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legendary
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August 03, 2013, 12:20:57 AM
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I guess no one seems to wonder how a company can issue refunds of thousands of dollars of pre-order merchandise and Paypal never balks at it?

See, Yajaira D Guevara, this is why you're so pathetic.  You make statements like this.  Who says we issue refunds of thousands of dollars?  Your warped little mind?  We get very little refund requests in the grand scheme of things.  I know you desperately want it to be true that people are asking for refunds in droves, but it's simply not the case.  This is why I know a large majority of the whiny brats that cry about BFL still maintain their pre-orders.  Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you had a stealth order yourself, just like Frizz, but until there's evidence of that, I'll give you props for being one of the few trolls who actually doesn't have a pre-order.

You just go on advocating fraud there, Yajaira.  You are a real stand up guy!  Not only a liar, but a thief and fraudster as well, GG!


I've just realized that I'm not the only person Josh Zerlan has called a liar and thief and fraudster. If I recall, he's even stated such about a handful other bitcoiners.

This boy ain't right!
hero member
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April 23, 2013, 02:23:44 AM
Looks like they moved the goalpost to their trophy room.



Meanwhile, BFL is accepting applications:




Thanks for that 2nd pic.  Now I can't eat or sleep.  Undecided
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:08:19 AM
Looks like they moved the goalpost to their trophy room.



Meanwhile, BFL is accepting applications:

legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 22, 2013, 11:19:21 PM
EDIT:
I don't know if this "Codinginmysleep" guy did place one of the very first pre-orders nearly a year ago, but shipping usually starts with the orders being filled in the same order they were originally placed. Thus I'm not yet changing my signature about BFL's shipping problems.

Your sig is not "about BFL's shipping problems". It says outright that it's a scam and that no ASICs have been shipped, and yet at least one ASIC has been shipped.

As expected, you and the other anti-BFL are shifting the goalposts to make sure BFL is still in the wrong.

Nodoby in this thread has to move the goalposts. BFL already missed 12 field goals.
There are 490,000 Avalon fans rushing the field.

I am sure they have things in hand.  Shocked
full member
Activity: 196
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April 22, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
EDIT:
I don't know if this "Codinginmysleep" guy did place one of the very first pre-orders nearly a year ago, but shipping usually starts with the orders being filled in the same order they were originally placed. Thus I'm not yet changing my signature about BFL's shipping problems.

Your sig is not "about BFL's shipping problems". It says outright that it's a scam and that no ASICs have been shipped, and yet at least one ASIC has been shipped.

As expected, you and the other anti-BFL are shifting the goalposts to make sure BFL is still in the wrong.
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 22, 2013, 04:44:45 PM

You see guys this is all a grand scheme lol

It's a common saying.  What are you, 5?

BFL took that saying and made it to a literary one.
sr. member
Activity: 348
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April 22, 2013, 02:38:43 PM

You see guys this is all a grand scheme lol

It's a common saying.  What are you, 5?
full member
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One bitcoin to rule them all!
April 22, 2013, 09:12:09 AM
We still didn't see inside of the product case and a thermal imaging, it should be fair to display.  Huh

Yeah, my problem would have been that I have so many thermal cameras that I can hardly find any of my regular ones.
full member
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April 22, 2013, 09:08:56 AM
We still didn't see inside of the product case and a thermal imaging, it should be fair to display.  Huh
full member
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April 22, 2013, 04:57:41 AM
#99
Maybe its irrelevant, but I wonder what holds the unit from falling off its "origami" socket if box is turned upside down? There is about inch of space above the unit seen during unpackaging.
Looks quite different from the packaging I've seen before. Looks like a part of packaging is missing.

Now that you mention it - I also thought it was funny that there was no more protection on top. I don't think the unit will come loose, but it could be crushed by other parcels/handling etc.

I think the unit would be a lot safer if it was inside a cardboard "frame" that were in turn placed in a slightly larger hole in that origami-part.
hero member
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April 22, 2013, 04:34:24 AM
#98
Maybe its irrelevant, but I wonder what holds the unit from falling off its "origami" socket if box is turned upside down? There is about inch of space above the unit seen during unpackaging.
Looks quite different from the packaging I've seen before. Looks like a part of packaging is missing.
full member
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April 21, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
#97
Does anyone find this suspicious that the video is uploaded on saturday? If I were to do a "unboxing", I would be doing it on the day I got it. Also, I find it very strange that BFL is sending this without an announcement. It leads me to believe that BFL specifically selected him to the "unboxing".

edit: fedex does indeed ship on Saturday.

He clearly states in the video that he was specifically selected for early/special shipment.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
April 21, 2013, 09:46:38 PM
#96


Avalon is shipping batch 2.
In real business. inventory is sized according to predicted interest in the market. I am sure Avalon presumed that BFL would also be shipping product by now, so they thought they would be sharing the ASIC market. Had they known the actual state of BFL's engineering, I am sure they could have reacted appropriately and captured that market share by increasing the size of their first batch.
Lying about their progress was certainly in BFL's interest, and they are not the only company to spread FUD in a market place to discourage entry by other parties.

I don't agree with your assessment, simply because Avalon would not be getting orders for 490,000 ASIC's if people didn't have demand for their products. If they announced batch#4 I bet it would sell out fast.



Perhaps I communicated it badly. I was trying to express the point that Avalon could have anticipated this demand earlier if they had a better understanding of the true state of things in the ASIC market. Thus that 490,000 chip order might possibly have taken place in February or March instead of late April.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
April 21, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
#95
The only thing Josh demonstrates here is that BFL sees the customer as a piece of shit. A customer has to pay money and shut up. For me the Single SC was my first and my last deal with BFL. Well, at the moment there is no deal - I paid money to BFL to watch Avalon and ASICMINER shipping ASIC miners to their customers.

Some asshats are bashing BFL for months. Josh gave them what they deserved. I never had problems with customer support at BFL. They came back to me within 10 minutes all the time.

What if you pre-ordered a MiniRig?   Don't you think they could of been a bit more truthful with their expectations and let someone who ponied up $30k in on the DOA status of it?

If they took a few humble pills there would be much less attacks on them

That and if there wasn't so much BFL PR spam, Avalon might have done larger batche sizes and then everyone could have ASICs by now. Wink
More than 3 months later, Avalon have shipped how many?
300?
(probably less - there were still people asking for their Batch #1 orders not long ago)
Reality please ...

Avalon is shipping batch 2.
...
Who has one?
erk
hero member
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April 21, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
#94


Avalon is shipping batch 2.
In real business. inventory is sized according to predicted interest in the market. I am sure Avalon presumed that BFL would also be shipping product by now, so they thought they would be sharing the ASIC market. Had they known the actual state of BFL's engineering, I am sure they could have reacted appropriately and captured that market share by increasing the size of their first batch.
Lying about their progress was certainly in BFL's interest, and they are not the only company to spread FUD in a market place to discourage entry by other parties.

I don't agree with your assessment, simply because Avalon would not be getting orders for 490,000 ASIC's if people didn't have demand for their products. If they announced batch#4 I bet it would sell out fast.

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
April 21, 2013, 09:27:30 PM
#93
The only thing Josh demonstrates here is that BFL sees the customer as a piece of shit. A customer has to pay money and shut up. For me the Single SC was my first and my last deal with BFL. Well, at the moment there is no deal - I paid money to BFL to watch Avalon and ASICMINER shipping ASIC miners to their customers.

Some asshats are bashing BFL for months. Josh gave them what they deserved. I never had problems with customer support at BFL. They came back to me within 10 minutes all the time.

What if you pre-ordered a MiniRig?   Don't you think they could of been a bit more truthful with their expectations and let someone who ponied up $30k in on the DOA status of it?

If they took a few humble pills there would be much less attacks on them

That and if there wasn't so much BFL PR spam, Avalon might have done larger batche sizes and then everyone could have ASICs by now. Wink
More than 3 months later, Avalon have shipped how many?
300?
(probably less - there were still people asking for their Batch #1 orders not long ago)
Reality please ...

Avalon is shipping batch 2.
In real business. inventory is sized according to predicted interest in the market. I am sure Avalon presumed that BFL would also be shipping product by now, so they thought they would be sharing the ASIC market. Had they known the actual state of BFL's engineering, I am sure they could have reacted appropriately and captured that market share by increasing the size of their first batch.
Lying about their progress was certainly in BFL's interest, and they are not the only company to spread FUD in a market place to discourage entry by other parties.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
April 21, 2013, 09:25:02 PM
#92
Wish I could get my hands on one of these, I really don't know what to do with BTC mining. I don't want to go down the GPU route, and Avalon seem expensive.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
April 21, 2013, 09:21:46 PM
#91
The only thing Josh demonstrates here is that BFL sees the customer as a piece of shit. A customer has to pay money and shut up. For me the Single SC was my first and my last deal with BFL. Well, at the moment there is no deal - I paid money to BFL to watch Avalon and ASICMINER shipping ASIC miners to their customers.

Some asshats are bashing BFL for months. Josh gave them what they deserved. I never had problems with customer support at BFL. They came back to me within 10 minutes all the time.

What if you pre-ordered a MiniRig?   Don't you think they could of been a bit more truthful with their expectations and let someone who ponied up $30k in on the DOA status of it?

If they took a few humble pills there would be much less attacks on them

That and if there wasn't so much BFL PR spam, Avalon might have done larger batche sizes and then everyone could have ASICs by now. Wink
More than 3 months later, Avalon have shipped how many?
300?
(probably less - there were still people asking for their Batch #1 orders not long ago)
Reality please ...
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
April 21, 2013, 09:17:08 PM
#90
Am I the only one who wants to see the new single case?

Me too.

Personally, I'm just hoping that the single actually start shipping around the time the jallys do... because it's starting to feel like ordering larger units was a mistake.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
April 21, 2013, 08:40:41 PM
#89
The only thing Josh demonstrates here is that BFL sees the customer as a piece of shit. A customer has to pay money and shut up. For me the Single SC was my first and my last deal with BFL. Well, at the moment there is no deal - I paid money to BFL to watch Avalon and ASICMINER shipping ASIC miners to their customers.

Some asshats are bashing BFL for months. Josh gave them what they deserved. I never had problems with customer support at BFL. They came back to me within 10 minutes all the time.

What if you pre-ordered a MiniRig?   Don't you think they could of been a bit more truthful with their expectations and let someone who ponied up $30k in on the DOA status of it?

If they took a few humble pills there would be much less attacks on them

That and if there wasn't so much BFL PR spam, Avalon might have done larger batche sizes and then everyone could have ASICs by now. Wink
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