Topic: Buy the DIP, and HODL! - page 136. (Read 122118 times)

You're right here. Sometimes i jump into here to continue conversations with my good forks regarding my investment, but i don't get to feel the connection anymore just like i did previously. I dont know if it is just me but i hardly come here because the conversations and dialogue seem to be going in a different direction which is unlike what i need to knw.

Jay~ can attest to this, Buy the dip and HODL! should be the name of this thread. Many persons with good and interesting replies have left this thread because it seems there is nothing interesting to talk about here. @Windfury I respect your decision to change the topic of the thread, but i think it was quick and we didn't see it coming. What more can I say if not to plead you should do the needful? Thank you in advance.

Focusing on bitcoin discussion there is no crypto discussion it is in another thread, we know beginners if we often say crypto they will choose other coins instead of bitcoin but here we learn a lot about interesting discussions even I always read and see how other people's strategies.

Even if I hold bitcoin for the next 20 years, I will not hesitate because it is clear that the potential of bitcoin is greater than other shitcoins, sorry to talk about crypto but this time I know bitcoin as a good investment for the future and will continue to accumulate it.

I think the title change is not an issue. Because there meaning is the same. One can easily guess from the title what topic is being discussed here. The one you changed and the current tile both are good. So there seems to be no dispute about our title. There has been and continues to be a huge debate about what benefits we can get from buying and holding Bitcoin for the long term and why we should hold Bitcoin. But the current title is so well known in the forum that JJG's contribution comes first when you look there. Everyone knows in the forum JJG's importance in Bitcoin holdings. I think if a forum has a better title and topic it would be this one. After all whatever purpose we hold Bitcoin, if we can hold it for the long term, it will definitely go towards fulfilling that dream.

Hopefully, neither I nor anyone else in this thread is talking about some kind of vague phenomena, such as "crypto," since without some kind of a more specific reference, I don't even know what that is, unless there is some kind of a reference.. so frequently, I am going to suggest to use the word bitcoin if that is what you are talking about.  Is there any need to use the term "crypto" if you are trying to refer to something related to bitcoin, unless you are trying to cause confusion, misleading people with vagueness, or just talking gobble-dee-gook, and there is no need to try to sound smart by using some term that supposedly captures some kind of a broader phenomena, when there is no such thing that exists.. yeah, people use such nonsense terms like crypto and maybe they are even smart people, but do we know what they are talking about and wouldn't it be better if they were to specify about what they were talking about and how that might relate to bitcoin or even within this thread to relate to the topic of this thread, which is bitcoin.

So, yeah there may well be things that are going on in the shitcoin space that might cause us to want to be aware of various shitcoins, yet hopefully we are mostly focusing on bitcoin in terms of our use of various long term investment and accumulation strategies.. since in the shitcoin space (which might be what you are referring to when you use the term "crypto"?).. .may well have some other considerations, and it may be a lot more difficult to justify long term HODLing and/or accumulation techniques when it comes to shitcoins, and even if you might have some ideas on such coins .. they are not part of this discussion, since if we were to get into discussions of which shitcoins are less shitty, then when are we going to stop? 

At least in terms of the discussion of this particular thread, it seems better to either just say no to any discussion of any shitcoins, unless there is some point that relates to bitcoin or to just dismiss all of the shitcoins in a denigrating way.. which also may or may not be necessary, but sometimes, might be helpful in terms of keeping our discussion and focus on bitcoin.. and since we already have enough areas of discussion, just talking about bitcoin, so why waste our time, monies or energies getting at all involved in shitcoin considerations (which is another way of saying "crypto"), especially in this thread.


Surely, you are saying something similar to me, Ruttoshi - but of course, you said it first... .. and just in regards to your last paragraph, you seem to be referring to affinity scams.. so yeah, a very large majority of shitcoins are affinity scams, which largely means that they play off of the name and the ideas of bitcoin and try to appear similar to bitcoin or even better than bitcoin in order to attract investment into them.. 

JoyMarshal you should always use the right word Bitcoin investment and not crypto because it is how to invest in bitcoin and grow your bitcoin investment with the three accumulating strategies that we are discussing here. If you use the word crypto it will mislead the newbies who are here to learn and they might get confused on which coin that you are talking about because cryptocurrency means bitcoin and the rest shitcoins.

It is only bitcoin that has the potential to last for long because it has shown this in the past and with the recent adoption of bitcoin by institutions and the lunch of bitcoin ETFs shows that there is hope for bitcoin to last long. Shitcoins are like gambling and has a high risk of crashing, because most of them were created to scam people through pump and dump projects.

Even if you reluctantly changed it back, I am glad that you did it.... and as I already mentioned, it seems better to stick with the original title, even if your personal thoughts have evolved on the topic.

As far as other members go?  Yep. it seems that more and more members participating in this thread see the value of DCA.. especially when they are beginners who are in the earlier of stages of building their BTC stash.. ... and so many times, there are going to be thoughts about whether buying the dip is a good idea or even whether any money should be kept on the side for buying the dip rather than buying right away, and surely there are tradeoffs in regards to those kinds of decisions. 

The answer of what to do is not completely clear but likely is somewhat personally dependent on a variety of individual considerations, even though guys are going to continue to bat around the ideas of whether to hold money aside for buying on dip  or to buy right away and  even employ various compromise methods that attempt to balance their considerations and hold some value in each category.

Surely the discussion, the disagreements and the batting around of ideas about whether it might be better to buy right away or hold some value back for buying on dips has been done in the last 5 years of this thread - and who is going to go back and read 5 years worth of posts in order to figure out what they might want to do at the time that they are considering posting in this thread, when either new guys or returning guys are going to want to discuss the ideas within the context of what is happening at the time of their post and not necessarily within a historical context - so in that sense, the topic of buying on dip versus other BTC accumulation strategies remains live, even if the answer might still sometimes end up coming out similar as it had come out earlier - which is for guys to focus on getting their own finances/psychology in order so that whatever BTC accumulation techniques they employ to their own finances is largely tailored to their own personal financial and psychological circumstances rather than concluding that there is only one answer... even though some approaches might end up paying off better than others.. as we also have historically argued about those kinds of ideas in this thread.

It's a mere title as we can say, but there is much to it, the knowledge it has impacted too many, for everyone to learn how to buy the dip and hodl!

I can't be thankless for the kind of knowledge of bitcoin investment I have nurtured in me since I came into contact with the discussion thread of "buy the dip and hodl!''

I want to use the opportunity to openly thank you for creating this wonderful post thread, allowing open discussion for everyone to learn and share their viewpoint on the subject matter.

Having said that, I am not forgetting to thank JayJuanGee for his undiluted contribution and knowledge breakdown of what someone should know about buy the dip and hodl. He rocks with the knowledge of bitcoin, making the majority of the forum members always stick to his analysis of the crypto market, by way of sticking to bitcoin alone not on shitcoins as he always classified altcoins.

Thanks for changing it back Wind Fury :-) There is balance in the force again

Less of the title and more focus on the content and areas in consideration for us to understand why we have to buy and which time is the appropriate one for us to buy, know the best purchasing pattern, how you can hold after you have invested and for how long, there is more to uncover under the topic of buy the dip and hodl, but we have to gradually unveil some crucial aspect of it for the benefit of those learning and aiming towards achieving their own pattern of investing and holding from this thread.

Bitcoin has a lot of strategy including all what you mentioned, I find it difficult understanding your actual point but it seems you’re trying to say the title should not be a problem or since bitcoin accumulation has a lot of approach changing the topic title is also not a problem but I disagree. Well, I have not been so active here in the thread but that’s not the problem or anything related with the topic. When I first found this thread, I started engaging in different kinds of discussion and what I learnt from here is far important than what any social bitcoin influencer will give online concerning bitcoin accumulation, meaning if we should start following each approach with different title always which is not right. The real fact is maintaining a better standard here with good context, for example Buy the Dip and hold doesn’t mean we’re referring to only buying the dip because they’re other strategies discussed here. My only problem is, it’s difficult understanding the replies with the topic title because I went through some comments and I found some title is different from the main title with different quote. Since the thread title (buy the dip and hold) has been for long it’s best the title remain same, there’s no actual need for  argument tho.

Buy Bitcoin and HODL It's like having a well rounded discussion that covers various strategies in purchasing bitcoin, not just focusing on one. Different perspectives and approaches can enrich the conversation and help everyone learn more about Bitcoin accumulation. It's all about finding the right path between different strategies to make the most out of your investments. Buy The DIP and HODL refers to a strategy in particular and in this thread other strategies like DCA are often mentioned. Buy Bitcoin and HODL every one seeing the thread will know specifically its bitcoin discussion not including other Altcoin, shitcoins, it's all about accumulating Bitcoin efficiently and effectively. Keeping the focus on buying Bitcoin and holding onto it for the long term, It's necessary to explore different approaches to make the most out of your Bitcoin.

Your opinion is valid, this thread have been a lot of help to lots of people on this forum not just newbies but also bitcoin enthusiasts benefit from the discussion held here. Accumulating bitcoin is not really very easy for people anymore especially since it price has increased over the years so alot of strategies have been into play and has helped people in their journey, buying the dip played it part well and now it will be even more helpful if other accumulation strategy are being discussed too as no accumulation strategy can be written off.



A while ago i saw “Buy Bitcoin and HODL!” and just now i am reading a different title. You are right it’s merely a title and whichever one you name it will not stop the discussion and the aim of the post, the most important thing is to keep accumulating and HODLing for as long as possible so nothing changed. Truly this topic have been of great help to the entire community and as long as bitcoin exists this thread will be great importance to people.

I actually don't know what the problem is with the change to be frank. It's merely a title. But because many people in the topic wanted the title before "Buy Bitcoin, and HODL", then I could change it back as easily as I changed it before. It's not as important as some of the more informative posts made by many of you in this topic. I truly hope many of you are HODLing, and will have enough Bitcoin savings for the rest of your lives once Bitcoin surges to six digits.

That your motion should not be granted and that motion should be put one side. Yes the Op created the thread and no one is disputing that fact, but don't forget that the thread was created for the public and because of that the community has a say when they feel that something is going in the direction that they don't like. If this thread remain the way it is and the people are losing interest in it do you think it will benefit anyone? The leaders of every organization, be it private or public are there to serve their community, if they bring any policy that the people think is not okay with them they will voice out their concerns and seek for redress. It is very obvious that majority of the active users of this thread are kicking against the change of name of the thread.

The Op has to look at the complaints of the users and act accordingly, provided that what the people are asking for doesn't go against the rules of the forum or goes against the principles of bitcoin investment. We just want to have a sense of belonging where our voices are heard. Even bitcoin belong to the masses and the masses use it the way they want, let us not feel as if we are in a centralized system were the leaders can just do things on their own without considering the feedback from their community.

Is good you change it to the previous title because is not just a title it represents a lot in our investment mindset because in as much as I accumulate on weekly bases but whenever I visit this thread only the name alone becomes a motivation to me because it keeps reminding me how important and consistent I need to be on my accumulation of Bitcoin to enable me have a sufficient amount of Bitcoin in the future which is the reason why I said this thread or rather title represent a lot in most people investment, perhaps that sometimes a title may not actually mean anything to most people but for some persons it means so much for them.

Yes it's commendable to continue with this title as it has created several awareness and has made it way if popularity in the forum and in the mind of investor and newbies I puzzle the first time I enter the forum after the renamed if the thread, it's by wisdom and regular participating of the forum made me understand it's actually the thread just as many has outline which I may not repeat allot of similar thread exist in forum which may contradict a newbie who is not too familiar in navigating the forum when several thread of similarities exist and Even been changed without any notice to the users, I said thank for the return of the formal name.

I'm so happy you changed the topic back to what it was before this thread will be more interesting and impactful especially to we the newbies, it was through the thread a lot of people choosed the strategy they are using in there Bitcoin accumulation and I believe without the DIP in this topic those discussion of different strategy won't come up.
I want to use this opportunity to thank everyone who has been participating very well in this thread and a special thanks to you Wind_FURY for creating such a wonderful topic has changed a lot of negative mindset and helped especially we the newbies and I will also love to thank JayJuanGee for all his wonderful contributions to this thread a lot of use the newbies always enjoy reading your write up it is so impactful.

I believe it was,

Re: Buy every dip!
Re: Buy every dip, and HODL!
Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL!


Then the latest, Re: Buy Bitcoin, and HODL!


OK, at first I told myself that why is changing the title of the topic so unpopular - it's merely a title. I felt there was some pressure towards me to change it back to "Buy the DIP, and HODL". But why would I be pressured if it's merely a title?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Changed.

I feel you guys are reading much meaning into what doesn't matter, for those who has been engaging in this thread will have the basic knowledge on what the thread is talking about, we have been on the discussion about Bitcoin accumulation and we have induced some approaches like DCAing, Buying the Dip, when to lump sum and many more patterns. It's a general thread discussion all on how to accumulate Bitcoin easier, faster and more convenient, so using just one approach as the topic thread is not appropriate whereas other methods are still discussed in it. In everything we do, our primary goal for the thread is all about to Buy Bitcoin, and Hold.

@richbase you have made your point very clear which is quite understandable, but you also need to pay attention to what the op of this thread said in his statement earlier, he said that the reason he changed the topic of this thread to buy Bitcoin and hold was that, recently in this thread, it was made clear to him by we, the participants of this thread that the DCA accumulating strategy was way better than buying only the dip, so that's why he changed it to buy Bitcoin and hold.

But I really buy the idea of what @amicablecrypto said, he said that the dip needs to be part of the discussion, so it wouldn't be nice if it was taken out of the discussion entirely, and I also share the same sentiment with him, the floor of discussion should be open about buying the deep and buying through the DCA accumulating strategy, then it will be left for you as an individual to choose which one that suit you the most