Topic: Buy the DIP, and HODL! - page 37. (Read 129046 times)

All the right information that they need to know about bitcoin, and how to go about it are already discussed in this thread. I don't think there is nothing more that we can do for those newbies that are coming into bitcoin investment now, other than encourage them to go through the thread and ask questions where they are confused. A lot of people have shared their vast knowledge about bitcoin and their experiences here, so it is left for the newbies to show some level of commitment, by going through the thread and get whatever information they want.

A Bitcoin investor should not treat holding and trading as the same thing. Trading is generally risky especially since Bitcoin is the most volatile currency an investor can lose his money in a very short period of time. But if he accumulates his bitcoins long term, he can protect his wealth from volatility. At the same time he will be able to hold bitcoin uninterruptedly. A trader may gain small amount of  in short term by trading bitcoins but if he holds then he will be able to grow his bitcoin portfolio in long term. If a trader tries to hold bitcoins regularly according to his ability, he can definitely be profitable in the long run, avoiding the tendency to make a profit. If MicroStrategy was trading Bitcoin they could be profitable, it would increase its profits in the short term, but despite that possibility, the company is focusing on bitcoin holdings. In the long run a trader may be worse off but a bitcoin holder's wealth will continue to grow.

Ignoring might cause misleading thoughts to other people especially that we have newbie audiences here could read their opinion so instead of ignoring them better if you share your valid or good insight so that you can correct their wrong thoughts and contribute more good opinion so that they will be corrected as well they cannot read misinformation.

Although I understand that ignoring would be better, but if we help other to understand to know more precise detail about the topic discuss I guess taking taking those topic still have a sense since we can help other to understand well or get good correction from your good opinions. As of the moment where bitcoin is hitting again its new high to many people got interested about holding investment with bitcoin that's why its good to share good thoughts and correct those wrong information shared by other people.

We can only employ DCA in our investment and not employ Bitcoin in DCA.

This depends on what you mean by stability. Bitcoin is known to have been very volatile ever since it originated. There has never been a time when the price was stable. The price can swing by thousands of dollars in a matter of days or in hours. Yesterday Bitcoin was $80 and today it was above $82k. But if you were referring to longevity, especially in terms of technicality. Then its sure counts for stability. Because it has been around for over a decade and continues to grow both in adoption and value. To date, it is still decentralized and has proven to be one of the best assets to invest in this era. However, it's a highly speculative asset and very unpredictable.

What am saying in essence here is that the stability of Bitcoin depends on what you think of it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong asking to know but I think the one Wolf of one street is obvious as he keeps on asking same questions instead of reading through this thread to catch up more of what this thread is all about.
As most newbies may not even know that the answers to their several questions is already in the previous pages of this thread unless they are been told we are all here to learn more but let not the questions always be repeating it self.

It would rather be better off to scroll pass some meneanless post including @wolf of the street and others who finds it hard to read thoroughly, but decide to jump into the middle of discussion talking some bla bla bla expecting attention. Sometimes silence and or ignoring some post is the way of letting them know they are not following up and this will make them DYOR and contribute meaningfully. Surely each of us are here to learn but there is a level of commitment we need to show for some folk to take us seriously.


I don't know how you see it @kelward, but no matter how you try to sugarcoat it altcoin are not better than each other, all are shitcoin. Bear it in mind that any coin aside bitcoin is a shitcoin no matter how good to be true they seem to appear and or how nicely people sees them.

We are not talking about "crypto" investing in this thread.


Who gives a shit if they are newbies or not? There are still needs for guys to attempt to construct ideas in their posts.

Sure, you can choose to give them a break all that you like in terms of your choice to "excuse their lack of knowledge" and spoon feed them to your hearts content. That's your choice.


Again, we are not talking about cryptocurrency and engaging in comparison contrast in this thread.  Yeah, sure you might want to convolute your ideas about bitcoin and/or try to sound smarter since you seem to understand that technically bitcoin is part of a larger subset blah blah blah.

Hopefully, for your own good (and your refusal to focus your ideas on bitcoin) you know the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins in order to realize that DCA does not necessarily work with shitcoins, and there likely is a need to engage in a decent amount of analysis of the shitcoin to figure out what the fuck it is, and then even if you might be able to kind of figure out what the shitcoin is, then at that point, if you do conclude that DCA might work with such shitcoin (or shitcoins), then you would likely be best to be figuring out some kind of a timing for that, and hope that you don't end up getting rug-pulled prior to your ability to make sure you get out of such crap.


You think bitcoin is guaranteed to go up in value?  Every cycle?  How did you arrive at that conclusion?  Do you also conclude that past performance guarantees future performance?  or do you have some other kind of perspective on the topic?


If you know that then why did you use the term "cryptocurrency" and then say that bitcoin is part of such group?  Are you trying to suggest that some shitcoins are worse than others?  Oh perhaps if you are saying "most" then at least more than half of them aren't any good, which since there are 10s of thousands of altcoins (or crypto) then surely you must be suggesting that some of them are not bad...   At least you did not end up going into trying to describe which ones might be less shitty than others... there might be some bonus there. Perhaps?


I have no problem with newbies asking a whole bunch of dumbass questions, especially since I think that this thread is open to everyone and also that many of us have been pretty damned receptive to both newbie ideas and also inevitably there is going to be (and there has been) a lot of repetition of topics, and surely I don't even have any problems with repetitions of topics.  It could be that I was merely having a bad moment when I responded to the seemingly dweeb @Wolf of One Street when he comes into the thread and appears to have done absolutely nothing except giving an assignment to other forum members to explain the whole fucking thread to him.  yeah, sure, if @Wolf of One Street had shown that he had done even a tiny bit of researching into the matter, besides proclaiming that he had "done a lot of thinking about it," then perhaps he might have triggered a wee bit less backlash in regards to the superficial triteness of his couple of posts, so far.

Good for you @Kelward that you want to defend him and to spoonfeed a seeming and possible troll. .that's your choice.  I am not going to proclaim that other members in this thread are saints in regards to their posts or their post contents because frequently we can see that some members are spouting out meaningless and non-contributory nonsense in their posts and not really saying anything meaningful, and surely on a personal level, I would rather not encourage such low effort and/or low value posts, even though several of us in this thread likely see that some of the posts of this thread fit into such category... which that is where @Wolf of One Street seems to fit.. at least so far in his short post history.. yet maybe he will step up his posting game a wee bit moar better, and figure out a way to read a bit or engage in a bit better preparations to formulate better posts.  Perhaps? perhaps?  I am not going to hold my breath in anticipation of such occurrence.

I agree with you that shitcoin is shitcoin because they are all duplicates of bitcoin and can never have the potentials of bitcoin. I looked at how bitcoin price was skyrocketing and looked at the shitcoins too, I realized that they cannot rise to the level of bitcoin price increase in % and that made we wonder why would people be so dumb to invest in such projects. In short, shitcoins will not last in the market and cannot be used as an investment, because they are better of for trading and gambling due to their short-term life span.

If you think of investing, let it be bitcoin because it is for a long term investment purpose, and has the possibility of multiplying your wealth in future if you throw some value into it and gradually build and grow your bitcoin portfolio overtime.

It is retarding how some people presume that some shitcoins are more shitty than the others shitcoins is shitcoins whichever way it is we shouldn't give any credit that some shitcoins are better than the others since they can not in any be compared with Bitcoin ,  it is a waste of time for any one attempting to figure out which shitcoins is better than the others, especially if we remember that they depend on Bitcoin for their performance, focusing on Bitcoin is just the best.

The term right shitcoin may sound some how misleading to newbie because they may perceive it that there are shitcoin that have the same potential as bitcoin or worth, so lt would be better we stick with the term shitcoin instead of right shitcoin to avoid any form of confusion why trying to  distinguish between bitcoin and shitcoin and i would advise newbie to focus on bitcoin accumulation because there is nothing like right shitcoin , shitcoin is shitcoin and they can never be compare to bitcoin.

Using DCA can be a very easy and efficient approach to long-term investing, especially if employing bitcoin. We can hence avoid the fluctuations in price because with DCA, our aim is to buy as many assets as possible over time. This means we are not so fixated with the current price, but we are more interested in the future possible use. Periodic buying is effective if you’re interested in investing in Bitcoin, although this will be far better than waiting or not investing in the first place.

However, while altcoins or “shitcoins” could appear to be enticing, all a majority of them seem to possess big risks when it comes to long-term investment. What we have in Bitcoin is an asset of far higher stability, that is also recognized as being a sound form of wealth. Eschewing the froth and picking our assets carefully is therefore a crucial decision because often when we decide to have a clear hierarchy of assets like Bitcoin over shitcoins then we are shielded from loss that is normally likely to emanate from pure speculation. Thus, once the option arrives, it is far more beneficial to invest in Bitcoin than to waste your time and fortune on the constant fluctuations and problems associated with shitcoins.

Of course it is very easy because you simply for now you just have to buy what you can buy and do it regularly regardless of the price because DCA's focus is clearly for the next few years or decades because so it doesn't matter what the current price is when you really want to try to buy bitcoin then do it because it will be better than nothing.

Saying shitcoin is easy sometimes actually this will actually be tricky because in the end being in shitcoin will actually make you indirectly tricked by conditions where you are trapped in endless hype which in the end this will actually harm yourself especially if the goal is long-term then shitcoin is clearly not the right choice so if the comparison is you are confused with bitcoin or shitcoin then at least you have a priority scale and of course bitcoin will be much more worth it than shitcoin.
 

Yeah you are right one should not use the word crypto because using such word when talking about Bitcoin is not right you are misleading them, this are the reasons why you see a newbie thinking that shitcoin and Bitcoin are the same, if you are discussing about Bitcoin don't use crypto in place of Bitcoin because if you do you have misled some newbies.
For clarity Bitcoin is different from crypto coin those crypto coin you see are also called shitcoins they are not same with Bitcoin.

I disagree with you when you said there is no best option when it comes to bitcoin investment, if a newbie goes into Bitcoin trading it won't be the best for him at that moment the best for him at that stage of his Bitcoin career is long term investment just buying and hodling, there are best options for Bitcoin investment if you choose the wrong part it may delay your accumulation journey for example waiting for dip.
Some people succeed in there Bitcoin investment and some didn't and those that didn't succeed there are people inside that failed because of wrong approach.

It's funny though I see it as unfortunate for some people because lack of understanding and wrong approach towards investing in Bitcoin has always been a problem for some investors, some people are very much obstructed the idea of buying when the price is dip but failing to understand that you can't be waiting for something that may not come easily or even happen as you assumed it to be, why will someone who is ready to invest in Bitcoin wait when there is good strategy that can enable us buy at ease and maintain it continuously as we can, every investor should have a target, an investor should try to be smart in other not to discontinue his investment plan, funds that are meant for Bitcoin investment should not be kept idle to wait until the dip before buying because there has never been a time they say we must buy during the dip, Bitcoin investment is a continues process as such no one should allow his or her instincts to deceive them.

If anyone wants to buy, I think the time is now once you are ready to go into the investment, another thing is the right approach which is consistency because it allows you to grow your portfolio slowly, steadily and smartly.
Buddy I love the points you made,  people who were waiting to buy when the price was lower than it's now and having the mindset that it will drop more and refusing to buy years back, I somuch believe that such indidviaus will be full of regret now, I think it's a bad idea to wait when we are suppose to buy and continue doing the needful instead waiting for something that may lead to regret, every bitcoiner mindset should be contered on long-term to enable us achieve plan on ways to achieve a bulky portfolio.

Don't assume that all newbies know that bitcoin is a long term investment because some of them come into this space for quick profits especially now that we are in a bull run that have seen bitcoin making new ATH. We should try as much as we can to give them the right information this time around because we have reached the point where there is unprecedented hype on social media about how new millionaires are about to be made through bitcoin. I saw a couple of such posts lately and the consequence of such posts is that many people are getting on board with money they cannot afford to keep in bitcoin for long with the mindset that bitcoin will make them rich overnight.

The right information is that bitcoin is a good investment option but the best way to go about bitcoin is to hold it for at least 4 years and above. Secondly, while investing in bitcoin, the investor must keep money to cover his basic needs out of bitcoin because such money are not supposed to be invested into bitcoin. In addition, some money should be set aside for emergency which include things that can come up during the investment period which were not planned for. This will help the investor not to sell his bitcoin to solve simple problems that emergency funs would have taken care of.

Don't you think you will still get them more confused by using the word Crypto as a newbie they might go astray by investing into the wrong coin thinking it is Bitcoin it could have been proper you say Bitcoin investment rather than crypto investment.

And I dont think it is much necessary to get all proper knowledge about the best option for Bitcoin investment before investing into Bitcoin and I don't think there is any best option as your options might not be some else options every investor has option that works for them.

You are in the right thread when it comes to starting your bitcoin investment. I can see you are a newbie, and I will advise you to use the DCA strategy in starting your bitcoin investment because it will allow you to consistently accumulate bitcoin without waiting for the price to drop. And since bitcoin is a long-term investment, I will advise you to use the money you will not need for 4-10 years or more to invest in bitcoin so that you will not depend on your bitcoin investment to survive. As for investing in shitcoins, I will not advise you to do that because you lack the experience and knowledge to spot the right shitcoins to invest in, and you will lose all your money if you invest in shitcoins.

You're not wrong to think deep, but sometimes instead of asking too much question it's better to just help yourself by going through the thread to find answers to  your questions, it may seem bulky but it's not necessary that you need to read through the whole to find answers to you seek, if you've atleast tried to read through the most recent page in this thread you'll understand that Bitcoin investment is like the subject matter and the DCA being a method of Bitcoin investment is talked about on several occasions if not everyday.

 You might be so eager to learn about Bitcoin investment and how to build a better portfolio but your question shows that you're not willing to study the thread and understand better as a newbie but rather repeating questions thats been treated in the past and stressing members to repeat the answers over and over, therefore I'll advise you take your time to study more than repeating questions that's quite easy to understand if only you take your time to study the thread.

If you have received good advice from OP, of course you also understand the topic title buy the dip and hodl which currently has so many discussions and good ideas born here. Now you yourself can make a wise enough step based on the advice you have received because you yourself can also imagine how happy the Bitcoin holders were who had bought since the price of $50K to $60K a few months ago. So you can also put yourself as a Bitcoin holder from now on so you can feel better pleasure in the future.

Whenever you visit any thread you should try and read, so that you will not draw people's back from the discussion they have already finished and this question is something that has been discussed for several months now, so it shouldn't be any difficult for you to slide a bit back on this thread you will see a lot of discussion about it even some other things that would be of a help since you are just starting and also it would have make sense if you had at least read somethings about DCA, so that we would no that you have tried your best then we can clarify you better but in this case you have not done anything and even if they explain it you may not still get it.