If they cannot deliver by some date we choose, then we have the right to request a refund in mass.
Why not just request a refund now if you are tired of waiting? They apparently honor all refund requests.
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Why not just request a refund now if you are tired of waiting? They apparently honor all refund requests.
Jalaps seem to mature, but it seems there are issues with the other 2 SC ASIC miners.
Actually with 3 - 25G, 50G and 1.5 TH.
I still wonder how minirig will look like
BFL is real. I live about 20 mins away fromm their lab. Ive been there and saw all the different systems they are selling. Yes they did have a few of each up and hashing, not at full power because owner said the were still working on heat issues and software stabilizing. but all in all I believe them because I saw them with my own eyes, they gave me and my buddy a tour of the entire place. Its legit, slow, but legit.
You wouldn't be the one on reddit who just walked in and got an impromptu tour would you?
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Look up the meaning of ponzi scheme. No really look it up. You need to actually read it and understand it. Then pick your date. I can't make it any more clear.
If they have a working product and are able to deliver all of said product to the consumers who have ordered it while maintaining a profit, then by definition they are not a ponzi scheme. I strongly suggest you look up what a ponzi scheme is before attacking me.
If they cannot deliver by some date we choose, then we have the right to request a refund in mass. If BFL cannot refund our money and have no product, then yes they are a ponzi scheme. Then I and my lawyers will call for a both an investigation by the government and also a class action lawsuit. The management will return to prison and we will address the ASIC issue in a more transparent and open way.
They tweeted that they have shipped the first products to early customers.
Let's see if its true.
Let's see if its true.
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Where they can make/delete/change password of users... Are you kidding? And you believe on their forum, built ad-hoc to fool you?
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according to the Blog entry from BFL_Jody, they shipped a couple customer units and some more developer units over the last 2 days...
and the link is their forum? https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/136-shipping-update.html#commentsWhere they can make/delete/change password of users... Are you kidding? And you believe on their forum, built ad-hoc to fool you?
if you're so deadset in your belief that BFL is a scam, then no evidence anybody presents is going to convince you otherwise.
Also, I didn't say I believed they were shipping, I said "according to...". I made no claim of belief either way.
Thats great millions of pre-sales and all they can put out is jala's. Sounds like progress. You do know that the Josh has a mining pool. I hope he's not using the excuse of not having enough chips to build units to further his profit at bitcoin prices today.
Maybe even use the machines to mine on? The rigs atleast.
Nah! Josh has never lied before.
Its not a scam. They've started shipping. And even prior they had already sent dev boards to developers. As the post above mine says, just a poorly run company. Im sure they've learned some valuable lessons though, as well as all those that made preorders.
There's videos of functioning hardware. Not a scam, just a poorly-run company. ;P
I bet is a scam.....Only a scam...never they will ship...never
Most elaborate scam ever if it were a scam. Amazing how there are now third party reviewers making videos of the hardware units actually working. Are they in on it as well?
Ridiculous. There's no scam here. You can get a refund for your order at any time if you aren't willing to wait it out.
Ridiculous. There's no scam here. You can get a refund for your order at any time if you aren't willing to wait it out.
I say I'm withholding a definitive stance until either a) we start to see people posting their pics and vids (besides BFL-stroking reviewers who receive free units) or b) i receive my 2 Jalapenos.
I'm optimistically hopeful.
I'm optimistically hopeful.
Now that the first devices have shipped, what dou say?
So you said
Where they can make/delete/change password of users... Are you kidding? And you believe on their forum, built ad-hoc to fool you?
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according to the Blog entry from BFL_Jody, they shipped a couple customer units and some more developer units over the last 2 days...
and the link is their forum? https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/136-shipping-update.html#commentsWhere they can make/delete/change password of users... Are you kidding? And you believe on their forum, built ad-hoc to fool you?
if you're so deadset in your belief that BFL is a scam, then no evidence anybody presents is going to convince you otherwise.
Also, I didn't say I believed they were shipping, I said "according to...". I made no claim of belief either way.
So you said
Where they can make/delete/change password of users... Are you kidding? And you believe on their forum, built ad-hoc to fool you?
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according to the Blog entry from BFL_Jody, they shipped a couple customer units and some more developer units over the last 2 days...
and the link is their forum? https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/136-shipping-update.html#commentsWhere they can make/delete/change password of users... Are you kidding? And you believe on their forum, built ad-hoc to fool you?
Ok let's actually solve this problem then. Let's pick a date and if BFL has not shipped by then, we agree to start a list for a class action lawsuit for fraud.
Look up the meaning of ponzi scheme. No really look it up. You need to actually read it and understand it. Then pick your date. I can't make it any more clear.
What a load of crap here, a fool that was licking that bASIC guy's ass for months, so he choose the wrong horse, same conversion bullshit as for months but not talking/crying for bitcoin when the bitcoin was $3 now, class action haha. That's like the weaker guy shouting "hold me hold me" before I attack the big guy.
Go get a refund, anyone that wants one gets it, be the man or stop pretending to be What's your next option, wait for another chance for an avalon? I was lucky for 4x batch 2, so what will you do, wait, or wait&hope to be lucky?
Go get a refund, anyone that wants one gets it, be the man or stop pretending to be What's your next option, wait for another chance for an avalon? I was lucky for 4x batch 2, so what will you do, wait, or wait&hope to be lucky?
Im an FPGA miner and I am sticking to it until I see that ASIC become mainstream. There is just a lot of hot air with ASICs atm.
What a load of crap here, a fool that was licking that bASIC guy's ass for months, so he choose the wrong horse, same conversion bullshit as for months but not talking/crying for bitcoin when the bitcoin was $3 now, class action haha. That's like the weaker guy shouting "hold me hold me" before I attack the big guy.
Go get a refund, anyone that wants one gets it, be the man or stop pretending to be What's your next option, wait for another chance for an avalon? I was lucky for 4x batch 2, so what will you do, wait, or wait&hope to be lucky?
Go get a refund, anyone that wants one gets it, be the man or stop pretending to be What's your next option, wait for another chance for an avalon? I was lucky for 4x batch 2, so what will you do, wait, or wait&hope to be lucky?
Jalaps seem to mature, but it seems there are issues with the other 2 SC ASIC miners.
Will they ever ship them all?
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