Topic: bustabit – The original crash game - page 16. (Read 61162 times)

Hey, good question!

So starting from first principles, the server needs to let the client know these events:

a) The game starting
b) When cash outs happen
c) When the game ends


And let's remember, there is a certain amount of time it takes for the server to communicate with the client (latency).


So the most naive solution is simply to broadcast all the events in real time. That will work fine, but the first issue you'll run into is when there's a network connection the client won't (immediately) realize and it'll look like the multiplier is going super high. When the network connection issues resolve, the user will be disappointed to learn that it didn't really go that high.

So we're going to need to broadcast a "heartbeat" (or game tick). Ideally multiple times per second, so if the client doesn't get the heart-beat it knows immediately something is up.

That's going to work fine now, and we're in business. But each message we send/process incurs overhead, and with a lot of events it's going to cause issues on both the server and client. Bustabit v1 was notorious for this. So there's a whole slew of optimizations we can make.

So let's go through a few that bustabit v2 employs:

A) Sends the client the (auto) cashout of the other players. That way the client can "predict" other players cashing out, and there's no need for the server to say the player cashed out at that point. This way the server only tells clients when a player manually cashed out.

B) Batch cash out events. If people cash out at the same time (or close to it), just send it in a big message.

c) Combine heart-beats with cashout events. If the server sends a cashout event, obviously the network connection is fine. No need for a heartbeat in that time.


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And your question regarding synchronization is a little tricky. So two things to remember: there is always latency between the server and client. It's not possible for the server to tell the client the exact time the game will crash (until it actually crashes) or people would hack the client to easily cheat.

So the client basically has two options. One is to try show the multiplier that is CURRENTLY on the server. The other is to show the multiplier that the player would get if they hit the cashout button. The first solution is better for when you lose (it shows a lot smoother). The second solution is better for when you win (players are a lot less affected by latency. But the multiplier will overshoot the actual crash, i.e. the player will see 1.92x and then see "busted at 1.90x").

So bustabit tries to go more with the first approach. And each heartbeat it tells the client how much time has elapsed, which the client can use to correct its idea of when the game started (i.e. latency is not necessarily constant. It might get better and worse ). You can see how bustabit v1 did this:

https://github.com/kungfuant/webserver/blob/master/client_new/scripts/game-logic/GameEngineStore.js#L192-L195

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Hope that makes sense!

One reason is indeed ensuring that clients stay in sync. While most devices' clocks don't have much drift, we can't expect every device to be accurate, so it's safer to not entirely rely on the client like that.

But I suppose the bigger reason is simplicity and efficiency. Oftentimes there are lots of cash-outs happening simultaneously and broadcasting each of these events individually isn't fast enough, so bustabit broadcasts cash-out events in batches on every tick instead. We could skip the broadcast if there weren't any cash-outs since the last tick, but it's simpler to just broadcast every tick, regardless of whether it contains cash-outs or not.

Finally, the broadcast tick also serves as a kind of heartbeat, allowing the client to assume that the connection has been lost if they haven't received any events from the server in n seconds.

Given the number of users there could be enough tickets to be an annoyance but finding the right people for customer support in the cryptocurrency space is definitely a problem. The kind of people that will do the job well and can also be trusted will get bored quickly and start looking for other opportunities.

It's probably a trust issue and a lack of need. It's definitely hard to find good support people that are knowledgeable about the space (and I'm assuming he doesn't want someone to just read off of a script), and even harder to trust them. If you give too much access, they could theoretically steal lots of money. If you give too little access, you'd end up doing a lot of the work yourself anyway. My guess is that bustabit/bustadice don't end up getting too many support tickets in the first place so it's not a big deal for him to personally handle all of them.

Lol, why though? I mean you must be making good enough profit to hire someone else for helping you out right? I have zero clue how much you make, it is probably easy to calculate based on what people made and lost since the start of the year on the investment page and then calculate your cut on that. However even without doing that, I assumed that you were making good enough profit to hire some people, not even just one person but more like multiple people to help you out, could be about coding, design, support staff and many things like that.

Why do you end up doing all of that all by yourself without getting any help, is it more about trying to protect the website from someone to come in and change something and ruin it? Or maybe some support staff acting unprofessionally and destroy your reputation? If that is the case we all know you already, I doubt we would put it on you when they do a mistake.

Lol, why though? I mean you must be making good enough profit to hire someone else for helping you out right? I have zero clue how much you make, it is probably easy to calculate based on what people made and lost since the start of the year on the investment page and then calculate your cut on that. However even without doing that, I assumed that you were making good enough profit to hire some people, not even just one person but more like multiple people to help you out, could be about coding, design, support staff and many things like that.

Why do you end up doing all of that all by yourself without getting any help, is it more about trying to protect the website from someone to come in and change something and ruin it? Or maybe some support staff acting unprofessionally and destroy your reputation? If that is the case we all know you already, I doubt we would put it on you when they do a mistake.

Yeah, I answer all support requests myself. Generally I respond to all messages within 24 hours. In this case the longest response time to their multiple tickets was 7 hours and 2 minutes, which I think is reasonable.

Do you handle all support ticket on bustabit? Thought there are people who helping you to handle the ticket for faster response to all user who have problem about their account on bustabit (just like guy on above).

I have responded to all support requests submitted more than four hours ago (that's when I last checked my inbox). If you sent me a support request before then you will have received a response from me via email. It's worth checking your spam folder as sometimes messages end up there erroneously.

Can I please withdraw from my account u banned pls

It is working fine for me, tried it and also since it is a "social" game I have seen other people gamble there as well. While we are here and talking about maintenance and improvements, I would like to also ask about the problem we may face with the "slowness" when we use VPN, it has been like that for years and I understand that there is this thing about not playing with VPN which is why it is not a priority and I get that, it is understandable.

But, are we really going to keep treating VPN as some boogeyman forever and make it very impossible to gamble that way (because of huuuuge lag) or is there even a slight bit of hope about it getting improved? I tried all kinds of VPN under the sun (not specifically for this to be fair) on chrome, and even love using my Opera browser with built-in VPN and all of them gives the same result, you click and takes nearly 3 seconds for it to register. No chance for it to get a look?

I never tried that as i always wait until my deposit got confirmed then i start to play.

The site is still down I just tried to in and it didn't work, I dont know if it's my network or any other user experiencing the same thing I know the team announced maintenance is it not done with yet.

Congratulations on your achievement I would need a little clearity on this
How do we know a deposit that wouldn't be precredited and after confirmation would the precredited amount be transferred to the main deposit together with the winnings attached to it so it can be withdrawn

You actually decide after depositing. The way it works is you make a deposit like normal, and then get a notification in bustabit that there's a pending deposit. If you go to the detail page, it shows up as a "pending deposit" and next to that there's a button you can push to have precredited  (and then confirm the fee). At that point the code does a bunch of checks (fee rate, bip125, check unconfirmed parents, checks total site risk, checks if the site has been defrauded before), and if everything is good you get 99% of your money instantly added.