades and ob when big moves are going on.

I also have my projects that started as free projects with the intention to charge later. I'm also pissed, when people are disrespectful of my hard work.
My replies are hopefully not perceived as disrespectful. I try to give you my most honest feedback on who might be willing to pay how much and don't try to make you believe nobody's gonna pay anyway. People that complain about my app I point to my closest up competition. If they still nag, apparently I have what they want and there is nothing wrong with charging them whatever amount. In the end nobody is forced to pay. This approach clearly only works if you are the best in the field which you at the moment are, too.

My request to charge less was only as I find the step from paying nothing for a good service to paying a lot for the full product too steep. If you charge according to modules used, price scales both better with user's benefit and with your server load. I'm actually not using at all those modules (after i tried them all once) and the only incentive to pay is to get the total trade volume over a picked time frame.
full member
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August 15, 2012, 10:15:16 AM
Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
Please send me your login to PM - I will check some stuff.

And guys, this site is 10 months hard work of developer with 13 years of experience. Do you think someone will spend so much time on site to give it just for free? Be happy that you have still at least one live service that will show you current trades and ob when big moves are going on.

Nobody is complaining that you are charging, they are complaining because you are making unwanted changes AND charging.
sr. member
Activity: 398
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August 15, 2012, 04:16:59 AM
Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
Please send me your login to PM - I will check some stuff.

And guys, this site is 10 months hard work of developer with 13 years of experience. Do you think someone will spend so much time on site to give it just for free? Be happy that you have still at least one live service that will show you current trades and ob when big moves are going on.
legendary
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WalletScrutiny.com
August 15, 2012, 04:06:23 AM
Pay. I ROFLED when I read it...

guess if mtgoxlive had taken the challenge and kept up with development I would have rofled, too but now I see no real competitor Sad But I'm sure there will be.

Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
sr. member
Activity: 310
Merit: 250
August 15, 2012, 03:34:37 AM
Pay. I ROFLED when I read it...

Now I can't scroll...

Guess I don't need to use the site anymore.
sr. member
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August 14, 2012, 07:32:50 AM
i really decided to post just to say thanks to creator of btccharts for what was before changes, as i was using this service and was quite happy with it's speed and functionality before last updates. i don't like last new design change - in my opinion it works slower , less informative configuration, absense of white theme. but as long as it was free i has nothing to complain about. everything is changing and there is a lot of things we can't stop changing even if we like as it was before. but now when i noticed login bar, and the last useful bits of even that slow config was removed - i totally disappointed in this service. first - if i gonna pay for it - i must say that i would like to pay for older version, not new one. second - i found the use-fee is too high - if i pay for a month of use it costs me a half what i pay to my ISP. third - even if you say "pay when you need it" - i don't want to pay every time before i use it as i don't do hard daytrading most of the time, but i often use service as one of browser tabs which i can monitor for price and switch to it fast if i want to look for details and/or begin trading.
so to say finally, again thanks for past times of such service, and i also think you deserve to earn money with it - but personally i don't like this way so if you totally close the site to allow registered users only in next step - i probably then will have a kickstart to finish my own market monitoring routine with the output i like for myself and just add some load to gox servers while fetching their markets data.
hero member
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August 13, 2012, 12:39:29 PM
A few more things I noticed:

1) Bitfloor order book is not complete. Elsewhere someone mentioned they have two APIs, one with complete orderbook.

2) Bitfloor buys show up as red on the sale chart ,while sells show up as green. I am not sure if this is true for any other exchanges.

3) A toggle to hide the date information could be useful.
sr. member
Activity: 398
Merit: 250
August 13, 2012, 09:52:47 AM
1)If I click Account at the top it brings up a window with some bad typos:
Title: "Accout opotions"
To fix.

2) Time since last trade and order text is cut off (eg reads "t 2m 40 sec", o "00s" ). Perhaps this is on purpose.
On purpose (more space).

3) If I have multiple modules open and I wish to then add an archival chart I have no choice of which market this chart should refer to. I think it chooses the market of the most recently added module
So far only mtgox got archival data. Rest will be added later.

4) A sales only module has no title and timeframe cannot be adjusted
- It would be good if these sales modules also showed the price
Yes. I will add some info in tooltip and dragging.

5) Time range of trades, recent sales, and order book date is somewhat difficult to adjust precisely. It would be good to be able to type in a custom range.
Ok. I will add custom time by date (simple input, you write date like "2011 6 22") and work on dragging precision.

6) tooltips will sometimes go off the screen
To fix.


My only request is an option for annual payment, or perhaps even lifetime.
I don't want to have too much responsibility. Current max is 30 days. This will be extended to 60 if I decide this is out of beta. One minute once in 60 days is not big effort I think Wink

(and you need to charge more)
For now it's 0.08USD/day because of beta phase. Later (maybe next week) 0.35USD/day.

still no sounds?
Sounds are next feature todo (I'm open to suggestions in this case).

1) Export/import layout so that if someone has a good one they could easily share.
Yeah, that can be cool and not to hard to do. For now I can do simple import/export by text (json). Let's say in a month this should be ready.

2) Batch add module (ie all mt gox sales btc/currency pairs)
1) should do the trick (+maybe some html subpage with export text and preview gallery)


No comment on price topic Tongue
sr. member
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firstbits 1LoCBS
August 13, 2012, 07:46:57 AM
bzzard,

I am VERY pleased with the efforts put into your work, thank you!

My only request is an option for annual payment, or perhaps even lifetime.

(and you need to charge more)

Thank you!
sr. member
Activity: 350
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Dolphie Selfie
August 13, 2012, 07:31:34 AM
Oh, this is sad, without zooming, this site is now rather useless for me. I don't need any of the other "pay-features", but 0.04 btc/week just for zooming is too much for me, sorry.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1114
WalletScrutiny.com
August 12, 2012, 09:06:39 PM
I find it overpriced. Yes, there are really cool features. The modules are wow but I don't want to use them. I'm not a day trader but just a bitcoin fan. Please put the accumulated volume back in the free version. This feature where I can mark beginning and end on the chart and it sums up the coins sold and bought.

I think you deserve to earn money with this but I hope you get some fair income based on numbers not on a high price.

Anyway. I just payed for a week subscription as I really like this site and wanted to test it out but I doubt that I will stay a regular Sad
hero member
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Catalog Websites
August 12, 2012, 08:20:19 PM
still no sounds?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
August 12, 2012, 08:10:53 PM
Some other ideas:

1) Export/import layout so that if someone has a good one they could easily share.

2) Batch add module (ie all mt gox sales btc/currency pairs)

This is very cool. Especially the order book history.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
August 12, 2012, 07:43:04 PM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay Wink

Well that sucks Sad It was going downhill anyway, back to mtgox live for me!  Grin

Edit: Unless paying removes that obnoxious bar from the top O.o

At the time I said I did not like the new menu system, but now I recognize that for the new functions was necessary and honestly I have no problem paying (which I did) to use this platform.

Altruism is very nice, but btccharts is a very useful tool, very elaborate and that costs time and money to maintain, I think that 0.047bct per week is a more than reasonable price.

I usually used this on my nexus one, and I understand the benefits of the new menu system too. What I don't understand is the lack of a fullscreen option to remove it. (Especially for mobile)
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
August 12, 2012, 07:40:41 PM
bugs, etc:

1)If I click Account at the top it brings up a window with some bad typos:
Title: "Accout opotions"

2) Time since last trade and order text is cut off (eg reads "t 2m 40 sec", o "00s" ). Perhaps this is on purpose.

3) If I have multiple modules open and I wish to then add an archival chart I have no choice of which market this chart should refer to. I think it chooses the market of the most recently added module

4) A sales only module has no title and timeframe cannot be adjusted
- It would be good if these sales modules also showed the price

5) Time range of trades, recent sales, and order book date is somewhat difficult to adjust precisely. It would be good to be able to type in a custom range.

6) tooltips will sometimes go off the screen
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
August 12, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay Wink

Well that sucks Sad It was going downhill anyway, back to mtgox live for me!  Grin

Edit: Unless paying removes that obnoxious bar from the top O.o

At the time I said I did not like the new menu system, but now I recognize that for the new functions was necessary and honestly I have no problem paying (which I did) to use this platform.

Altruism is very nice, but btccharts is a very useful tool, very elaborate and that costs time and money to maintain, I think that 0.047bct per week is a more than reasonable price.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
August 12, 2012, 07:26:03 PM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay Wink

Well that sucks Sad It was going downhill anyway, back to mtgox live for me!  Grin

Edit: Unless paying removes that obnoxious bar from the top O.o
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
August 12, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay Wink
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