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Quote from: Inaba on May 01, 2013, 04:27:36 PM

Account server is overloaded at the moment. I would wait awhile before trying again... you have plenty of time, it's not like your orders will be canceled today or anything.

Ironically, supposedly the server was overloaded due to all the people wanting to make sure their orders weren't canceled. Today, even more people visit their site demanding just the opposite, yet the server is working just fine.

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Quote from: Cluster2k on May 02, 2013, 08:14:19 PM

Anyone know which order number BFL is up to in terms of shipping? I recall reading that the earliest order numbers from June 2012 are somewhere in the 2000 range. I can understand BFL being cagey about not telling how many they've shipped (for fear of tipping off the competition as to their production capacity and competency), but I would expect end customers to spill the beans once they've got theirs.

I think they started at 1558 --- but are only shipping 5 GH miner -- so could be above 2000 by now

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Anyone know which order number BFL is up to in terms of shipping? I recall reading that the earliest order numbers from June 2012 are somewhere in the 2000 range. I can understand BFL being cagey about not telling how many they've shipped (for fear of tipping off the competition as to their production capacity and competency), but I would expect end customers to spill the beans once they've got theirs.

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Quote from: k9quaint on May 02, 2013, 07:57:37 PM

Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 07:54:20 PM

Quote from: k9quaint on May 02, 2013, 03:10:57 PM

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Quote from: jspielberg on May 02, 2013, 02:11:46 PM

But BFL themselves said that they are using the same single sc board for the 5, 25 and 50 models.

Where. Last i heard they have new board revisions coming in.

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. They have new boards coming in, and still might use the same boards for all 3.

That's not what he said. He said they are using the same. That's a declarative statement. Mine was purposefully vague, as are the details.

The bolded statement is correct. I can produce a quote from Josh.
What BFL is *actually* doing is irrelevant and impossible to know until after they ship in bulk.

How is it correct, when they haven't shipped the 25 or 50, or actually said this in a statement? They have said they are getting new boards in which is the info i gave.

Thats why i asked wehre they said that, if im wrong i wanted to see where.

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Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 07:54:20 PM

Quote from: k9quaint on May 02, 2013, 03:10:57 PM

Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 02:48:17 PM

Quote from: jspielberg on May 02, 2013, 02:11:46 PM

But BFL themselves said that they are using the same single sc board for the 5, 25 and 50 models.

Where. Last i heard they have new board revisions coming in.

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. They have new boards coming in, and still might use the same boards for all 3.

That's not what he said. He said they are using the same. That's a declarative statement. Mine was purposefully vague, as are the details.

The bolded statement is correct. I can produce a quote from Josh.
What BFL is *actually* doing is irrelevant and impossible to know until after they ship in bulk.

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Quote from: k9quaint on May 02, 2013, 03:10:57 PM

Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 02:48:17 PM

Quote from: jspielberg on May 02, 2013, 02:11:46 PM

But BFL themselves said that they are using the same single sc board for the 5, 25 and 50 models.

Where. Last i heard they have new board revisions coming in.

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. They have new boards coming in, and still might use the same boards for all 3.

That's not what he said. He said they are using the same. That's a declarative statement. Mine was purposefully vague, as are the details.

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Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 02:47:09 PM

I see a coffee mug and a case with fans and heatsinks on a white table. Maybe you should get that checked out by a psychiatrist with some Rorschach tests.

The coffee mug doesn't even have coffee in it!!

Not a good sign.

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Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 02:48:17 PM

Quote from: jspielberg on May 02, 2013, 02:11:46 PM

But BFL themselves said that they are using the same single sc board for the 5, 25 and 50 models.

Where. Last i heard they have new board revisions coming in.

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. They have new boards coming in, and still might use the same boards for all 3.

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Quote from: jspielberg on May 02, 2013, 02:11:46 PM

But BFL themselves said that they are using the same single sc board for the 5, 25 and 50 models.

Where. Last i heard they have new board revisions coming in.

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I see a coffee mug and a case with fans and heatsinks on a white table. Maybe you should get that checked out by a psychiatrist with some Rorschach tests.

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Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:32:04 PM

At least something interesting came from that email. New pic of single--->>

All I see is a carrot on the end of a stick that they keep touting to get you to not request a refund.

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The extrapolation is a valid approximation.

If they were using a significantly different board between the the microsingle 5Gh/s unit and the 25Gh/s unit, then all bets would be off... But BFL themselves said that they are using the same single sc board for the 5, 25 and 50 models.

Soooo... ~300 watts is accurate for the 60, and I would surmise that BFL would do some kind of testing (once they get the 25 and 50 running) to ascertain if they need a new case and heatsink/fan arrangement is adequate. If it isn't, they will redesign it until it is adequate. One thing about BFL seems certain that they aren't going to ship a product that isn't perfect.

Unfortunately perfect takes time.... lots of time.

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Quote from: repentance on May 01, 2013, 08:03:22 PM

Quote from: erk on May 01, 2013, 07:43:37 PM

The mining hardware doesn't directly connect to the electrical supply, the power pack does, so it is the item that has to be certified, and you could simple go to the shop an buy one locally that is certified if necessary for insurance or whatever.

My laptop (Toshiba, made in China) doesn't connect directly to the power supply, either, but it still has the relevant Australian certification mark (the power supply - which obviously ships to more countries - has about 15 certification marks on it for various countries).

Even my solar powered Christmas lights and my aquarium pump which draws a whole 7 watts have the power specifications stamped on them. My digital camera and it's charger and my mobile phone and its charger also have compliance marks on them. In fact, I can't find a single thing in my house which connects to the electrical supply even indirectly which doesn't have the power specifications stamped on it - which makes me very inclined to believe that it's a requirement of the Australian standard.

Your laptop puts off intentional and unintentional radiation. It has a screen, and it has a wireless card. Both of which make it a COMPLETELY different animal from a mere peripheral, which the Jalapeno is...

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Quote from: Red_Evil on May 02, 2013, 02:01:12 PM

http://i.imm.io/14JwH.png

Haha and now ?
Looks like ?

So both will be manufactured, equally, slowly.

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Haha and now ?
Looks like ?

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Quote from: mitak64 on May 02, 2013, 11:56:24 AM

It's not extrapolation, just simple facts and some math.
A 5GH/s Jala is ~30 watts (measured with a Kill-A-Watt).
The box contains 2x25GH/s little singles (obviously).
So 50GH/s = 300 watts

you're assuming that there's a linear extrapolation here... interesting...

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Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 01:37:10 PM

And what are the implications of that? Or are you just making an observation?

It was a reference to the post from Frizz23 "Mother of god! How is this little thing supposed to dissipate 300 Watt of heat?" - and your reply to that.

I was merely pointing out that his extrapolation about the heatsinks, who were probably based on direct comparison of the two pictures that are scaled differently, making the card look almost as big as the single.
IOW- There is really no reason to believe that the heatsinks are not up to the job.

Ahh.. The joy of using my second language. Tongue

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Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 01:37:10 PM

And what are the implications of that? Or are you just making an observation?

The implication is obvious. Those heat sinks may in fact be able to dissipate 300W.

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And what are the implications of that? Or are you just making an observation?

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Quote from: minternj on May 02, 2013, 01:21:11 PM

Quote from: Malawi on May 02, 2013, 01:09:46 PM

Not to mention that a tripple-slot board is about half the height of a classic coffee-mug.

Why should that be mentioned? Missing your jist my man.

It means that the heatsinks at the singles are probably more or less twice as big as they might look like.

My guess is that they are both about the same size as the heatsink of my 9550's that draw 200W

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