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November 25, 2023, 02:14:54 AM
If an investor could eradicate greed and be more discipline in times of investment it will do them more good than harm because I realized that the reason why most people aggressively invest on Bitcoin is because they feel that it will make them have a more higher returns than slowly investing without knowing that is better to invest slowly and consistently to reach your goal than aggressively investing and being cut up by unforseen challenges.
Most people coming into this market are primarily looking to get rich quickly, so they often overlook investing in Bitcoin for the long term. When it comes to short-term profitability, Bitcoin can't be compared to the rest, but in the long run, Bitcoin is an investment opportunity that cannot be ignored. You can sleep well if you hold onto Bitcoin for many years, but the same cannot be said for the majority of other Altcoins. It takes patience and a clear direction to focus solely on investing in Bitcoin and holding for the long term.
Not many, but all have the same goal of making money using money. We usually make investment decisions knowing that money is at risk in the hope of something good. Investment will not make us rich quick but trust in investment and holding that investment for long time will definitely change our condition. For those who are planning to invest to get very rich in a short period of time, I would suggest that you change your plans a bit. Instead of worrying about short term profits, you can make long term investments with the hope of huge profits. 

I think every investor should read all the posts in this section because most of the posts in this section are very informative for an investor. By reading the posts in this section, an investor will know the right information about investing and those who have the wrong idea that they will become rich overnight in a short period of time by investing in a short period of time will change their minds. 

Long term investment plan is the right investment plan for an investor. To begin with I have read the posts in this section thoroughly before and most of the posts suggest investing in Bitcoin and holding that investment for a long time. After reading the posts in this section all my misconceptions about investing have been cleared and I now understand that long term investing is a viable investment plan for an investor and I now believe in long term investing. 
Those who are new investors buy bitcoin without thinking so much and keep that bitcoin for long time and if possible increase your investment amount you will realize the result at the end of time.
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November 25, 2023, 12:41:15 AM
If an investor could eradicate greed and be more discipline in times of investment it will do them more good than harm because I realized that the reason why most people aggressively invest on Bitcoin is because they feel that it will make them have a more higher returns than slowly investing without knowing that is better to invest slowly and consistently to reach your goal than aggressively investing and being cut up by unforseen challenges.
Most people coming into this market are primarily looking to get rich quickly, so they often overlook investing in Bitcoin for the long term. When it comes to short-term profitability, Bitcoin can't be compared to the rest, but in the long run, Bitcoin is an investment opportunity that cannot be ignored. You can sleep well if you hold onto Bitcoin for many years, but the same cannot be said for the majority of other Altcoins. It takes patience and a clear direction to focus solely on investing in Bitcoin and holding for the long term.
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November 24, 2023, 10:51:58 PM
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Yes, that's true JJG sometimes they have bigger obstacles in their investment journey, whether it's selling too early or delaying buying.

There are a lot of mistakes that normal people can make, without even realizing that they are falling into a pattern, and there can be a tendency to invest money that you need down the road, and you don't really realize that you have not shored up your cashflow.

Sometimes I wonder why those who bought at high prices sell their Bitcoin holdings at low prices.

It is hard to always know what happened, but frequently if someone invests too much then they are expecting the price to go down and not prepared for it to go down, and surely there can be advantages to the BTC price going down, even if you had preferred for the price to go up, which is buying more when it goes down.

So it can take a long time to actually get ahead of your investment in order that the price is always coming to you rather than you going to the price, so if you just continue to buy in a DCA kind of way, that can be one way of getting ahead of the BTC price, even if it might take 2-3 years to actually get to a point that your cost per BTC is actually less than the current price.  It is not guaranteed to happen, but so far anyone who persistently buys BTC, has been ending up getting into profits, even though sometimes it could take 2-3 years before the "being in profits" stage can actually end up happening.

A person who panics, and does not continue to buy but then sells and buys will likely NOT really get to any kind of stage in which his./her holdings is in front of the price.. and it seems such a simple strategy to merely just continue to buy (sure buying on the dip is fine, but buying at any price might well end up being fine in order to keep a person in the right kind of mindset of continuing to build the number of BTC that s/he has in his/her holdings and keeping some faith that that BTC is going to be profitable in the future.. even though it is not guaranteed, it has been a pretty good place to put money and likely to continue to be a good place to put money.


Yes, we know that many of us buy dips and hope that big profits will come our way, but this is only possible for people who are patient and ready to go through many obstacles in their investments.

One or two years can feel like a real long time when the BTC  price is moving against you and you might even be feeling potentially wrong about your choice to get involved in bitcoin..and surely whether you keep buying can be a kind of test, even if you might get worried that you are running out of money, maybe you have to buy smaller amounts just to keep some cash in reserves in case the BTC price drops further (from its already having had dropped more than expected).

Yes, it happened to me that I made a fatal mistake in the previous years because I sold Bitcoin to gamble and that would be a valuable lesson to improve so as not to fall into the same hole.

Some people do not learn from their mistakes and they get sucked into an ongoing gambling direction.  Some people cannot help it.  There are these expressions about "GO BIG or go home" and people really end up practicing those kinds of strategies rather than slow, steady and reasonable strategies and just making sure that their various kinds of extra cashflow and cash reserves are sufficiently stocked so that they won't have to dip into their BTC that is surely at a time that is not of their own choosing and when they might be feeling poor.

Revolution in adapting a new plan and experience is one of the keys to improving the situation for the future.

I am not sure if I would call it revolutionary adapting, but maybe instead just keeping some resolve, and buying a bit more BTC can actually be quite helpful, so there could be ways to do some side projects that might not pay a lot, but the extra money is completely available to buy more bitcoin.. so you might feel good about those little extra stacking efforts, even though it might be stressful to be buying bitcoin at what seems to be prices that are low and could go lower... but you just suck it up and figure out ways to frame your efforts to stack more sats in positive ways.

Bitcoin has brought changes to those who are on the right path to becoming millionaires in the current era. For this reason, the journey of people who got to know Bitcoin earlier might be quite interesting to read about their history.

It is not ONLY the stories of millionaires who are interesting, and surely the ones who were able to bring themselves out of poverty can be quite inspiring, even though they still might be in a kind of poverty, but they end up with more freedoms and abilities to choose their work.

Sure, many folks might consider if they might invest $10 per week and to do that for years and years and years, and after 10 years, they have ONLY invested around $5,200, and so surely there could be some ways to see if their investment is growing, and even if the investment ends up being $10k or even $20k after 10 years, there can be some good feelings that the investment had put them into a better place with more options, even though it might not be fuck you status... and surely after 10 years of persistently investing into bitcoin at $10 per week, there may also be some opportunities that end up coming up in which they might be able to double, triple or even 10x the amount that they are investing into bitcoin without really stressing themselves out any more, and they might even have their lives improving merely from being able to find a place to store wealth that does not lose value and has pretty good chances of increasing in value.. especially if someone is young enough to be able to live 10 years or even 20, 30 or 40years longer, and there can be some guilty feelings too, if you see some of the people who are doing way worse financially (and psychologically and maybe even health-wise) because they did not engage in discipline to invest into bitcoin and to even gravitate towards more aggressive kinds of BTC accumulation strategies in order to NOT lose too much focus on the goals of ongoing accumulation and keeping the coins safe from loss, or getting robbed or getting rug pulled.

As the bullrun is getting closer we shouldn't be taken aback seeing some altcoins doing better all in disguise only to carpet flat after many would have innocent invested their money. I bet that many of the altcoins prices won't be rising along with bitcoin when the bullrun eventually kick start, they rather be doing the opposite. I rather be doing my little DCA holding strategy with bitcoin  with the little % from my monthly income while waiting for the bullrun, it better to partake in it with the little you can  than sitting on the fence.
That's very certain that many altcoins won't roll along with bitcoin in price during the bull run. Some would have lost their value during the bearish market and the ones that survived it to the bull run won't increase as much when compared with bitcoin.
Every investor in bitcoin can be confident that, before the bull run ends, they will make some profits from their bitcoin investment. As for altcoins, you are unsure which one will provide you with the desired profits because of how unpredictable the crypto market can be. But if you love to take risks on altcoins, diversify your investment in top coins.

Fuck shitcoins.  There is no reason to get involved in them, and if you cannot resist your desire to gamble and to fuck around with them, then limit your investment to no more than 10% of the size of your bitcoin holdings and your ongoing strategy should stick with 90% bitcoin.... including any new money that comes in.. make sure you get 90% in bitcoin before getting distracted into shitcoins.. and another bad thing about getting distracted into shitcoins, you are also distracted into dumb ideas.. which may well contribute to your abilities to understand bitcoin as well as you should.

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Are you attempting to distinguish between someone who is just getting into bitcoin and investing versus someone who has been investing for a long time?  There's a difference.
True JJG, perhaps it is not very appropriate for them to measure the degree of difference in the time they have run in Bitcoin investments. Where early investors or those who have known Bitcoin for a longer time in 2013 of course they can buy at a cheap price. And for new investors or those who known Bitcoin this year they buy Bitcoin at a more expensive price but that only measures the entry level they.

The initial investor's investment journey might be better used as a combination to motivate us in our long-term Bitcoin investment journey. Buy aggressively or instantly depending on each strategy and all they need to do is balance your income and expenses to avoid disrupting they investment journey. I think many of the big investors from 2013 bought large amounts of BTC at cheap prices and they either immediately forgot about it or checked back in 10 years or 20 years. Yes they are billionaires now.
The important point here is to stay in the process and enjoy what we do. Regardless of those who have been in bitcoin for a long time or those of us who are still new to bitcoin, all of them must have their own experiences and mistakes but struggling to continue to correct the mistakes we have made is something that really needs to be improved for evaluation so that we are even better.

Sure it does not hurt to try to get feedback with members who have been around longer, but at the same time each of us has to plow our own path and figure out our own details, so I find it a bit problematic to be getting too distracted into what other members were able to do with even less capital... We have to deal with facts in front of us and sure attempt to learn from others, but at the same time, don't forget that some of the grueling and difficult tasks that we carry out might even be more challenging than some of the OLDER (longer term) members had carried out.  $10 per week is not going to work out as well now as it did in the past 10 years if someone had been ongoingly investing in bitcoin at that rate, but if we are ONLY able to do $10 per week, then we might be in our own hero's journey to keep investing at that rate, and maybe even we might end up being more of a hero if we are able to increase our weekly investment amount without necessarily unduly putting ourselves into too much financial and/or psychological stress due to such BTC accumulation-oriented budgetary increases.

Many people are still considering about prices that are considered too high for now and are not willing to start because expecting the time when bitcoin was lower will also be useless because in the end everything has its own time because not necessarily if we know bitcoin from the first time we can also invest well because there will definitely be some mistakes made such as selling bitcoin too fast from the target to be achieved and so on.

Yep  some people fail to act because they are strategizing too much and then if they do act, sometimes they are also strategizing too much when they believe that they are going to play the waves and it might not work out very well for them, as compared to just a consistent and persistent BTC accumulation style that may well be a bit less than aggressive, but it is the less aggressive (and maybe even whimpy) style that ends up balancing out so that the person is able to get started rather than putting his/her own obstacles by getting too worked up about buying on dips that may or may not end up happening..

Now we just have to focus on what we are doing now with the process that we believe that bitcoin is worth considering as an investment.

I think so .. get our shit together if it is not together.. or just go over our plans from time to time  to make  sure that we are employing the plan in a way that is sufficiently comfortable.

Regardless of the time that has happened it will also not be repeated and we do not need to feel sorry for what has happened because after all there are positives that can be taken because maybe if we did not make mistakes before we would not be like now and have a broader view of bitcoin.

Well, 5-10 years down the road, you may end up looking like a genius to those people who might just start to consider getting into bitcoin 5-10 years from now.. or even if they have been considering bitcoin for the past 5-10 years, it may take another 5-10 years before the finally end up acting and starting to regularly accumulate bitcoin, like the probably should have already have had been doing, but they could not figure out any ways to get started, and so the fact that you are started and maybe you have even been acting for a year or two, may well put you way ahead of others, even if your current BTC holdings might not be above water yet.

but it might be possible to make lump sum investments in some other assets, whether it is stock or property or something else (should not be shitcoins unless it is limited to small amounts such as less than 10%) so that your total value is not just in bitcoin and cash.
There's a question I'll like you to lend your thoughts, something about cryptocurrency diversification and since you have raised the discuss I feel I use this opportunity to ask you for a clarification about it to get your thoughts.

Ii read a comment sometime this year that says investing in bitcoin and other altcoins isn't diversification, as in investing in different cryptocurrencies shouldn't be termed as diversification since they are all cryptocurrencies, that an actual diversification of Investment should be in different lines of businesses, example bitcoin and real estate.

JJG, what do you think?

Generally the idea of diversifying accross asset classes is to attempt to achieve some level of non-correlation, and so in the crypto space, they are all dependent on bitcoin doing well, so the shitcoins are correlated to bitcoin, so you likely do not get any advantage investing into any of them.  It is like you are adding extra risk, but they are pretty much going to perform in line with bitcoin...and bitcoin is already a risky asset so why add more risk by investing into shitcoins.

Of course, you can do what you want, and part of the reason that I suggest to not put more than 10% of the size of your bitcoin holdings into any shitcins (or all shitcoins combined that you choose to buy) is partly based on the idea that you are likely not getting any extra advantage by exposing yourself to them and then having to study aspects of their ecosystem or attempt to evaluate their claims regarding what they claim to be offerring that may not even be enough to distinguish themselves from bitcoin.

Attempt to remember another dynamic is that for any shitcoin to knock out bitcoin, it is going to need to be at least 10x better than bitcoin, and surely many of them will make claims of being better or providing some other service that bitcoin might not currently provide, but is that 10x better than bitcoin in order to displace bitcoin as some of them make claims to be able to displace bitcoin and to take market share away from bitcoin, even though sometimes they are not really clear about what it is that they are supposedly providing, such as ethereum being a way to pump and dump shitcoins, and is that anything that is actually needed.,

Don't get me wrong,I am not even suggesting that all of the shitcoins are going to disappear in the coming 20 to 50 years, so there will frequently be various kinds of distractions, and maybe that does not really hurt bitcoin, even though it is irritating and maybe sad sometimes, yet a lot of people are going to get distracted into various shitcoins, and it is up to you how much you want to get involved in that nonsense and likely mostly waste your time..
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November 24, 2023, 10:47:50 PM
Yes, that's true JJG sometimes they have bigger obstacles in their investment journey, whether it's selling too early or delaying buying. Sometimes I wonder why those who bought at high prices sell their Bitcoin holdings at low prices. Yes, we know that many of us buy dips and hope that big profits will come our way, but this is only possible for people who are patient and ready to go through many obstacles in their investments.

Yes, it happened to me that I made a fatal mistake in the previous years because I sold Bitcoin to gamble and that would be a valuable lesson to improve so as not to fall into the same hole. Revolution in adapting a new plan and experience is one of the keys to improving the situation for the future. Bitcoin has brought changes to those who are on the right path to becoming millionaires in the current era. For this reason, the journey of people who got to know Bitcoin earlier might be quite interesting to read about their history.
All other coins in the market are dependent on Bitcoin and Bitcoin is able to hold its value well in both market conditions. It is clear that Bitcoin price changes have a great impact on all other coins in the market. When the value of Bitcoin increases, the value of all other coins in the market increases, and when the value of Bitcoin decreases, the value of all other coins in the market decreases. If a new member is asked to distinguish between Bitcoin and ALT Coin, that new member will distinguish between the two and put Bitcoin ahead and trust Bitcoin. There is nothing to compare Bitcoin with ALT Coin for long term investment. 

Those who have held Bitcoin for a long time in the past will not have to think twice about which coins to buy when they plan to hold again in the future. There is no need to analyze the Bitcoin market to hold your investment deeply because temporary changes in the market have no effect on long-term investment. Since investments are made with the intention of deep holding, the expectations of a long-term investor are very high. I think we don't need to think about which coins we will hold deeply in long term plan but we should plan how deeply we will hold our investment. By keeping bitcoin in plan we must hold investment for long term and if we can hold bitcoin in long term plan then this long term hold can be turning point in our life.
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November 24, 2023, 08:56:32 PM
As the bullrun is getting closer we shouldn't be taken aback seeing some altcoins doing better all in disguise only to carpet flat after many would have innocent invested their money. I bet that many of the altcoins prices won't be rising along with bitcoin when the bullrun eventually kick start, they rather be doing the opposite. I rather be doing my little DCA holding strategy with bitcoin  with the little % from my monthly income while waiting for the bullrun, it better to partake in it with the little you can  than sitting on the fence.
That's very certain that many altcoins won't roll along with bitcoin in price during the bull run. Some would have lost their value during the bearish market and the ones that survived it to the bull run won't increase as much when compared with bitcoin.
Every investor in bitcoin can be confident that, before the bull run ends, they will make some profits from their bitcoin investment.

Bitcoin is always the best, because those who are modern today are ready to use Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the only long-term investment possible, but other Altcoins are not. Because I have seen thousands of Altcoins still disappearing from the market. So for long-term investment, definitely support Bitcoin.


As for altcoins, you are unsure which one will provide you with the desired profits because of how unpredictable the crypto market can be. But if you love to take risks on altcoins, diversify your investment in top coins.

You can never survive investing with Altcoins. Altcoins are not long-term holdings because the altcoin market is always bearish. Investing in Altcoins always has a high chance of losing 100% of your wealth. Among them are coins like FTX, Luna and many others that have completely disappeared from the market. And the wealth of thousands of people has turned into zero balance. So it is better to stay away from Altcoin investment.
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November 24, 2023, 08:35:57 PM
At a certain point, there may be a need for an investor to delve into something that is certain to provide a faster return, perhaps in a short period of time.
Why?  Isn't bitcoin potentially volatile enough?  What more "faster return" is necessary, and at what point would a person "need" to engage in such extra risk taking, when bitcoin is already risky?
No doubt bitcoin is potentially volatile with its own peculiar risk and returns but investing (diversifying) in other different projects that's not cryptocurrency is another form of expansion that returns made from there can be utilize into accumulating and increasing your bitcoin portfolio, in my opinion a good diversification can be a supportive ground for a bitcoin investor not to tamper with his bitcoin investment at any  financial emergency storm that might hit.

If the money is there enough to diversify the risk factor shouldn't be an excuse not to diversify. None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.

Be careful in mixing your metaphors too much.

One of the advantages of bitcoin remains position size, and if you go into a business, you usually will have a lot of upfront costs and time investments too.

With bitcoin you can adjust the the amount that you buy regularly, and you can also make sure that you have a sufficient extra cashflow for both income replacement and also emergencies.. ..so the mere fact that you don't diversify further is not the same as driving without a spare tire because hopefully you have already figured out your various amounts, and as you continue to build your bitcoin, there may be points in which diversification is starting to make sense, especially if you might start to have a couple of years of income within your cash reserves and your BTC investment.. but how you go about adding other ways of diversifying can be quite varied in how people might do it, whether they continue to buy BTC and then add other things that they are buying or if they slow down on their BTC buying or if they stop it completely...
alright JJG, I get the sharp end of your point now. And about the metaphors  I'll think of something about that. Grin
 
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but it might be possible to make lump sum investments in some other assets, whether it is stock or property or something else (should not be shitcoins unless it is limited to small amounts such as less than 10%) so that your total value is not just in bitcoin and cash.
There's a question I'll like you to lend your thoughts, something about cryptocurrency diversification and since you have raised the discuss I feel I use this opportunity to ask you for a clarification about it to get your thoughts.

Ii read a comment sometime this year that says investing in bitcoin and other altcoins isn't diversification, as in investing in different cryptocurrencies shouldn't be termed as diversification since they are all cryptocurrencies, that an actual diversification of Investment should be in different lines of businesses, example bitcoin and real estate.

JJG, what do you think?
Yeah actually let me try if I can answer your question, so however first you need to understand the word diversification  it means expanding or enlarging your investment to some other things, but however chosen altcoins to invest could also be known as diversification because irrespective of there general name which is crytocurrency but they have different sub names, but however I would not advised you to invest on altcoins as a diversification because they are not worth it.

If you are looking for were to diversify some of your investment, altcoins shouldn't be an option or perhaps you could just stick to only on Bitcoin.
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November 24, 2023, 06:45:13 PM
If an investor could eradicate greed and be more discipline in times of investment it will do them more good than harm because I realized that the reason why most people aggressively invest on Bitcoin is because they feel that it will make them have a more higher returns than slowly investing without knowing that is better to invest slowly and consistently to reach your goal than aggressively investing and being cut up by unforseen challenges.
Sometimes greed and risk is all we need in other to get that good profit that we desire, and I see no wrong for someone to buy and hold bitcoin as much as they could when they have the money, if you can afford it their is no point in stopping your self from buying and holding as many bitcoin as you can afford, so those investors who have enough money to pump into bitcoin is not to be consider being greedy but they are just taking the right step preparing their self for what’s to come in the next bull run or how ever long it might take for the price to hit their desire target.

And then again, their is not like “it’s as if the money they spend the more profit they make” the truth is, the money you can be able to accumulate the higher profit that you will be expecting when the price of bitcoin will go up those who hold less can not be compared with those who hold larger amount, the profit percentage might be the same depending on the entry price and time of selling but the high you hold the hirer the profit, the only time I can be against anyone buying more bitcoin is if they can’t afford the money they pump in it but they either use others funds or borrow just to accumulate, if they can afford it then they are free to buy as many as they went.
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November 24, 2023, 05:50:12 PM
At a certain point, there may be a need for an investor to delve into something that is certain to provide a faster return, perhaps in a short period of time.
Why?  Isn't bitcoin potentially volatile enough?  What more "faster return" is necessary, and at what point would a person "need" to engage in such extra risk taking, when bitcoin is already risky?
No doubt bitcoin is potentially volatile with its own peculiar risk and returns but investing (diversifying) in other different projects that's not cryptocurrency is another form of expansion that returns made from there can be utilize into accumulating and increasing your bitcoin portfolio, in my opinion a good diversification can be a supportive ground for a bitcoin investor not to tamper with his bitcoin investment at any  financial emergency storm that might hit.

If the money is there enough to diversify the risk factor shouldn't be an excuse not to diversify. None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.

Be careful in mixing your metaphors too much.

One of the advantages of bitcoin remains position size, and if you go into a business, you usually will have a lot of upfront costs and time investments too.

With bitcoin you can adjust the the amount that you buy regularly, and you can also make sure that you have a sufficient extra cashflow for both income replacement and also emergencies.. ..so the mere fact that you don't diversify further is not the same as driving without a spare tire because hopefully you have already figured out your various amounts, and as you continue to build your bitcoin, there may be points in which diversification is starting to make sense, especially if you might start to have a couple of years of income within your cash reserves and your BTC investment.. but how you go about adding other ways of diversifying can be quite varied in how people might do it, whether they continue to buy BTC and then add other things that they are buying or if they slow down on their BTC buying or if they stop it completely...
alright JJG, I get the sharp end of your point now. And about the metaphors  I'll think of something about that. Grin
 
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but it might be possible to make lump sum investments in some other assets, whether it is stock or property or something else (should not be shitcoins unless it is limited to small amounts such as less than 10%) so that your total value is not just in bitcoin and cash.
There's a question I'll like you to lend your thoughts, something about cryptocurrency diversification and since you have raised the discuss I feel I use this opportunity to ask you for a clarification about it to get your thoughts.

Ii read a comment sometime this year that says investing in bitcoin and other altcoins isn't diversification, as in investing in different cryptocurrencies shouldn't be termed as diversification since they are all cryptocurrencies, that an actual diversification of Investment should be in different lines of businesses, example bitcoin and real estate.

JJG, what do you think?

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November 24, 2023, 05:22:14 PM
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Are you attempting to distinguish between someone who is just getting into bitcoin and investing versus someone who has been investing for a long time?  There's a difference.
True JJG, perhaps it is not very appropriate for them to measure the degree of difference in the time they have run in Bitcoin investments. Where early investors or those who have known Bitcoin for a longer time in 2013 of course they can buy at a cheap price. And for new investors or those who known Bitcoin this year they buy Bitcoin at a more expensive price but that only measures the entry level they.

The initial investor's investment journey might be better used as a combination to motivate us in our long-term Bitcoin investment journey. Buy aggressively or instantly depending on each strategy and all they need to do is balance your income and expenses to avoid disrupting they investment journey. I think many of the big investors from 2013 bought large amounts of BTC at cheap prices and they either immediately forgot about it or checked back in 10 years or 20 years. Yes they are billionaires now.
The important point here is to stay in the process and enjoy what we do.
Regardless of those who have been in bitcoin for a long time or those of us who are still new to bitcoin, all of them must have their own experiences and mistakes but struggling to continue to correct the mistakes we have made is something that really needs to be improved for evaluation so that we are even better.
Many people are still considering about prices that are considered too high for now and are not willing to start because expecting the time when bitcoin was lower will also be useless because in the end everything has its own time because not necessarily if we know bitcoin from the first time we can also invest well because there will definitely be some mistakes made such as selling bitcoin too fast from the target to be achieved and so on.
Now we just have to focus on what we are doing now with the process that we believe that bitcoin is worth considering as an investment. Regardless of the time that has happened it will also not be repeated and we do not need to feel sorry for what has happened because after all there are positives that can be taken because maybe if we did not make mistakes before we would not be like now and have a broader view of bitcoin.
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November 24, 2023, 05:14:28 PM
As the bullrun is getting closer we shouldn't be taken aback seeing some altcoins doing better all in disguise only to carpet flat after many would have innocent invested their money. I bet that many of the altcoins prices won't be rising along with bitcoin when the bullrun eventually kick start, they rather be doing the opposite. I rather be doing my little DCA holding strategy with bitcoin  with the little % from my monthly income while waiting for the bullrun, it better to partake in it with the little you can  than sitting on the fence.
That's very certain that many altcoins won't roll along with bitcoin in price during the bull run. Some would have lost their value during the bearish market and the ones that survived it to the bull run won't increase as much when compared with bitcoin.
Every investor in bitcoin can be confident that, before the bull run ends, they will make some profits from their bitcoin investment. As for altcoins, you are unsure which one will provide you with the desired profits because of how unpredictable the crypto market can be. But if you love to take risks on altcoins, diversify your investment in top coins.
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November 24, 2023, 04:15:46 PM
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Are you attempting to distinguish between someone who is just getting into bitcoin and investing versus someone who has been investing for a long time?  There's a difference.
True JJG, perhaps it is not very appropriate for them to measure the degree of difference in the time they have run in Bitcoin investments. Where early investors or those who have known Bitcoin for a longer time in 2013 of course they can buy at a cheap price. And for new investors or those who known Bitcoin this year they buy Bitcoin at a more expensive price but that only measures the entry level they.

The initial investor's investment journey might be better used as a combination to motivate us in our long-term Bitcoin investment journey. Buy aggressively or instantly depending on each strategy and all they need to do is balance your income and expenses to avoid disrupting they investment journey. I think many of the big investors from 2013 bought large amounts of BTC at cheap prices and they either immediately forgot about it or checked back in 10 years or 20 years. Yes they are billionaires now.

We cannot necessarily assume that people who have been in bitcoin for a long time have errored on the side of buying and accumulating BTC, and there have been a lot of mistakes along the way, including selling too many too early, and sometimes having regrets, sometimes suffering paralysis and sometimes getting back into accumulating at a later date, even if if they could have been much better off to have had not take a pause in their bitcoin accumulation journey.

Sometimes people need to go through some mistakes before they learn their lesson, and we have already seen examples of situations in which someone could have gotten into bitcoin in the last 4-6 years and to be doing quite well, but some of these people are also either not doing well and/or they might be engaging in earlier level accumulations of BTC in order to make up for their mistakes.   

Sometimes knowing too much about BTC can be a hinderance because we can get psyched out of buying more of it at higher prices, and so sometimes the people who are more newbies to bitcoin and investing may well end up passing up some of the guys who have known about bitcoin for a while but either failed to take sufficient and consistent actions or they might have sold too many BTC too soon and then their own psychology (and mental blocks) contribute to their thinking about bitcoin in wrong ways, including thinking that $100 per week is not enough, and they are too late, especially if they used to have 10 BTC and maybe since they have less than 1 BTC they might consider that they are never going to get to a similar level of BTC holdings again, especially if they ONLY can afford around $100 per week to buy bitcoin, but they think that is not enough.. which is true that it will not get them back to 10 BTC, but it may well still be the better (if not the best) of investment options that are currently available to them.

I have heard some financial shows and they do not even mention bitcoin as being part of the portfolio, which seems a very BIG mistake, too, so even people who are actively investing into bitcoin now and taking measures to get their finances (and psychology) in order are going to be in much better shape than those people who might not start investing in bitcoin for several more years.
Yes, that's true JJG sometimes they have bigger obstacles in their investment journey, whether it's selling too early or delaying buying. Sometimes I wonder why those who bought at high prices sell their Bitcoin holdings at low prices. Yes, we know that many of us buy dips and hope that big profits will come our way, but this is only possible for people who are patient and ready to go through many obstacles in their investments.

Yes, it happened to me that I made a fatal mistake in the previous years because I sold Bitcoin to gamble and that would be a valuable lesson to improve so as not to fall into the same hole. Revolution in adapting a new plan and experience is one of the keys to improving the situation for the future. Bitcoin has brought changes to those who are on the right path to becoming millionaires in the current era. For this reason, the journey of people who got to know Bitcoin earlier might be quite interesting to read about their history.
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Are you attempting to distinguish between someone who is just getting into bitcoin and investing versus someone who has been investing for a long time?  There's a difference.
True JJG, perhaps it is not very appropriate for them to measure the degree of difference in the time they have run in Bitcoin investments. Where early investors or those who have known Bitcoin for a longer time in 2013 of course they can buy at a cheap price. And for new investors or those who known Bitcoin this year they buy Bitcoin at a more expensive price but that only measures the entry level they.

The initial investor's investment journey might be better used as a combination to motivate us in our long-term Bitcoin investment journey. Buy aggressively or instantly depending on each strategy and all they need to do is balance your income and expenses to avoid disrupting they investment journey. I think many of the big investors from 2013 bought large amounts of BTC at cheap prices and they either immediately forgot about it or checked back in 10 years or 20 years. Yes they are billionaires now.

We cannot necessarily assume that people who have been in bitcoin for a long time have errored on the side of buying and accumulating BTC, and there have been a lot of mistakes along the way, including selling too many too early, and sometimes having regrets, sometimes suffering paralysis and sometimes getting back into accumulating at a later date, even if if they could have been much better off to have had not take a pause in their bitcoin accumulation journey.

Sometimes people need to go through some mistakes before they learn their lesson, and we have already seen examples of situations in which someone could have gotten into bitcoin in the last 4-6 years and to be doing quite well, but some of these people are also either not doing well and/or they might be engaging in earlier level accumulations of BTC in order to make up for their mistakes.   

Sometimes knowing too much about BTC can be a hinderance because we can get psyched out of buying more of it at higher prices, and so sometimes the people who are more newbies to bitcoin and investing may well end up passing up some of the guys who have known about bitcoin for a while but either failed to take sufficient and consistent actions or they might have sold too many BTC too soon and then their own psychology (and mental blocks) contribute to their thinking about bitcoin in wrong ways, including thinking that $100 per week is not enough, and they are too late, especially if they used to have 10 BTC and maybe since they have less than 1 BTC they might consider that they are never going to get to a similar level of BTC holdings again, especially if they ONLY can afford around $100 per week to buy bitcoin, but they think that is not enough.. which is true that it will not get them back to 10 BTC, but it may well still be the better (if not the best) of investment options that are currently available to them.

I have heard some financial shows and they do not even mention bitcoin as being part of the portfolio, which seems a very BIG mistake, too, so even people who are actively investing into bitcoin now and taking measures to get their finances (and psychology) in order are going to be in much better shape than those people who might not start investing in bitcoin for several more years.
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November 24, 2023, 02:36:52 PM
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Are you attempting to distinguish between someone who is just getting into bitcoin and investing versus someone who has been investing for a long time?  There's a difference.
True JJG, perhaps it is not very appropriate for them to measure the degree of difference in the time they have run in Bitcoin investments. Where early investors or those who have known Bitcoin for a longer time in 2013 of course they can buy at a cheap price. And for new investors or those who known Bitcoin this year they buy Bitcoin at a more expensive price but that only measures the entry level they.

The initial investor's investment journey might be better used as a combination to motivate us in our long-term Bitcoin investment journey. Buy aggressively or instantly depending on each strategy and all they need to do is balance your income and expenses to avoid disrupting they investment journey. I think many of the big investors from 2013 bought large amounts of BTC at cheap prices and they either immediately forgot about it or checked back in 10 years or 20 years. Yes they are billionaires now.
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November 24, 2023, 02:26:28 PM

A person who focuses on BTC is definitely best off thinking about everything else, investing in Bitcoin would be the best sign for him. At the current price of Bitcoin if you buy from here and plan to hold it for a long time then I think your plan will be right. The BTC market may rise even more in the coming days, so it is wise to buy and hold Bitcoins before the halving. The year 2024 is very close so we think that after the bitcoin halving the market is likely to go higher and the market will see the green candlelight. So invest bitcoin with no thought and wait till bull market, and help will be good advice for you.

i don't think buying at once for an entry level point or low income is a good one considering the current market value, rather a DCA or NCA could be better as there  won't be any worries about all funds in stake but pays in little by little with a rest of mind
Out of mind never said that you should buy a whole one bitcoin, but he was advising people that don't have bitcoin to buy before the halving,  because after the halving the price of Bitcoin may pump to an amount that they wouldn't be comfortable with buying. You should also take note that this is a general board thread and not your local board, therefore, when you are talking about regular buying of bitcoin weekly or monthly, you use the right world Dollar Cost Average (DCA) and not Naira Cost Average (NCA), because if everyone wants to use their local currency in discussion, people will get confused and it might be misleading to newbies.



A person who focuses on BTC is definitely best off thinking about everything else, investing in Bitcoin would be the best sign for him. At the current price of Bitcoin if you buy from here and plan to hold it for a long time then I think your plan will be right. The BTC market may rise even more in the coming days, so it is wise to buy and hold Bitcoins before the halving. The year 2024 is very close so we think that after the bitcoin halving the market is likely to go higher and the market will see the green candlelight. So invest bitcoin with no thought and wait till bull market, and help will be good advice for you.


i don't think buying at once for an entry level point or low income is a good one considering the current market value, rather a DCA or NCA could be better as there  won't be any worries about all funds in stake but pays in little by little with a rest of mind.
There are people who do not have regular cash flow rather they have lump sum that comes in a way they cannot predict. Some of such people may not know how to work out a DCA schedule and even when some do, they may not have the discipline to implement it without tampering with the money before the due date for investment via the DCA method. In a situation like this, instant purchase can be a favourable option when some part of the funds have been set aside for basic needs.
This is why investing in any business needs discipline and self control, this is the same with bitcoin, because anyone who doesn't have a good financial management will find it difficult to reach his bitcoin target. Anyone that can't stay focus on bitcoin journey by using the money that he has planned to buy bitcoin for other purpose didn't have a proper plan on how much he will use to buy bitcoin that wouldn't affect his monthly needs. When you have a huge amount of money, it is better that you split it into three parts and use one part for lump sum, the second part for regular DCA and the last part to buy at the dip. This is why you don't need to depend on that money for any emergency because the money for emergency and monthly needs has already been kept aside. Believe me or not any investor the will not be able to keep cash in preparation for upfront DCA or buying at the dip, will also sell part of his bitcoin when he uses all the money to lump sum due to lack of preparation to have reserve funds and emergency funds.

The DCa method is good and highly recommended for low income people and it is easier for people that have regular cashflow like those earning salary. It will just be a matter of deciding what portion of your salary you will set aside monthly for Bitcoin investment.
DCA method is the best for beginners and those that are in their early stage of their bitcoin journey because it opens room for them to accumulate frequently and increasing their portfolio constantly.
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November 24, 2023, 02:21:03 PM
At a certain point, there may be a need for an investor to delve into something that is certain to provide a faster return, perhaps in a short period of time.
Why?  Isn't bitcoin potentially volatile enough?  What more "faster return" is necessary, and at what point would a person "need" to engage in such extra risk taking, when bitcoin is already risky?
No doubt bitcoin is potentially volatile with its own peculiar risk and returns but investing (diversifying) in other different projects that's not cryptocurrency is another form of expansion that returns made from there can be utilize into accumulating and increasing your bitcoin portfolio, in my opinion a good diversification can be a supportive ground for a bitcoin investor not to tamper with his bitcoin investment at any  financial emergency storm that might hit.

If the money is there enough to diversify the risk factor shouldn't be an excuse not to diversify. None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.

Be careful in mixing your metaphors too much.

One of the advantages of bitcoin remains position size, and if you go into a business, you usually will have a lot of upfront costs and time investments too.

With bitcoin you can adjust the the amount that you buy regularly, and you can also make sure that you have a sufficient extra cashflow for both income replacement and also emergencies.. ..so the mere fact that you don't diversify further is not the same as driving without a spare tire because hopefully you have already figured out your various amounts, and as you continue to build your bitcoin, there may be points in which diversification is starting to make sense, especially if you might start to have a couple of years of income within your cash reserves and your BTC investment.. but how you go about adding other ways of diversifying can be quite varied in how people might do it, whether they continue to buy BTC and then add other things that they are buying or if they slow down on their BTC buying or if they stop it completely... but it might be possible to make lump sum investments in some other assets, whether it is stock or property or something else (should not be shitcoins unless it is limited to small amounts such as less than 10%) so that your total value is not just in bitcoin and cash.
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November 24, 2023, 01:48:00 PM

A person who focuses on BTC is definitely best off thinking about everything else, investing in Bitcoin would be the best sign for him. At the current price of Bitcoin if you buy from here and plan to hold it for a long time then I think your plan will be right. The BTC market may rise even more in the coming days, so it is wise to buy and hold Bitcoins before the halving. The year 2024 is very close so we think that after the bitcoin halving the market is likely to go higher and the market will see the green candlelight. So invest bitcoin with no thought and wait till bull market, and help will be good advice for you.

i don't think buying at once for an entry level point or low income is a good one considering the current market value, rather a DCA or NCA could be better as there  won't be any worries about all funds in stake but pays in little by little with a rest of mind.
On this contrary, no method of buying is considered bad irrespective of your income level. The method you chose to adopt depends entirely on what you are comfortable with because there are many factors that can make you chose how to buy.  There are people who do not have regular cash flow rather they have lump sum that comes in a way they cannot predict. Some of such people may not know how to work out a DCA schedule and even when some do, they may not have the discipline to implement it without tampering with the money before the due date for investment via the DCA method. In a situation like this, instant purchase can be a favourable option when some part of the funds have been set aside for basic needs.

The DCa method is good and highly recommended for low income people and it is easier for people that have regular cashflow like those earning salary. It will just be a matter of deciding what portion of your salary you will set aside monthly for Bitcoin investment.

Once again, let us understand that as our personalities differs,  so does our preferences and for Bitcoin investment, our choice of purchase pattern may vary but what should be constant is that we should buy and hdl
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November 24, 2023, 12:44:53 PM

A person who focuses on BTC is definitely best off thinking about everything else, investing in Bitcoin would be the best sign for him. At the current price of Bitcoin if you buy from here and plan to hold it for a long time then I think your plan will be right. The BTC market may rise even more in the coming days, so it is wise to buy and hold Bitcoins before the halving. The year 2024 is very close so we think that after the bitcoin halving the market is likely to go higher and the market will see the green candlelight. So invest bitcoin with no thought and wait till bull market, and help will be good advice for you.

i don't think buying at once for an entry level point or low income is a good one considering the current market value, rather a DCA or NCA could be better as there  won't be any worries about all funds in stake but pays in little by little with a rest of mind.

I guess everyone is excited about the upcoming event , i am also but let's try not to be overclouded by this excitements Cheesy
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November 24, 2023, 10:47:24 AM
As the bullrun is getting closer we shouldn't be taken aback seeing some altcoins doing better all in disguise only to carpet flat after many would have innocent invested their money. I bet that many of the altcoins prices won't be rising along with bitcoin when the bullrun eventually kick start, they rather be doing the opposite. I rather be doing my little DCA holding strategy with bitcoin  with the little % from my monthly income while waiting for the bullrun, it better to partake in it with the little you can  than sitting on the fence.

If you are focused on BTC, I think it's better not to think about the outside anymore. Just BTC and search quickly to collect as much as possible in various ways. January 2024 is only a month and 6 days away and the issue of increasing BTC is also being discussed very intensively even in the midst of these uncertain economic conditions.
A person who focuses on BTC is definitely best off thinking about everything else, investing in Bitcoin would be the best sign for him. At the current price of Bitcoin if you buy from here and plan to hold it for a long time then I think your plan will be right. The BTC market may rise even more in the coming days, so it is wise to buy and hold Bitcoins before the halving. The year 2024 is very close so we think that after the bitcoin halving the market is likely to go higher and the market will see the green candlelight. So invest bitcoin with no thought and wait till bull market, and help will be good advice for you.
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November 24, 2023, 10:47:00 AM
That's why DCA was actually the best strategy and will remain the best because irrespective of how DCA strategy seem more of slowly accumulation but what matters is doing the investment in the right way free from unforseen risk and perhaps with time the targets will be achieved.

I agree and like your thoughts. I think the DCA method is the best. There is nothing better than saving Bitcoin little by little without having to burden your finances and mind. Using aggressive methods is very risky, although if successful you will get big profits. But think again, are the benefits worth the risk of financial difficulties if the plan fails? In my opinion, it is better to enjoy compound interest from the little by little accumulation that we collect.
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November 24, 2023, 10:35:06 AM
Once you start making gains from the business, you could aggressively buy Bitcoin using some of the profits from the business and your income. This way, you may now be buying Bitcoin using your income ($200) and from your business gains ($50) weekly, helping you reach the level of Bitcoin portfolio you desire.

Sure, there are frequently complexities for business opportunities that maybe or may not be worth the injection of capital to get into such operations, and sometimes there can be good opportunties, so we cannot weigh those kinds of trade offs in a thread like this, and we cannot necessarily assume, either, that it would automatically be better to get into a business rather than buying BTC with the extra capital.. it is not easy to know without getting into particulars of the business.. .

And as Salahmu mentioned in the next post, people will sometimes get distracted by supposed "business opportunities" and want to spend their bitcoin investment, which can be very tempting, but not necessarily a good idea for someone to get so excited about supposed opportunities that s/he has merely because s/he has savings and an investment in bitcoin that is generally growing and so dipping into it is tempting, but not be as good of an idea as continuing to build the bitcoin investment with out getting distracted... and of course, everyone has to figure out how to balance these kinds of temptations, and whether the opportunity that is presented is as great as it appears from the initial stages... but might not be so great after several years of wasting time in it. when you could have had been building your bitcoin holdings in other ways.  There is no exactly better choice, even though there likely can be due diligence difficulties that might even be more difficult to assess than assessing the putting of value into bitcoin.
I agree with everything that you said @JJG, I don't know why some people haven't build up the initial their bitcoin investment portfolio to a good level, and they are talking about diversification to another investment. They don't know that it will be a big distraction for them to reach their bitcoin goal and also to continue with the bitcoin accumulation. This is because they will stop their bitcoin accumulation and start paying more attention on the new business that they want to start with. How are we even sure that such business will yield a better profit than their bitcoin investment, which I doubt. It is easy to manage on investment than two especially when the investment is still very young. Before you know it such people might even go to the extend of selling part of their bitcoin to put into the new business when it is faced with some challenges. It is a poor investment practice and should not be encourage because you might end up losing the opportunity to buy bitcoin more cheaper because you have lost focus on buying bitcoin for some period of time.

None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.
I disagree with you on this, because you are complicating yourself here, before venturing into your bitcoin accumulation journey, you should have make a proper plan so that you can use the money that will not affect your monthly up keep and you should also make preparation for emergency funds already on ground and also reserve funds so that no matter what happens along the line on your bitcoin journey, apart from death you will overcome the challenge because you are already prepared on a long term bitcoin accumulation goal. Diversifying is not necessary, and not all successful bitcoin long term hodlers diversify on their way to their bitcoin target. Stay focus and don't distract yourself. How will low income earners diversify but low income earners can achieve their bitcoin target with commitment, discipline and patience.




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