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legendary
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I really really like to use this site for gambling because it has one of the most interesting interface and i have never faced any problem using this site. I am using this site for around 2 months and i have never faced any problems with deposits or withdrawals. The fact that you can chat with other players online makes it very very fascinating and fun.

The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.

Thats really a good news. Looking forward to invest simply because the site seems legit and the owners and developers seem very hardworking.
it is very fun to gamble here. and this looks without any problems at all. whether for deposit or withdrawal. more fun because bustadice has a live chat with the players. considering this site is included in the new gambling site, but bustadice is able to show its capacity as the best dice gambling site
Not only live chat box you see the player in bustadice also in you can see their live betting on each player whether it is lost or win or who is the highest roller at that time you also found them. I never doubt bustadice is a fair game, I like low fees in withdrawal and deposit on their site the only feature is dice gaming.
sr. member
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I really really like to use this site for gambling because it has one of the most interesting interface and i have never faced any problem using this site. I am using this site for around 2 months and i have never faced any problems with deposits or withdrawals. The fact that you can chat with other players online makes it very very fascinating and fun.

The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.

Thats really a good news. Looking forward to invest simply because the site seems legit and the owners and developers seem very hardworking.
it is very fun to gamble here. and this looks without any problems at all. whether for deposit or withdrawal. more fun because bustadice has a live chat with the players. considering this site is included in the new gambling site, but bustadice is able to show its capacity as the best dice gambling site
hero member
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I really really like to use this site for gambling because it has one of the most interesting interface and i have never faced any problem using this site. I am using this site for around 2 months and i have never faced any problems with deposits or withdrawals. The fact that you can chat with other players online makes it very very fascinating and fun.

The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.

Thats really a good news. Looking forward to invest simply because the site seems legit and the owners and developers seem very hardworking.
legendary
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But I just want to read more about the investing into bustadice is there any link for clear explanation. Smiley

Here is a copy/paste from Bustadice FAQ section (https://bustadice.com/faq#investing)  :

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How does investing in the bankroll work?

It's simple: The casino's profits and losses are shared among all investors proportionally to their investment. For example, if you have invested Ƀ 10 and the entire bankroll's size is Ƀ 200, you earn Ƀ 0.05 when a player loses Ƀ 1. This profit increases the value of your stake in the bankroll rather than your account's balance.

In order to operate the site, fund further development and advertising as well as to make a profit, we charge investors a 0.25 % commission on every wager. This commission is deducted from the bankroll on every wager, regardless of whether the player wins or loses.

You can manage your contribution to the bankroll on the investment page.

What is the dilution fee?

To encourage long-term investments, a stable bankroll size and to reward earlier investors, there is a dilution fee of 1 % on all investments. This fee is split proportionally among all bankroll investors, including the new investor. Consequently the effective fee is always lower than 1 %.
How does offsite investing work?

When you participate in the site's bankroll you can choose to only deposit part of your investment, reducing your counterparty risk and allowing you to put your bitcoins to use elsewhere.

To make use of this option, simply adjust the size of your offsite investment on the investment page and you'll participate in the house's profits and losses as if you had deposited the entire amount. We'll keep track of your offsite investment and ensure that you're never risking too much or too little.

A leverage of up to 50:1 is supported, which means that Ƀ 1 invested onsite can support up to Ƀ 49 offsite for a total of Ƀ 50 invested. The dilution fee for your offsite investment is deducted from your onsite investment, so keep that in mind when deciding how much of your investment to keep onsite.

What happens if my onsite investment becomes too small?


If your onsite bankroll becomes too small to support your offsite bankroll, your offsite bankroll is set to 0. You receive a fee credit in the amount of what your offsite bankroll was, so you can reinvest some or all of your offsite coins without having to pay the dilution fee again.

Currently investors are not notified when they are margin-called. For that reason it's a good idea to check on your investment every so often, particularly if you're using a large amount of leverage.


To make it clearer also take a look at investment page : https://bustadice.com/invest
sr. member
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By the way I really don't understand what about this announcement is because I have no idea what is that dilution fee and leverage.I hope someone will explain me about them. Cheesy

I'm assuming your a gambler, in which case it doesn't affect you. Dilution fee and Leverage limits solely affect investors.

Dilution fee is a fee that is charged and distributed to existing investors when you invest, as a "payment" for diluting (making their share smaller). Now that it's been reduced to 1%, if I wanted to invest 1 BTC, I would lose 0.01 BTC instantly.

Leverage allows me to have part of my investment offsite, and pretend that it's invested. It used to be that 50x leverage was allowed, so I could invest 1BTC, and pretend I actually had 50BTC. This increases my risk, as if my investment drops a bit lower than 2%, I get margin called and my investment becomes zero. It also increases my profit though, if players lose. I had a 20x leverage investment since the site launched. I made a ~33% ROI as was heavily leveraged, while an investor investing without leverage would only have made a profit of ~1.8%.
Thanks mate for explaining me about Dilution and leverage.

Yeah I'm still gambler in bustadice now I explored the investment section it says 0.01BTC is the minimum amount to invest and this
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Investment management
The minimum amount that can be invested or divested is Ƀ 0.01. If you attempt to invest or divest more than you can afford, the largest possible value is used instead.
To compensate existing investors for diluting the bankroll, 1 % of your investment is deducted before it is added to the bankroll and distributed among all investors–including yourself–afterwards.
But I just want to read more about the investing into bustadice is there any link for clear explanation. Smiley
legendary
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February 28, 2018, 06:51:23 PM
By the way I really don't understand what about this announcement is because I have no idea what is that dilution fee and leverage.I hope someone will explain me about them. Cheesy

I'm assuming your a gambler, in which case it doesn't affect you. Dilution fee and Leverage limits solely affect investors.

Dilution fee is a fee that is charged and distributed to existing investors when you invest, as a "payment" for diluting (making their share smaller). Now that it's been reduced to 1%, if I wanted to invest 1 BTC, I would lose 0.01 BTC instantly.

Leverage allows me to have part of my investment offsite, and pretend that it's invested. It used to be that 50x leverage was allowed, so I could invest 1BTC, and pretend I actually had 50BTC. This increases my risk, as if my investment drops a bit lower than 2%, I get margin called and my investment becomes zero. It also increases my profit though, if players lose. I had a 20x leverage investment since the site launched. I made a ~33% ROI as was heavily leveraged, while an investor investing without leverage would only have made a profit of ~1.8%.
sr. member
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February 28, 2018, 02:44:00 PM
,can you explain me bro a little bit because I am also interested in participating in this game.

Edit: oopss I am late to that party I saw that the game was already ended so waiting for the another chance from yahoo. Smiley

Should have just head straight to the site and check instead of writting this post though  Undecided
so true. it would be better if you go directly to it and make an account there. and you can directly ask questions to the players. because in bustadice available live chat with the players in bustadice. and it will be more effective if you ask there.
Yeah,I already have account in bustadice since I am the part of bustadice signature campaign,but I always play it myself I never know where is that live chat option. HuhThat is the reason I asked him how to do that.
But lately I realized that the game was already ended so I am waiting for another chance. Smiley

Okay . . . You have an account but dont know where the chat is . . .




Anyway, Enjoy the game. Our beloved Purzi will always be there on the site to greet you guys  Smiley




you can find the chat box in the right side of the betting tab. Shocked

And it is a big box I wonders how you missed that to see it,so next time see it there dude,Good luck.
lol. there it is very clear that the chat city is available on the left side of the screen. have you ever put your funds in bustadice? I seem to have doubts about it. because it seems impossible if you do not find the chat box Grin
Maybe he didn't recognized the chat box because it was located in the lower part of the site. Mate if you are familiar with facebook messenger, they were just the same icon the only difference is their color. Anyway better luck next time and stay tunned to announcement made here for some cool games bustadice has to offer. For the meantime let's enjoy this wonderful betting site.
Yeah,sorry for that.Just now I realized that was there and I missed to see that until now. Cry I am always in a hurry with personal life that is the reason I don't have much time to explore the site,now I have to search what are available in the bustadice. Grin
yes that's what you should do, pay attention around and care what you should know. so you do not look like a careless person. and for that start you try to gamble in bustadice so you can feel the pleasant sensation there  Grin
That's make the thing put you in a danger if you are always in hurry,  Grin Grin
Btw bustadice live chat box are having an active members their you ask any time or admins deniel and to my friend Purzi they are always be there to answer regarding with your problem so, there's no reason behind that you look like a careless person. Before you can't chat the chat box if you don't have a balance but now they make open for everything.
See you there bro. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Yeah we don't have to gamble while in a hurry then the chance of losing is more but Now I am watching that the chat box but still don't have enough time to get into the conversation,I am also hoping that see you all there soon.
I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.
By the way I really don't understand what about this announcement is because I have no idea what is that dilution fee and leverage.I hope someone will explain me about them. Cheesy
legendary
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February 28, 2018, 09:26:52 AM
,can you explain me bro a little bit because I am also interested in participating in this game.

Edit: oopss I am late to that party I saw that the game was already ended so waiting for the another chance from yahoo. Smiley

Should have just head straight to the site and check instead of writting this post though  Undecided
so true. it would be better if you go directly to it and make an account there. and you can directly ask questions to the players. because in bustadice available live chat with the players in bustadice. and it will be more effective if you ask there.
Yeah,I already have account in bustadice since I am the part of bustadice signature campaign,but I always play it myself I never know where is that live chat option. HuhThat is the reason I asked him how to do that.
But lately I realized that the game was already ended so I am waiting for another chance. Smiley

Okay . . . You have an account but dont know where the chat is . . .




Anyway, Enjoy the game. Our beloved Purzi will always be there on the site to greet you guys  Smiley




you can find the chat box in the right side of the betting tab. Shocked

And it is a big box I wonders how you missed that to see it,so next time see it there dude,Good luck.
lol. there it is very clear that the chat city is available on the left side of the screen. have you ever put your funds in bustadice? I seem to have doubts about it. because it seems impossible if you do not find the chat box Grin
Maybe he didn't recognized the chat box because it was located in the lower part of the site. Mate if you are familiar with facebook messenger, they were just the same icon the only difference is their color. Anyway better luck next time and stay tunned to announcement made here for some cool games bustadice has to offer. For the meantime let's enjoy this wonderful betting site.
Yeah,sorry for that.Just now I realized that was there and I missed to see that until now. Cry I am always in a hurry with personal life that is the reason I don't have much time to explore the site,now I have to search what are available in the bustadice. Grin
yes that's what you should do, pay attention around and care what you should know. so you do not look like a careless person. and for that start you try to gamble in bustadice so you can feel the pleasant sensation there  Grin
That's make the thing put you in a danger if you are always in hurry,  Grin Grin
Btw bustadice live chat box are having an active members their you ask any time or admins deniel and to my friend Purzi they are always be there to answer regarding with your problem so, there's no reason behind that you look like a careless person. Before you can't chat the chat box if you don't have a balance but now they make open for everything.
See you there bro. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
sr. member
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February 28, 2018, 07:01:11 AM
,can you explain me bro a little bit because I am also interested in participating in this game.

Edit: oopss I am late to that party I saw that the game was already ended so waiting for the another chance from yahoo. Smiley

Should have just head straight to the site and check instead of writting this post though  Undecided
so true. it would be better if you go directly to it and make an account there. and you can directly ask questions to the players. because in bustadice available live chat with the players in bustadice. and it will be more effective if you ask there.
Yeah,I already have account in bustadice since I am the part of bustadice signature campaign,but I always play it myself I never know where is that live chat option. HuhThat is the reason I asked him how to do that.
But lately I realized that the game was already ended so I am waiting for another chance. Smiley

Okay . . . You have an account but dont know where the chat is . . .




Anyway, Enjoy the game. Our beloved Purzi will always be there on the site to greet you guys  Smiley




you can find the chat box in the right side of the betting tab. Shocked

And it is a big box I wonders how you missed that to see it,so next time see it there dude,Good luck.
lol. there it is very clear that the chat city is available on the left side of the screen. have you ever put your funds in bustadice? I seem to have doubts about it. because it seems impossible if you do not find the chat box Grin
Maybe he didn't recognized the chat box because it was located in the lower part of the site. Mate if you are familiar with facebook messenger, they were just the same icon the only difference is their color. Anyway better luck next time and stay tunned to announcement made here for some cool games bustadice has to offer. For the meantime let's enjoy this wonderful betting site.
Yeah,sorry for that.Just now I realized that was there and I missed to see that until now. Cry I am always in a hurry with personal life that is the reason I don't have much time to explore the site,now I have to search what are available in the bustadice. Grin
yes that's what you should do, pay attention around and care what you should know. so you do not look like a careless person. and for that start you try to gamble in bustadice so you can feel the pleasant sensation there  Grin
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legendary
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February 28, 2018, 05:57:31 AM
I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.


How much leverage did you use? My 0.1BTC onsite + 1.9BTC offsite didn't bust, and that's a 20x leverage.

I went all in and did the max 50x leverage. I figured I needed to be that aggressive to make back the 10% dilution fee. I knew it was a very risky investment so I only put 0.01 in, more for fun than anything else.


Good luck
sr. member
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February 28, 2018, 05:31:31 AM
You may have messed up lowering in the max leverage, unless it's for new investments only. My 0.1BTC onsite + 1.9BTC offsite stayed the way it was, before I manually lowered the leverage.

My bad, I should have clarified that in the announcement. Existing investments that are already using more leverage than 3:1 are not affected until they are modified.
hero member
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February 28, 2018, 04:32:46 AM
I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.


How much leverage did you use? My 0.1BTC onsite + 1.9BTC offsite didn't bust, and that's a 20x leverage.

I went all in and did the max 50x leverage. I figured I needed to be that aggressive to make back the 10% dilution fee. I knew it was a very risky investment so I only put 0.01 in, more for fun than anything else.
legendary
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February 27, 2018, 07:24:46 PM
I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.


How much leverage did you use? My 0.1BTC onsite + 1.9BTC offsite didn't bust, and that's a 20x leverage.

  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

You may have messed up lowering in the max leverage, unless it's for new investments only. My 0.1BTC onsite + 1.9BTC offsite stayed the way it was, before I manually lowered the leverage.
hero member
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February 27, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Do you have stats on average return on investment solely for dilution fees based on the time of investment?

Wouldn't it be zero? For every dilution fee that was paid by an investor, an equal amount was received by investors. So the sum is zero, and so the average is zero.

At least it would have been if Daniel didn't just refund people out of his own pocket.

It's.....been a long day. You're totally right. I should stop staring at so many numbers...
hero member
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February 27, 2018, 04:50:28 PM
wow, the popularity of bustadice getting great, congratulations
@dev @yahoo I hope to be able to join the bustadice team again,  Grin Grin


I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.

every investment has the advantage and risk of loss. Do not ever invest if you can not afford to lose it. do not babble about your fucked investment

I was previously a member of the bustadice signature campaign team, until I was finally removed because of negrep. and today I am investing in bustadice
I never say anything about my investment that has come in, because there is time for us to make a profit
Yeah,bustadice is getting too much attention around the forum and I hope more new players will come and join in bustadice in future.At the moment the campaign is full but in future there maybe slots open so you can apply so wait for the chance,and I hope bustadice signature campaign also will be a long running campaign like other gambling signature campaigns.
almost the same as fortunejack.com or even bustadic has gotten attention beyond the fortunejack ,, even after some problems occur in fortunejack it seems now bustadice has exceeded its popularity ,,
At the moment the campaign is full but in future there maybe slots open so you can apply so wait for the chance,and I hope bustadice signature campaign also will be a long running campaign like other gambling signature campaigns.
I think the current members are of sufficient quality, and the campaign may be open when someone left the campaign or kick
sr. member
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February 27, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
wow, the popularity of bustadice getting great, congratulations
@dev @yahoo I hope to be able to join the bustadice team again,  Grin Grin


I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.

every investment has the advantage and risk of loss. Do not ever invest if you can not afford to lose it. do not babble about your fucked investment

I was previously a member of the bustadice signature campaign team, until I was finally removed because of negrep. and today I am investing in bustadice
I never say anything about my investment that has come in, because there is time for us to make a profit
Yeah,bustadice is getting too much attention around the forum and I hope more new players will come and join in bustadice in future.At the moment the campaign is full but in future there maybe slots open so you can apply so wait for the chance,and I hope bustadice signature campaign also will be a long running campaign like other gambling signature campaigns.
hero member
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February 27, 2018, 12:50:06 PM
wow, the popularity of bustadice getting great, congratulations
@dev @yahoo I hope to be able to join the bustadice team again,  Grin Grin


I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.

every investment has the advantage and risk of loss. Do not ever invest if you can not afford to lose it. do not babble about your fucked investment

I was previously a member of the bustadice signature campaign team, until I was finally removed because of negrep. and today I am investing in bustadice
I never say anything about my investment that has come in, because there is time for us to make a profit
hero member
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February 27, 2018, 06:05:35 AM
I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

Cheers Daniel. My tiny investment got busted out early on and now have some bits to gamble with.
sr. member
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February 27, 2018, 04:20:31 AM
That's good news. Do you have stats on average return on investment solely for dilution fees based on the time of investment?

dooglus is correct. The dilution fee is a zero-sum game where the investors' profit as a whole remains the same.


My inner jew would almost rather kill itself than pay any type of dilution fee...

I almost invested early on because I found the site like literally the day after the ICO or whatever it was... it was going to cost a nice chunk just to invest and then not be able to pull out as I recall...

Pass.

As an investor can divest partially or entirely at any time without cost. If you later decide to reinvest, you will be charged the dilution fee again, however.
legendary
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February 27, 2018, 03:37:09 AM
I've just deployed an update that makes a few changes:
  • The dilution fee has been lowered from 10 % to 1 %. Investors that have paid more in dilution fees than they have gained have been refunded the difference in fee rate.
  • The maximum leverage has been lowered to 3:1.

My inner jew would almost rather kill itself than pay any type of dilution fee...

I almost invested early on because I found the site like literally the day after the ICO or whatever it was... it was going to cost a nice chunk just to invest and then not be able to pull out as I recall...

Pass.
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