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January 19, 2024, 05:57:09 PM
Usually the best way to deal with fear is position size, so if you are trying to be aggressive with your BTC investment, you still likely have to not be so aggressive that you end up feeling uncomfortable... so ONLY you are going to be able to figure out that balance or even how much you might not want to say to others since your investment is your choice, but yeah, sometimes you want to share things with others close to you too. I know that I was called stupid by a lot of nocoiners and low coiners for 2-3 years and even more than that, because even when my BTC investment became profitable, I was called stupid for not cashing out in the big price rise of 2017, for example, and the same was true in the big price rise in 2021, why not cash out.  So people are going to second guess you and you can even end up showing that the investment continues to go up, and they will still say it is dumb..and what happened in the past cannot also guarantee future performance that is even going to be close to past performance, but that still might go to getting comfortable with a position size... and maybe no matter what there is going to be some discomfort in regards to whether you put in enough or if you might have put in too much...and I am not sure how long it takes for those feelings to go away or to be sufficiently reduced.. maybe with such  a volatile asset such as bitcoin that is almost inevitably going to continue to be volatile, uneasy feelings will never go away completely, but they can be put into some kind of a comfortable place that surely feels better when you are in profits as compared with being in losses, and even Michael Saylor (and MSTR) was in losses in regards to his bitcoin investment (with an investment average that was in the upper $20k and in the lower $30ks, depending on when you assessed his holdings) for a decent amount of time between mid-2022 and late 2023

I mostly don't care about what people would say with respect to this decision I've made, and if I end up on a profit or loss is not of their concerns too. From what you've said to me before now, which I'm standing on and I feel would work best not just as a strategy but also as a mindset, I would keep on buying and trying different things out until I've got that pattern that gives me that comfort and balance. And I plan not to go to aggressive till I end up in regret, cause I really want to hold, I'm not really looking for a short term profit from this action. If I'm able to keep on accumulating at a steady pace which I can increase as I know my numbers better and my emergency funds grow larger I believe I would still be at a the winning side on the long run, just that the only mistake I can minorly make is too end up accumulating a small percentage at a higher price when If I had given the market a different approach I would have end up accumulating even better.
And as continue to study your examples, I keep on seeing reasons why a good strategy and emergency funds can help me accumulate more for a lower average investment than even aggressively buying. And I believe as I continue to get acquitted with the experience, the feeling would reduce and confidence would replace fear. The fear or unease I'm feeling right now is coming totally form my lack of experience and when I get more experience, confidence would totally or I'll feel more comfortable with any challenge that comes my way.


I am not sure if I get exactly what you are saying, yet having a plan is very helpful and sometimes having some flexibility is helpful, too.  So yeah you can buy right away with some and then you can have some funds for buying on dip and also some funds that you add to your emergency fund, and once the emergency fund gets to a certain comfortable size, you likely would not need to keep adding to it, so then new money coming in would be able to dedicate to buying bitcoin DCA or holding for buying on dips.  I recall when I was having some cashflow problems in mid 2015, there were several times that I was getting some extra $20 or $100 or some other random amount, and so I had expenses, so usually when that money came in, then within a day, I would spend half of it on buying bitcoin (no matter when it was confirmed to come in, either hit my bank account or I would receive in cash), then then the other half would just go towards expenses, so at the end of the month or whenever my various expenses were coming due, I could reassess based on the half that was building up if I had anything left that I would be able to use for buying more bitcoin, otherwise that extra money would  just sit in my cash account an wait for various bills to come in and sometimes the certain bills would be expected to be a certain amount, and when they came in they might be more or less than expected, and some of the reserve funds would go to that if the bills were higher than expected, and if they were lower then expected then the money in that fund would be available for buying BTC... so yes, maybe you are saying something very similar, and after you practice such a thing several months, then you will get more used to what works for you and the ways that your cashflows are coming in.  My situation was different in 2015 than it had been in other times based on some problems that I had with a business partner at the time that caused me extensive uncertainties, expenses but then uncertainties in my cashflow too.
Now I get, I was initially thinking I would continue adding to my emergency fund like forever, that's why I've asked some time ago what's the use of emergency fund. Now I've got a clearer picture here. I think when I done building my emergency funds i would direct  that money for dip buys sunce it would put me at a better profit, since I'm actually buying BTC  at a lower price, I'll still adapt a little but flexibility so a little lump sum would not be that bad too with that extra going into my investment.

Well use whatever you are able to use.  I do find Excel to be very powerful to keep track.

But you could come up with various paper versions, even though the problem might be that you have to continuously rewrite everything once you change a variable or two.  One good thing about excel is that you change one or two variables and then all of the numbers will be adjusted accordingly, so sometimes you can have several different variations of similar things that help you to figure out various scenarios and to incorporate them with copy and paste..and maybe just change a few of the variables and get a whole different set of numbers that you can compare scenarios.
Thanks for the update, I'll start doing it now so i can get used to it. I guess having different senerios planned out and me tracking my progress in numbers would help me have a detailed documentation of where I am, where I aspire to be and where I'll be in a few months or so. This tracking process would really help me out in case I make mistakes I could know in details how I got there and I could easily analyse it and also learn from it. I guess this would be really fun. Starting to get fired up All over again.

Nothing wrong with that... You should be at a point that you are comfortable anyhow.. so if you start out with $25 per week even though you could do $100 per week, you might feel more comfortable, and even if you have $1k available that you could lump sum, maybe you decide to just lump sum $200 at some point that you are ready and to hold the other $800 in reserves.
Yeah my comfort is all that should matter to me, and having a good reserve for a start would keep me at peace in case the price start racing against me.

You also know more about yourself if you invest 3 months and then 6 months and the 9 months and then a year.  So as you are investing, you get to know yourself better..   you get to know your balances, and you become more informed about your investment, especially if you are having some troubles with the theory sinking in, after you have some of your own experiences, then you have some stronger reference points in which to compare what you did and where you are at and what you might do into the future based on what you did and also where you are at that had hopefully changed, especially if you are reassessing a year or even several years down the road... Sometimes it can seem that the progress is taking place so slowly, especially in the beginning the amounts might seem so low... but if your holdings are growing then maybe it still seems that the amount that you are adding is so small compared to your total investment, but you also realize that if you spend years and years and years adding certain amounts, the total starts to build and even what you added might end up having some compounding effects later down the road.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a step, although I'm not acquitted with the road, I'm ready to keep walking until I'm used to it. In essence it's all about having a steady investment into bitcoin that can continue for years than to go aggressively and end up not been able to continue and probably because of poor initial planning and just diving in with reading what the sign says on the road. I'm here so there are mistakes that I can be saved from when I share my problems.


It seems that we are potentially in an upward trend this year and next year, but sure that is not easy to know.  Probably the best that you can do is to project how much cash you are going to put into bitcoin rather than how much bitcoin that you will end up getting from that cash injection.

And with an Excel spreadsheet you could plot out the various kinds of scenarios in regards to your expected progress for this upcoming year, and 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 and maybe additional years.  Of course, you can do it on paper too, but it also seems to be one of those kinds of things that is constantly adjusting, which is one of the powers of the Excel spreadsheet, so you could even have some projected percentages of how much cash you might plan to spend to get BTC and also how much BTC you expect to get from each of the purchases, so you could have today's prices, and so as the price changes, the projections would change. .. so some scenarios might be BTC prices going down and others with BTC prices going flat and others with BTC prices going up, but I think that the most realistic is the scenarios of BTC prices going down, and so you might have some parts of thses projections that you change every month or whatever in order to project the future based on ongoing updates.

Wow neva thought of this. This is more accurate than the way I planned on using excel. That means I could plan up to even 10 years ahead putting numbers in place helping me to better guide my steps. With all this different senerio I'll be ready for anything that way I won't worry much about anything.
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January 19, 2024, 04:35:49 PM

Actually I no that every investors has there own strategy that favours them but however I would suggest that you shouldn't only focus on buying Bitcoin when it gets to $38k because there is no any certainty that Bitcoin price will drop to that price you intend to buy because the reason why I'm saying this is that I have seen numerous of investors who focus on buying Bitcoin only when it gets to a particular price and they waited for a long time and the price could not get to there intended points as such they missed all the opportunity they had on taking advantage and accumulate Bitcoin.
Waiting for Bitcoin to drop to $38k before buying can be risky because it's quite likely that Bitcoin might not go down to that specific price again. Instead, it could only dip to $40k and then start rising once more. This waiting game might cause you to miss out on the opportunity to accumulate Bitcoin for the entire year. Many people made this mistake when Bitcoin dropped to $20k; they expected further drops, kept waiting, and missed the chance to start buying. While getting Bitcoin at low prices is beneficial, waiting for an even deeper dip might not be a wise strategy.It's possible that the price may never reach the level you're aiming for, leading to missed opportunities and regret. It's important to strike a balance between waiting for a good price and seizing the opportunity when it arises.

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So actually instead of waiting for the Bitcoin price to get to $38k before you start accumulating you could use the strategy @Jay was suggesting, from my understanding he suggested that while we wait for the price of Bitcoin to dip before we can Lum sum that there should be a plan to have another separate funds that will enable us keep accumulating using normal DCA while we wait for Bitcoin price to dip to your expected price before you could Lum sum, so perhaps I will advise you use this method so that it will enable you have some amount of Bitcoin if should incase the price doesn't get to your expected points.

If you're thinking about buying Bitcoin and hoping for its price to go down to $38,000, there's no guarantee it will happen. Instead of waiting for this specific price drop, a smarter approach is to start buying a little bit of Bitcoin regularly, even at the current price. This method is called Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA). It means you invest a fixed amount of money at regular intervals, regardless of the current price. By doing this, you avoid the stress of trying to time the market perfectly.

Regardless of Bitcoin's present worth, building up a collection over time can be a wise move if you want to keep onto it for a very long time. By doing this, you may take advantage of Bitcoin's potential growth over time and create a more stable investment without having to worry as much about the cryptocurrency's short-term price swings.
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January 19, 2024, 03:50:56 PM
Actually I no that every investors has there own strategy that favours them but however I would suggest that you shouldn't only focus on buying Bitcoin when it gets to $38k because there is no any certainty that Bitcoin price will drop to that price you intend to buy because the reason why I'm saying this is that I have seen numerous of investors who focus on buying Bitcoin only when it gets to a particular price and they waited for a long time and the price could not get to there intended points as such they missed all the opportunity they had on taking advantage and accumulate Bitcoin.

So actually instead of waiting for the Bitcoin price to get to $38k before you start accumulating you could use the strategy @Jay was suggesting, from my understanding he suggested that while we wait for the price of Bitcoin to dip before we can Lum sum that there should be a plan to have another separate funds that will enable us keep accumulating using normal DCA while we wait for Bitcoin price to dip to your expected price before you could Lum sum, so perhaps I will advise you use this method so that it will enable you have some amount of Bitcoin if should incase the price doesn't get to your expected points.
I don't think it's a problem for them to wait for the cheapest price to accumulate Bitcoin, they can wait for $30k, $35K or $38k as you mentioned. Yes, they can make purchase entries at that price without disrupting regular purchases with DCA. I often implement more aggressive purchasing planning at a cheaper price level with funds that I focus on purchasing at the lowest price but that will not disrupt my planning in DCA at all, meaning that DCA continues to run at every stage.

For this reason, it is important to have USDT in your wallet which can be prioritized for buying at unexpectedly low prices, for example making a purchase entry at $20k or $30k. Yes, even though it takes time and it is even difficult to happen at the moment, we don't know if the market situation could suddenly change strongly. However, for those who don't do it DCA or they just buy all at once with a cheap entry, it will certainly require patience to see the price at the level they are targeting. But generally they will miss many opportunities if they continue to delay their purchase. Doubts should not exist for someone who is a loyal holder, meaning they continue to buy with DCA and also buy at the lowest price with the reserve funds they have planned.
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January 19, 2024, 03:22:55 PM
The 40k price level has been tested for several times, and the more often the price kisses or visits a support or resistance level, the weaker the level becomes, so I think we have right now another great opportunity to buy more Bitcoin, So, I have set some market orders way down to $38k should the price continues to dip down because $38k is another important level of support for the Bulls to fight, to try to push the price back up to continue the trend.
Actually I no that every investors has there own strategy that favours them but however I would suggest that you shouldn't only focus on buying Bitcoin when it gets to $38k because there is no any certainty that Bitcoin price will drop to that price you intend to buy because the reason why I'm saying this is that I have seen numerous of investors who focus on buying Bitcoin only when it gets to a particular price and they waited for a long time and the price could not get to there intended points as such they missed all the opportunity they had on taking advantage and accumulate Bitcoin.

So actually instead of waiting for the Bitcoin price to get to $38k before you start accumulating you could use the strategy @Jay was suggesting, from my understanding he suggested that while we wait for the price of Bitcoin to dip before we can Lum sum that there should be a plan to have another separate funds that will enable us keep accumulating using normal DCA while we wait for Bitcoin price to dip to your expected price before you could Lum sum, so perhaps I will advise you use this method so that it will enable you have some amount of Bitcoin if should incase the price doesn't get to your expected points.
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January 19, 2024, 02:16:51 PM
Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.
It is good idea  to have a longterm plan and not let small changes in the price affect your decisions. By doing this you can take advantage of the market and maybe get more Bitcoin. But it is important to know that it is hard to predict how long the price will stay low. It would be great if it stayed low for a week but the cryptocurrency market is always changing. It is good that you are optimistic and taking action to get more Bitcoin.
Here's the point, you want to take advantage of the DIP opportunity at $41K and then with the available capital then do it immediately don't let this price go high again before you buy DIP, it's discount time and won't be long.

But if you don't have money available for DIP then don't force it, let's continue DCA at any price as long as you are consistent all the time because the results will remain the same where you continue to fight for bitcoin with the first strategy, DCA.

So accumulate as many bitcoins as possible in any way and do not hamper you while you are still able to do it, if not your initial strategy it will be better.
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January 19, 2024, 01:45:11 PM
I agree with you, an emergency fund is very important, because it is something that must be paid attention to, there will be a situation where we will experience something sudden and of course it requires funds to overcome it, such as an accident or other things, so we have an emergency fund it will help us to overcome something that can happen suddenly. Of course, even though we have parents, it doesn't mean that the needs we need can be provided or fulfilled by our parents, at least we also have to have good thoughts, by not burdening our parents to fulfill our wishes.

If you have a fairly serious problem that must be resolved with finances that may be quite large, that doesn't mean you have to sell your bitcoin investment. because in my opinion, selling Bitcoin investments certainly cannot be done haphazardly, it must be done and carefully. If someone already has a business then in my opinion it is mandatory for them to think about an emergency fund and have one.
Therefore, before starting investment, prepare an emergency fund in advance for at least 3-6 months so that the reserve fund is safe when needed at any time, of course this will not interfere with your investment when in any emergency.

I always use this strategy because for us it is important about emergency funds, we are humans who will certainly require expenses and needs that we never expected in any case.
Never rely on parents means you don't have independence, if you are still in school then it is still the responsibility of the parents but if you have worked you yourself must be able to how to support yourself and start the investment because with the monthly salary you receive, for example, it is important to set aside on investment, especially bitcoin if you understand it.

Now when you have a problem in the sense that there must be greater expenses then the reserve fund can be relied on, your investment is safe will not be sold in the middle of the road, you can still continue investing in bitcoin when things are normal.

But when your finances are still healthy then continue your DCA to invest in bitcoin.

yes I agree with you, indeed in my own opinion even before launching or doing investment things, of course we must have funds that are really not funds for other things, the other side of the needs are well covered, as well as emergency funds that are safely under control, if indeed these two things can be resolved then to invest in BTC or others. And it's true, basically everyone will definitely need an emergency fund, because something that happens unexpectedly of course it can happen and to overcome it of course a fund is needed, and with the emergency fund that is owned of course it will help overcome things that happen unexpectedly. and also it helps the investment made so that it is not disturbed.

in my opinion it should be as a man to have a job and also a clear income, because later a man will become the head of the family where it really has to be prepared, and not to mention that we must have our own desires so that it must be realized by our own efforts, with the income earned we can make it happen. As long as you can manage your finances well I think it can be done, dividing income for basic needs and for desires as well as setting aside to invest, but it must also be done properly and with good knowledge because if you do it carelessly then it is the same as lying. as you said, bitcoin investment is one of them, if you really understand it. As usual, if you have invested in one of them Bitcoin, don't let it be disturbed by other things, so in my opinion all of these things are interrelated, where emergency funds can help the investment journey. so as not to be disturbed, and investment also helps us for the future.

I agree with you, an emergency fund is very important, because it is something that must be paid attention to, there will be a situation where we will experience something sudden and of course it requires funds to overcome it, such as an accident or other things, so we have an emergency fund it will help us to overcome something that can happen suddenly. Of course, even though we have parents, it doesn't mean that the needs we need can be provided or fulfilled by our parents, at least we also have to have good thoughts, by not burdening our parents to fulfill our wishes.

If you have a fairly serious problem that must be resolved with finances that may be quite large, that doesn't mean you have to sell your bitcoin investment. because in my opinion, selling Bitcoin investments certainly cannot be done haphazardly, it must be done and carefully. If someone already has a business then in my opinion it is mandatory for them to think about an emergency fund and have one.
Therefore, before starting investment, prepare an emergency fund in advance for at least 3-6 months so that the reserve fund is safe when needed at any time, of course this will not interfere with your investment when in any emergency.

I always use this strategy because for us it is important about emergency funds, we are humans who will certainly require expenses and needs that we never expected in any case.
Never rely on parents means you don't have independence, if you are still in school then it is still the responsibility of the parents but if you have worked you yourself must be able to how to support yourself and start the investment because with the monthly salary you receive, for example, it is important to set aside on investment, especially bitcoin if you understand it.

Now when you have a problem in the sense that there must be greater expenses then the reserve fund can be relied on, your investment is safe will not be sold in the middle of the road, you can still continue investing in bitcoin when things are normal.

But when your finances are still healthy then continue your DCA to invest in bitcoin.

However and in any case management must still be applied especially when it comes to finance, another thing is that I quite agree with the idea of your statement about how to have a good approach by having a balance in terms of finance and one of them is like setting up an emergency fund before you get involved in bitcoin accumulation.  This method is really recommended, especially especially for people who have medium or even below average finances, as the discussion this time that we will never know about what will happen in the future in our lives, it is very possible that we can experience unexpected things such as experiencing things that require emergency funds such as illness and require medical expenses, and obviously if we have not prepared an emergency fund at all, then obviously the more likely thing is that you will sell some of the bitcoins that you have and that you have maintained so far.

On the other hand, I think it may not be uncommon for investors to experience situations like this so that in the end there is no other way but to take or sell some of their bitcoins to solve problems in urgent situations. Therefore, planning is really a very important thing that must be prepared in advance such as preparing a number of things that are needed and one of them is like an emergency fund. Honestly there is absolutely no compulsion for anyone to get involved in bitcoin accumulation, if indeed you are still a schoolboy then I think this situation is not too appropriate for you to start getting involved, unless indeed you are already working and have your own salary and feel sufficient in terms of income then go ahead if you want to get involved in investing. Simply put if indeed you feel capable in terms of finance then please with a record of having a good understanding of the world of investment, my advice is not to focus too much on profits because after all investment is about profits and losses meaning you can profit and you can also lose and this can be one of the reasons why risk management is really a very important thing for a prevention or action to minimize.

Back to the original discussion that emergency funds are really needed to minimize the unexpected and this method will make you calmer and I think will not interfere with the DCA method that you are running, this is useful for maintaining and increasing the percentage of maximum profit at the end of planning and involvement.

it may happen,  but as @salad daging said before, before making an investment it is better to prepare an emergency fund in advance with a certain period of time, because this will certainly help deal with things that can happen suddenly such as illness that requires regular treatment as you said. as much as possible before making an investment, you must first prepare what must be prepared so that something unwanted does not happen such as selling the investment in the middle of the road, because in my opinion it is not the only option to overcome the things we discussed.

And as I said before,  it seems that investing is better done with money that is really not for anything else I mean the money used for investment is free money  not intended for anything else apart from that maybe there are some people who invest but don't prepare an emergency fund first,  so they just invest without thinking about the things they have to prepare first.

To be honest,  I think that if you invest but don't have an emergency fund in advance it is vulnerable to disruption of the investment made,  but it all comes back to yourself who has a choice,  and I'm sure we ourselves also have good thoughts so we will definitely do things that we think are good even if it's by selling investments in the middle of the journey,  if it's the best choice then there's nothing wrong with it.

I agree with you, an emergency fund is very important, because it is something that must be paid attention to, there will be a situation where we will experience something sudden and of course it requires funds to overcome it, such as an accident or other things, so we have an emergency fund it will help us to overcome something that can happen suddenly. Of course, even though we have parents, it doesn't mean that the needs we need can be provided or fulfilled by our parents, at least we also have to have good thoughts, by not burdening our parents to fulfill our wishes.

If you have a fairly serious problem that must be resolved with finances that may be quite large, that doesn't mean you have to sell your bitcoin investment. because in my opinion, selling Bitcoin investments certainly cannot be done haphazardly, it must be done and carefully. If someone already has a business then in my opinion it is mandatory for them to think about an emergency fund and have one.
Therefore, before starting investment, prepare an emergency fund in advance for at least 3-6 months so that the reserve fund is safe when needed at any time, of course this will not interfere with your investment when in any emergency.

I always use this strategy because for us it is important about emergency funds, we are humans who will certainly require expenses and needs that we never expected in any case.
Never rely on parents means you don't have independence, if you are still in school then it is still the responsibility of the parents but if you have worked you yourself must be able to how to support yourself and start the investment because with the monthly salary you receive, for example, it is important to set aside on investment, especially bitcoin if you understand it.

Now when you have a problem in the sense that there must be greater expenses then the reserve fund can be relied on, your investment is safe will not be sold in the middle of the road, you can still continue investing in bitcoin when things are normal.

But when your finances are still healthy then continue your DCA to invest in bitcoin.
This is what im actually doing because i have some past experiences on the time that you are really that in short of funds then you would likely be pulling out all of those investment that you have made even if the position
neither be negative or positive then since you dont have any choice then you would really be that pulling up those investments without having second thoughts. Sometime you would really be having that kind of emotion
and feeling that this is something that cant really be avoided. On the time that i do make our some realizations that there's should really be that back up funds on where it is really that dedicated for emergencies
or would really be with those sudden unexpected moments on which it might cause for us to have those kind of decisions.

Buy the DIP and Hold? Sounds pretty easy but on the time that you are dealing with a volatile market then it wouldnt really be that so easy on how you would really be having those
kind of experience along the path. The thing here is that you should really know on when to make DCA and when to secure profits on the right time but since we are
talking long term on here then it would be your own personal choice on when.

in my opinion if there is no choice but to withdraw all the investments that have been made it is not a problem, because there is no other choice apart from that, but in my opinion when we do not have an emergency fund but make investments and one emergency fund. One day I found something that really needed money to deal with, maybe we can take out a loan first, at least we don't live alone, there are family or relatives who might be able to help, even if we can't help, in my opinion, you can take a loan from the bank. Even though the risk is big, if we are sure that we can manage everything well again,  in the sense of being able to pay off the loan,  and still be able to retain the investment that has been made, in my opinion there is no problem. if like that. And like the experience you had, at that time did you not think in this direction? So you choose to withdraw the investment you have made, because that is the only option you have.

it's not easy to be able to do this one thing, because in my opinion it requires as well as strong consistency not everyone can do this,  but everyone can learn to do their best. because in my opinion bitcoin investment or others do require a long or long time whose purpose is to produce clear benefits and also really profitable. and with this long period of time that must be considered.

I agree with you, an emergency fund is very important, because it is something that must be paid attention to, there will be a situation where we will experience something sudden and of course it requires funds to overcome it, such as an accident or other things, so we have an emergency fund it will help us to overcome something that can happen suddenly. Of course, even though we have parents, it doesn't mean that the needs we need can be provided or fulfilled by our parents, at least we also have to have good thoughts, by not burdening our parents to fulfill our wishes.

If you have a fairly serious problem that must be resolved with finances that may be quite large, that doesn't mean you have to sell your bitcoin investment. because in my opinion, selling Bitcoin investments certainly cannot be done haphazardly, it must be done and carefully. If someone already has a business then in my opinion it is mandatory for them to think about an emergency fund and have one.
Therefore, before starting investment, prepare an emergency fund in advance for at least 3-6 months so that the reserve fund is safe when needed at any time, of course this will not interfere with your investment when in any emergency.

I always use this strategy because for us it is important about emergency funds, we are humans who will certainly require expenses and needs that we never expected in any case.
Never rely on parents means you don't have independence, if you are still in school then it is still the responsibility of the parents but if you have worked you yourself must be able to how to support yourself and start the investment because with the monthly salary you receive, for example, it is important to set aside on investment, especially bitcoin if you understand it.

Now when you have a problem in the sense that there must be greater expenses then the reserve fund can be relied on, your investment is safe will not be sold in the middle of the road, you can still continue investing in bitcoin when things are normal.

But when your finances are still healthy then continue your DCA to invest in bitcoin.
This is what im actually doing because i have some past experiences on the time that you are really that in short of funds then you would likely be pulling out all of those investment that you have made even if the position
neither be negative or positive then since you dont have any choice then you would really be that pulling up those investments without having second thoughts. Sometime you would really be having that kind of emotion
and feeling that this is something that cant really be avoided. On the time that i do make our some realizations that there's should really be that back up funds on where it is really that dedicated for emergencies
or would really be with those sudden unexpected moments on which it might cause for us to have those kind of decisions.

Buy the DIP and Hold? Sounds pretty easy but on the time that you are dealing with a volatile market then it wouldnt really be that so easy on how you would really be having those
kind of experience along the path. The thing here is that you should really know on when to make DCA and when to secure profits on the right time but since we are
talking long term on here then it would be your own personal choice on when.
Just like what @JJG said in his earlier post that, there are fours ways which an investor should prepare on when he wants to start his bitcoin accumulation, which are having plans to buy on the dip, lump summing and the superior of all the DCA method, and the fourth one is your emergency funds that will cover 3-6 months duration. The emergency funds is more important because if you don't have it ready, there is no way that you will succeed in your bitcoin accumulation journey. You will end up ruining it because you don't have what you will fall back on to use, when the unexpected and unforeseen challenges arises, which must be taken care of. This is why I make my emergency funds my priority as I am investing using the three methods to accumulate bitcoin depending on the rate of my cash inflow at that moment.

You are talking about taking profit while Dcaing, it means that you are killing the purpose of Dcaing, which is to increase your bitcoin portfolio during your accumulation stage. It is good to aim at long term profit and not short term profit so that you don't end up making wrong decisions that will lead to you regretting your actions through out the rest of your life. This is because there are mistakes that we take that we might not be able to correct anymore and they will live with us and it will be too late for us to do anything than regret.

Sell not but hodli and see that your investment is worth hodling for the future.

that's right, besides being able to help with investments made, emergency funds are also indeed important in our lives. and also with the four points  you conveyed, I think it should all be considered well prepared, especially with emergency funds that we can do. because even though someone does not invest, but if they already have a clear income then they must have an emergency fund. the purpose is to overcome things that happen suddenly. I hope everyone can look at this one thing that is indeed important in life even though they don't invest.

 I think everyone who invests of course they are aiming for big profits, but behind that what must be considered is our ability to run it, will we be able to hold it for a long time or not. because to make a big profit it may indeed take a long time, not short-term profits like you said. also by investing everything must be considered including the steps that will be taken, considering everything well so as not to take the wrong step and then regret for life like you said it, because with a lack of consideration of something in my opinion it will indeed produce something that is less than optimal or worse maybe bad.
because I think we should be able to hold it well, not sell it because of poor readiness.

I agree with you, an emergency fund is very important, because it is something that must be paid attention to, there will be a situation where we will experience something sudden and of course it requires funds to overcome it, such as an accident or other things, so we have an emergency fund it will help us to overcome something that can happen suddenly. Of course, even though we have parents, it doesn't mean that the needs we need can be provided or fulfilled by our parents, at least we also have to have good thoughts, by not burdening our parents to fulfill our wishes.

If you have a fairly serious problem that must be resolved with finances that may be quite large, that doesn't mean you have to sell your bitcoin investment. because in my opinion, selling Bitcoin investments certainly cannot be done haphazardly, it must be done and carefully. If someone already has a business then in my opinion it is mandatory for them to think about an emergency fund and have one.
Always having the concept of the thread in mind which is learning various strategies of accumulating Bitcoin for longer time will maximize best understanding, of which having an emergency fund is a key factor that should be infact be prioritize because it does not only help an investor to hold on to his investment it also help from not borrowing in an emergency which at most time attract interest fee at payback time. Bitcoin is in it's journey to the permanent cite it's limited in nature makes it very unique, is a store of value and wealthy. Bitcoin investment is a long time investment that any one venturing in to it should know in other to obtain what should be obtainable. Having an emergency fund will definitely make an investor hold more longer than planned. Hold as long as you can.

to be able to produce the best of course we have to do the best, and by learning every aspect related to investment it is a must, because it is impossible to invest without the slightest knowledge, it is like trapping a crocodile with a mouse trap that certainly will not work. and even though learning things that are supposed to take a long time, it is not a problem. because if someone has the desire and with strong ambition then I think they will not care about the length of time they have to learn many related things.

I agree with you bro, having an emergency fund will help us to be able to hold on longer, because as @Salad daging has said above, by having an emergency fund, of course the investment will not be disturbed so that way we can still run it well to be able to reach the peak that is targeted. because indeed a profitable investment is a long-term investment, but not everyone can do this, because it takes patience and strong consistency to be able to do this well.
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January 19, 2024, 12:29:03 PM
Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!
"I'm not sure how low" , this is the problem with buying the dip. The confusion, the anxiety, the FOMO and all manner of unrest are what make me so uncomfortable with buying the dips. You could buy $42,000 and price drop further to $40,000 and further to $38,000 and even more. In this case, which is the real dip and when will it stop going down? This seem complicated for those of us trying to have a hang of this.
Buying at the dip is a good way to buy bitcoin in discount and you will get more profit, the moment bitcoin price surges high. This is why an investor needs to make a proper plan and prepare himself to buy at the dip and even when the price is up. This is done by placing a buy order for you to follow when bitcoin price goes up or down. For instance, you can say that if bitcoin price is $41k, you buy $150 and if it falls to $40k-$39k, you buy $200 worth of bitcoin. In this way you can also reduce your buy order when the price is increasing as so on. However everybody can sort out how to go about this based on their own situation.

My personal experience has been that if the BTC price has gone up a lot, then I end up accumulating a lot of cash, and I am not saying that would necessarily be the case for someone who is newer to bitcoin because you probably would mostly be accumulating BTC so you might not accumulate as much cash.  Yet, if some reason you have been building a reserve in order to buy BTC when the price dips, my experience has been that I have tended to be someone aggressive towards the beginning of the dip (even if I might try to wait for a 10% or more dip before I start buying), but then if the dip continues, I tend to be running out of money because I am buying mostly from my reserves and as the dip keeps happening my reserves become more and more depleted.  So at some point, I can see that I will run out of money if the BTC price dips below a certain price, so I end up having to lower the amount of my buys rather than increase them becuase of the running out of money problem and that running out of money problem can exist in a lot of circumstances that are even less than 50% price dips, but even something like June 2022 when the BTC price went below the 200-week moving average, I had already been reestablishing my budget so my buy amounts were already becoming smaller and smaller, and even when we had the later in the year dip from $20k-ish and down to $15,479, sure i bought some BTC, but I still felt that I could not completely exhaust whatever reserves I had at that time, because late 2022 or even early 2023, none of us could really know if that BTC price bottom was in yet or not.. and maybe we did not really start to feel like the bottom was in until much later into 2023, even though there still could have had been questions about the bottom or even how much to prepare ourselves with keeping some reserves in terms of how much the BTC price might still continue to drop, so even if the BTC price might start going back up, we are still likely going to continue to have some reserves that do not end up getting used, which seems to be a good thing, even though it is not putting that money to work.

Buying at the dip can also be done by saving any extra money that you have unexpectedly, like bonuses from work or traveling allowance e.t.c, so that when the dip comes, you can take advantage of it. Another way is that if you are DCAing $100 weekly, you can cut it to $70, and save $30 for buying at the dip. As a newbie in your early stage of accumulation, it is better to continue with DCA, and as time goes on when you have the strong believe on bitcoin, you can set a strategy that will enable to have the opportunity to buy at the dip, lump sum along side with your regular weekly or monthly DCA.

This is the opportunity to buy bitcoin aggressively, if you have the money but don't overdo it so that it doesn't affect you later when you go and tamper with your emergency funds.

These are all good points regarding potential ways to deal with possible cash shortfalls and uncertainties regarding how far the BTC price will drop and how long such drop is going to last.

Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
The 40k price level has been tested for several times, and the more often the price kisses or visits a support or resistance level, the weaker the level becomes, so I think we have right now another great opportunity to buy more Bitcoin, So, I have set some market orders way down to $38k should the price continues to dip down because $38k is another important level of support for the Bulls to fight, to try to push the price back up to continue the trend.

What trend?  You are talking about some kind of bullshit short-term trend that may or may not exist?  I doubt that there is very many questions to doubt the trend that we are already in even if we are currently experiencing a correction that is so far only slightly more than 20%.

The most major trend is that between late 2021 and late 2022 we went from $69k to $15,479, and then from late 2022 to now we have largely been going up (even though we might not have realized that we were going up until around mid-2023 or even not until late 2023 might we started to feel more comfortable that we are most likely in an uptrend that started from late 2022), and so it would be hard to believe that we are stopping from going up, even if we may well have various degrees of correction along the way, and even if we were to go back down to $25k.. seems like a BIG so what?  The trend is up, and don't get me wrong, I have my doubts that $25k is likely, even though it is not impossible to happen... but if we are largely longer term BTC holders and even BTC accumulators, we should always be attempting to prepare ourselves (Financially and psychologically) for both directions at the same time, including potential extremes that could end up happening.
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Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.

The recent price drop is indeed very important to take advantage of, especially for those who are trying to collect more Bitcoin at $41K. Because I think the current decline will not last too long in Bitcoin because there are still some good influences for the next price increase this month even though it happens more slowly. However, I believe that the price decline will not be that long in Bitcoin, because the influence of the large number of buyers can also be a real factor in the next price increase which will make the market turn green again this month.

Here we will hold Bitcoin for the long term, here we will determine the price by following the DCA method of investing for the long term. If we buy bitcoin at current price of 41k, again if bitcoin price is 44k we will buy here as usual. We will average between these two prices and thus save our investment.
It is your complete misconception that we don't care about short term investments. You don't know every investor's plan or what every investor is planning with his investment or what is in his mind but you don't know. You can say whatever is on your mind or what you have planned. It is an investor's sole decision to hold that investment.  
Here we only express our opinion and discuss the things which are right and the method of investing which will make investment easy and long term investment or what can be done by long term investment. We are only discussing here but someone's personal matter but we cannot decide. I think investing in DCA method is reliable for you, many may not like this method, it's a personal matter.

We never think of short term investment, more long term investment the more we can grow wealth. Evolve your thinking, ditch short-term investments, and embrace long-term investments.

We cannot prohibit anyone from investing like this. You are directly telling us to never invest in short term plans. With your words like this, if an investor refrains from investing according to his wishes and invests according to your words, and if he is not satisfied by investing according to your words, will you take responsibility for that investment? It is not necessary for you that an investor must invest in you for a long period of time. If you are not in favor of short term investment then you can discuss long term investment.

Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
The 40k price level has been tested for several times, and the more often the price kisses or visits a support or resistance level, the weaker the level becomes, so I think we have right now another great opportunity to buy more Bitcoin, So, I have set some market orders way down to $38k should the price continues to dip down because $38k is another important level of support for the Bulls to fight, to try to push the price back up to continue the trend.
You placed an order at $38,000 which means you will start investing when the Bitcoin price is at $38,000. You have placed an order at $38,000, now the price of Bitcoin is slightly above $40,000, that is, the price of Bitcoin is not far from your order, but the main thing is whether Bitcoin will break the support of $40,000. If there is a strong support at $40,000, Bitcoin will keep going up again after hitting $40,000 and your investment will never be complete. You confirm with us how you are investing, if you want to invest a lot of money at once you can wait up to 38 thousand dollars or if you think you can hire a small amount without investing a lot of money at once.  In that case you can start your investment even from this market condition. It is often said that there is no point in stressing over small price differences when investing in a long-term plan.  
In the long run, your purchase price will never have that much difference in future value.
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The 40k price level has been tested for several times, and the more often the price kisses or visits a support or resistance level, the weaker the level becomes, so I think we have right now another great opportunity to buy more Bitcoin, So, I have set some market orders way down to $38k should the price continues to dip down because $38k is another important level of support for the Bulls to fight, to try to push the price back up to continue the trend.

There was so much hype in the market that ETFs are coming and we will see new ATH in 2024. The ETFs till now fail to have any major impact on Bitcoin price. I am one of those who were not much interested in ETFs because they are not part of the decentralisation concept proposed by Satoshi.
This thread is about buy the DIP and HODL. So its best time to buy as we have a dip. What we have seen so far in this thread is that price will go up and down, we have to define a strategy by which we will be accumulating our bitcoins. The best is to go with DCA manner and keep accumulating. If you are accumulating for long term then such pumps and dumps wont affect you.
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January 19, 2024, 11:27:10 AM
Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
The 40k price level has been tested for several times, and the more often the price kisses or visits a support or resistance level, the weaker the level becomes, so I think we have right now another great opportunity to buy more Bitcoin, So, I have set some market orders way down to $38k should the price continues to dip down because $38k is another important level of support for the Bulls to fight, to try to push the price back up to continue the trend.
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January 19, 2024, 11:23:24 AM
Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!
"I'm not sure how low" , this is the problem with buying the dip. The confusion, the anxiety, the FOMO and all manner of unrest are what make me so uncomfortable with buying the dips. You could buy $42,000 and price drop further to $40,000 and further to $38,000 and even more. In this case, which is the real dip and when will it stop going down? This seem complicated for those of us trying to have a hang of this.
Buying at the dip is a good way to buy bitcoin in discount and you will get more profit, the moment bitcoin price surges high. This is why an investor needs to make a proper plan and prepare himself to buy at the dip and even when the price is up. This is done by placing a buy order for you to follow when bitcoin price goes up or down. For instance, you can say that if bitcoin price is $41k, you buy $150 and if it falls to $40k-$39k, you buy $200 worth of bitcoin. In this way you can also reduce your buy order when the price is increasing as so on. However everybody can sort out how to go about this based on their own situation.

Buying at the dip can also be done by saving any extra money that you have unexpectedly, like bonuses from work or traveling allowance e.t.c, so that when the dip comes, you can take advantage of it. Another way is that if you are DCAing $100 weekly, you can cut it to $70, and save $30 for buying at the dip. As a newbie in your early stage of accumulation, it is better to continue with DCA, and as time goes on when you have the strong believe on bitcoin, you can set a strategy that will enable to have the opportunity to buy at the dip, lump sum along side with your regular weekly or monthly DCA.

This is the opportunity to buy bitcoin aggressively, if you have the money but don't overdo it so that it doesn't affect you later when you go and tamper with your emergency funds.
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January 19, 2024, 11:18:50 AM
You must live in a small world, or you have been overly influenced by "trading" talking points.

People talk about building and passing down generational wealth, so that is not about exiting, but instead about building, accumulating and maintaining pristine assets.

If you build enough of them, then you either do not have to sell any of them, or the wealth generates other kinds of income and you live off the income from the other cashflows that are generated.  
Honestly JJG, I'm overwhelmed with your response. Your influence and guidance in my Bitcoin accumulation journey can be greatly felt. Just like a naivete I was thinking in every investment there is to be an exist from it but then I was wrong. You are more of an eye opener in this forum.
Exactly! You are right I also read his posts carefully and he give more and more knowledge. I like his style of typing most precious thing is that he gives examples. With these examples we Understand that what is the point and what is he want to say.
He writes a point briefly which shows everything. I mostly see when anyone has a point or he/she is on wrong side JJG try to his best to teach him/her. I mostly visit his post history and chech what is he saying and why is he saying to get more knowledge from him. Smiley
And it just shows how JayJuanGee is knowledgeable as far as Bitcoin investing is. This guy literally help us on how to manage our funds, like accumulating and building generational wealth. And it's not just for us though, sure we can be rich through our Bitcoin investments and it will make us feel great. But if we can built wealth today and then passed it on from generations to generations, then we can make their lives, the lives of our kids or even grandkids be better by doing some actions today, requires intentional financial planning, investment strategies, and a focus on creating a legacy that extends beyond the current generation. And with JJG helps and others well informed members here, asking for their guidance and sharing it and even correcting us from time to time so that we won't waste time, it's already a blessing being here in the community with this great mentor, in my opinion.

That is an interesting point about building legacy and/or wanting to pass down wealth versus figuring out ways to use the wealth by the end of our life times.  Surely there are some people who have clear targets, such as heirs or even a legacy in which wealth is passed down, but sometimes even rich people might have limits in terms of how much wealth they would like to pass down to their children, because they are concerned about their children's ability to build character and not to take their wealth for granted.

There are also surely some people who want to try to consume all of their wealth, but they want to also live a good life while they are still alive, so a goal may well be to NOT outlive your wealth and/or to try to use it all but still have plenty until the end.  Those seem to be difficult to achieve balances, so many folks who actually become somewhat wealthy who fear outliving their wealth end up erroring on the side of maintaining a decently -sized financial cushion so that they never have to live in poverty - yet since death cannot exactly be timed, they may frequently end up kicking the bucket prior to being able to use the wealth... but I am not going to suggest all cases end up in that kind of way because any of us likely would have to have a lot of wealth in order to be able to pay for some of the health care expenses that exist in places like the USA .. so I would imagine that those who do not end up with those kinds of medical expenses towards the end of their lives end up having a greater financial cushion when they end  up dying because part of the reason that they keep the extra financial cushion is to prepare for some of that unknown end of life medical expenses situation.

Which then also might bring us back to BTC, and wouldn't it seem crazy to have large portions of your wealth in BTC if you are potentially needing a lot of liquidity within less than a 4-year period, and bitcoin has not been around long enough to really reach a lot of the cases in which already old people have been investing into it, so anyone who might initially be investing into bitcoin might not want to completely eliminate bitcoin from their investment portfolio, even if they might not be able to guarantee less than a 4-year investment timeline, but they should be reducing rather than increasing their BTC exposure amount if they are not sure about how liquid that they might need to be within less than a 4-year timeline..... so anyone who might be in his late 60s, 70s, or later, or someone who has health conditions that leave uncertain his ability to live without great expenses, he might have to be more modest in his BTC investment, even though he might get lucky and not end up needing his BTC investment within the next 4 years or longer.

Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.

That is the thing about the dip and the length of time of the dip, we cannot know how far it will go or how long it will last.

Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
The market is now at $41000 but there are many investors who are waiting for the market to come below $40K. If investors pledge to come below 40k then they might miss out on investing now. The market broke out of the barrier of $41K and went down, but the market did not last long, and soon the market went back above $41K. There isn't much difference between $40K and $41K when it comes to long-term investing. If a person invests one bitcoin the dollar difference will be one thousand dollars but most investors will not invest one btc at the same time. If under $40k is a good time to invest then I would say $41k is not a bad time to invest either.  Investors invested $30K $40K and a maximum of $48K.

You have already addressed your own dilemma that you set forth in terms of people do not tend to buy 1 BTC at a time, even though so many people commit the error or thinking in terms of whole bitcoin units...so maybe it is difficult to blame you for an error that so many folks make, especially bitcoin newbies.  Maybe the longer that any of us are in bitcoin, the more that we get used to some of the ideas of thinking in terms of a fraction of a bitcoin, and of course another solution is to talk in terms of satoshis, but even in bitcoin-related circles like this here particular thread, there are not very many instance in which we are even talking in terms of satoshis.. even though satoshis might be easier in terms of it being at least positive numbers rather than various numbers of decimal places... so maybe even if we were talking about bitcoin, we might refer to a real large investment into bitcoin being 0.25 BTC or more at a time (which is right around $10k), or more realistically maybe we would move the decimal place to be talking about 0.025 BTC or 0.0025 BTC, which would be right around $1,000 and $100 respectively.
 
Investors have invested step by step but no one has done wrong by investing. Those who bought bitcoins during relatively high prices will probably sell bitcoins at relatively high prices, there will be demand to sell as much as to buy. Those who are waiting for the investment of forty thousand dollars can invest according to the current market if they want. I hope that your investment opportunity will not be missed.
It wasn't like that for me to begin with:
Let's say I have a $1000 reserve fund, it will remain undisturbed until I need it again in another emergency.
When you start investing, you will start from scratch, no need to take $300 from the reserve fund.
Let's say I start again from $20/$50/$100 per week/month depending on income, well then this will be more for me practically this investment will continue to grow while I still continue to do DCA all the time so the emergency fund remains safe while the investment is still running until now.

When there is already a reserve fund, you will feel very safe when other things are needed, now it only remains for you to play how aggressive the level of DCA is every week it also depends on you managing it well if 30% of the monthly salary is invested in bitcoin I think it is more than enough while the rest you can use in your expenses even you can add 5% to the reserve fund, but for me it is enough if the emergency fund is enough to last for 6 months.
Reserve money means not spending that money all the time and spending that money for extra needs. Amount of money for investment is different and reserve currency is different. The investor will use the reserve currency when he is unable to invest regularly. For example, an investor is regularly investing $50 or $100 every week or every month, but due to excessive demand for money, it is not possible for that investor to invest that amount of money at that time every month or week, then that investor will get the benefit of investing by using money from his reserve. Thus, after investing from the reserve currency, when the additional financial needs of the investor are met, he can make up the amount that he used for investment from his reserve currency later.  

Although most investors do not keep reserves in their investments, it is definitely necessary in their investments. If you suddenly stop investing after investing for a few days, then you no longer have the same mindset to invest later. That is why it is very important to keep money in reserve so that the investment mindset is maintained properly and if you keep a reserve, the investment will definitely be much stronger.

These are good points about the potential of having a reserve fund that ideally should be separate from your emergency fund, and so in times like these, we can see why there is some power in having a reserve fund - whether it is used for buying BTC dips or if it is used merely to have some psychological comfort that you have some extra money available, even if the BTC price has so far dropped in the ballpark of greater than 20% from its latest local top of $49,048 on January 11th.   

Again, how much of dip are we going to get, and how long it will last is still to be determined, and so it is way better to have a problem in regards to how to use the reserve fund that we have already created rather than either not having one, or having a deficiently-sized one, so for example if we have a $1.6k per month income, a weekly DCA of $100 per week, an emergency fund that is $6k (6 months assuming $1k per month of expenses), and we have another $1.6k in a reserve fund, we might already have some ideas about how we are going to spend our reserve fund or how much of it we are going to use at certain BTC price dips, but we still might play it by ear in terms of if we might not have any exact plan for how to spend the reserve fund yet our emergency fund is also robust... and maybe if we are still thinking about the matter, then we just continue with our weekly DCA.and maybe we throw in a bit extra from our reserve fund to double or weekly DCA so that we are not necessarily using it all at once while we are contemplating whether we might want to lump sum some additional purchases or if we just maybe act more incrementally in terms of the changes that we make.. including considering that what we do may well have to do with our already preparations with our own place in regards to the 9 individualized factors.

The recent price drop is indeed very important to take advantage of, especially for those who are trying to collect more Bitcoin at $41K. Because I think the current decline will not last too long in Bitcoin because there are still some good influences for the next price increase this month even though it happens more slowly.
actually with the Bitcoin ranging between $40, 854 and $45k is actually the right moment to take advantage of this great opportunity by starting accumulating immediate because if you can remember sometime ago when the Bitcoin was moving similarly as what is doing now such as ranging between $22k to $26k and most investors refuses to take advantage of the price thinking it will drop more before they could start buying and before they realizes themselves Bitcoin has moved to $30k and they were still thinking it will fall until they saw Bitcoin at $45k+ that's when they no that they actually missed a good buying opportunity, however is not actually late for them to start accumulating Bitcoin because it has presented another buying opportunity for them because it has falling from $45k down to $40,854 now so perhaps they should stop expecting more dip and start buying because there is every chances that the next move of Bitcoin will actually be positive one and also considering the upcoming halving there is a great possibility of Bitcoin surpasses the All-time high and creating another one, so let's stop waiting for dip before accumulating.

Let's go back to the person who had already created both an emergency fund of 6 months and a reserve fund of $1.6k.  He may already have an agenda because in the process of building an emergency fund and a reserve fund, he might have had some ideas about how he might use the reserve fund, so it is quite possible, that he already started buying BTC with his reserve fund at $45k or something like that, so maybe every $1,500 the BTC price drops, he buys another $100, so if he had $1.6k, then he would have 16 possible buy orders at $100 per buy order, and of course, there are a variety of other kinds of ways to divide the reserve fund, including considering that using it at various triggering points might take time to play out, and maybe he is earning money at the same time, so some of the money of the reserve fund might get replenished depending on how long it might take for a dip to play out, whether he gets paid weekly, twice a month, monthly or some other intervals.
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January 19, 2024, 11:10:06 AM
actually with the Bitcoin ranging between $40, 854 and $45k is actually the right moment to take advantage of this great opportunity by starting accumulating immediate because if you can remember sometime ago when the Bitcoin was moving similarly as what is doing now such as ranging between $22k to $26k and most investors refuses to take advantage of the price thinking it will drop more before they could start buying and before they realizes themselves Bitcoin has moved to $30k and they were still thinking it will fall until they saw Bitcoin at $45k+ that's when they no that they actually missed a good buying opportunity, however is not actually late for them to start accumulating Bitcoin because it has presented another buying opportunity for them because it has falling from $45k down to $40,854 now so perhaps they should stop expecting more dip and start buying because there is every chances that the next move of Bitcoin will actually be positive one and also considering the upcoming halving there is a great possibility of Bitcoin surpasses the All-time high and creating another one, so let's stop waiting for dip before accumulating.
Any new investor to Bitcoin who would like to invest right now while the price is at $40,000 and above, and the person is financially capable will have to show extra commitment by dedicating a higher amount of money to DCA so they can catch up with the number of people that have already invested. Waiting for a dip means wasting more time when you are already not early, and that is not wise. With the consistent strategy of DCA, you will not need to care so much about the price of bitcoins before you invest.
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January 19, 2024, 10:45:39 AM
The recent price drop is indeed very important to take advantage of, especially for those who are trying to collect more Bitcoin at $41K. Because I think the current decline will not last too long in Bitcoin because there are still some good influences for the next price increase this month even though it happens more slowly.
actually with the Bitcoin ranging between $40, 854 and $45k is actually the right moment to take advantage of this great opportunity by starting accumulating immediate because if you can remember sometime ago when the Bitcoin was moving similarly as what is doing now such as ranging between $22k to $26k and most investors refuses to take advantage of the price thinking it will drop more before they could start buying and before they realizes themselves Bitcoin has moved to $30k and they were still thinking it will fall until they saw Bitcoin at $45k+ that's when they no that they actually missed a good buying opportunity, however is not actually late for them to start accumulating Bitcoin because it has presented another buying opportunity for them because it has falling from $45k down to $40,854 now so perhaps they should stop expecting more dip and start buying because there is every chances that the next move of Bitcoin will actually be positive one and also considering the upcoming halving there is a great possibility of Bitcoin surpasses the All-time high and creating another one, so let's stop waiting for dip before accumulating.
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January 19, 2024, 08:58:34 AM
Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.
That means you have held your investment for a long time and you are a consistent investor. Currently the price of Bitcoin is falling then you are not excited but you are happy that you will get an opportunity to invest more amount of money at a comparatively lower price. You can consider such investment method as DCA investment method. Where other investors get excited after investing why their investment is losing, you are not worried about the loss but you are trying to take advantage of this period as well. If you have enough financial support, you must take advantage of these opportunities. If your investment does not have a fixed target, you can set a fixed target for your investment. A specific target is how consistently you will invest and how long you will hold your investment. If the target is fixed in advance, it will be easier for you to invest regularly and it will be easier to hold your investment for a long time. Actions without a plan are usually haphazard, so if you don't have a plan for your investments, make a proper plan.  

As construction of any big architecture requires planning in advance and long term investment is not less than any big architecture so here we should have proper and permanent planning.

Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.
It is good idea  to have a longterm plan and not let small changes in the price affect your decisions. By doing this you can take advantage of the market and maybe get more Bitcoin. But it is important to know that it is hard to predict how long the price will stay low. It would be great if it stayed low for a week but the cryptocurrency market is always changing. It is good that you are optimistic and taking action to get more Bitcoin.
The investor is asked to take risk in investing as the price cannot be determined in advance. It is difficult to tell whether the price will be positive or negative throughout the week. But I agree with what you said first that one shouldn't get excited over small price changes. If there is a positive change in the value of the coin after investing, then it is good, but even if there is a negative change, it is not bad at all, but should we take that negative change as an opportunity. For example, when the price of Bitcoin was 40 thousand dollars, I invested in one step and later the market fell to 38 thousand dollars and if it is possible to invest at that time, then it is investing in some difference in price. As a result of investing in this way, if the market goes to 42 thousand dollars, but the amount of profit will be relatively high.
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January 19, 2024, 08:38:41 AM
Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.

The recent price drop is indeed very important to take advantage of, especially for those who are trying to collect more Bitcoin at $41K. Because I think the current decline will not last too long in Bitcoin because there are still some good influences for the next price increase this month even though it happens more slowly. However, I believe that the price decline will not be that long in Bitcoin, because the influence of the large number of buyers can also be a real factor in the next price increase which will make the market turn green again this month.

Here we will hold Bitcoin for the long term, here we will determine the price by following the DCA method of investing for the long term. If we buy bitcoin at current price of 41k, again if bitcoin price is 44k we will buy here as usual. We will average between these two prices and thus save our investment. We never think of short term investment, more long term investment the more we can grow wealth. Evolve your thinking, ditch short-term investments, and embrace long-term investments.
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January 19, 2024, 07:58:06 AM
Another DIP buying opportunity might be coming! I'm not sure how low, or if this correction continues to fall under $40,000, but buying some Bitcoin with any sort of discount should definitely be "greeted" with open arms. Don't miss the opportunity!

Buy the DIP, and HODL!
The market is now at $41000 but there are many investors who are waiting for the market to come below $40K. If investors pledge to come below 40k then they might miss out on investing now. The market broke out of the barrier of $41K and went down, but the market did not last long, and soon the market went back above $41K. There isn't much difference between $40K and $41K when it comes to long-term investing. If a person invests one bitcoin the dollar difference will be one thousand dollars but most investors will not invest one btc at the same time. If under $40k is a good time to invest then I would say $41k is not a bad time to invest either.  Investors invested $30K $40K and a maximum of $48K.  

Investors have invested step by step but no one has done wrong by investing. Those who bought bitcoins during relatively high prices will probably sell bitcoins at relatively high prices, there will be demand to sell as much as to buy. Those who are waiting for the investment of forty thousand dollars can invest according to the current market if they want. I hope that your investment opportunity will not be missed.


It wasn't like that for me to begin with:
Let's say I have a $1000 reserve fund, it will remain undisturbed until I need it again in another emergency.
When you start investing, you will start from scratch, no need to take $300 from the reserve fund.
Let's say I start again from $20/$50/$100 per week/month depending on income, well then this will be more for me practically this investment will continue to grow while I still continue to do DCA all the time so the emergency fund remains safe while the investment is still running until now.

When there is already a reserve fund, you will feel very safe when other things are needed, now it only remains for you to play how aggressive the level of DCA is every week it also depends on you managing it well if 30% of the monthly salary is invested in bitcoin I think it is more than enough while the rest you can use in your expenses even you can add 5% to the reserve fund, but for me it is enough if the emergency fund is enough to last for 6 months.
Reserve money means not spending that money all the time and spending that money for extra needs. Amount of money for investment is different and reserve currency is different. The investor will use the reserve currency when he is unable to invest regularly. For example, an investor is regularly investing $50 or $100 every week or every month, but due to excessive demand for money, it is not possible for that investor to invest that amount of money at that time every month or week, then that investor will get the benefit of investing by using money from his reserve. Thus, after investing from the reserve currency, when the additional financial needs of the investor are met, he can make up the amount that he used for investment from his reserve currency later.  

Although most investors do not keep reserves in their investments, it is definitely necessary in their investments. If you suddenly stop investing after investing for a few days, then you no longer have the same mindset to invest later. That is why it is very important to keep money in reserve so that the investment mindset is maintained properly and if you keep a reserve, the investment will definitely be much stronger.
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January 19, 2024, 04:45:26 AM
Since I've been accumulating my Bitcoin for a long term, I'm not worried about the recent dip in Bitcoin price. I'm happy because I will seize this opportunity to continue accumulating more Bitcoin at a low price. I hope this dip will last for a week so that I can use the money I kept to buy Bitcoin when there is a dip to accumulate more Bitcoin.

The recent price drop is indeed very important to take advantage of, especially for those who are trying to collect more Bitcoin at $41K. Because I think the current decline will not last too long in Bitcoin because there are still some good influences for the next price increase this month even though it happens more slowly. However, I believe that the price decline will not be that long in Bitcoin, because the influence of the large number of buyers can also be a real factor in the next price increase which will make the market turn green again this month.
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January 19, 2024, 04:36:30 AM
It doesn't truly matter if you bought the DIP and the DIP goes lower. What matters is bidding Bitcoin at $41,000 is better than bidding it at $45,000. You get a discount, you are a little more efficient with your capital, and you'll probably  HODL more units of Bitcoin through looking for discounts. HODLing more units = Definitely MORE value in your wallet when the asset surges.

Buy the DIP, and HODL because there's an increasing number of HODLers who have HODLed Bitcoin for more than one year. They are front-running you and it's in an all time high.

https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/1-year-hodl-wave/
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January 19, 2024, 04:30:19 AM
Volatile nature of Bitcoin is a big issue even for long time investment, it makes both the new investors who's intention is to learn more in the process and the old investors to experience or maximize FOMO and the fear of doubt and uncertainty Which are very common to investors, volatility should only be seen are a characteristic of Bitcoin to encourage investors not to sell but to hold and accumulate even more regardless the nature of the volatility which has made some investors to sell their investment.
Volatility is mainly a problem for short term investors because long time investment does not require you to be looking at the price of Bitcoin regularly. If I start buying Bitcoin today and set my mind that my investment will be held for at least 7years, why will I shake when the price drop sharply? Of course those buying at the dips might FOMO a little when there is market drop, because they will be contemplating the right entry point, but those that are using stable process like DCA are not bothered at all because whether price drop or not, they already set aside some part of money to be invested in Bitcoin at a certain time they have already planned irrespective of the price.

For those who are worried about the volatile nature of Bitcoin, the DCA method is highly recommended as the advantages are enormous. Not only this, there are many other advantages that the DCA method have which is the reason it dominate the discussion here. Many people are already applying it and you can see the testimonies by simply scrolling through the discussion.

Your statement is in the right direction, short-term investors always shivers when there is dip in price, but the fall to understand that it is a good opportunity to also buy at this time, bitcoin was meant to be like this, that's why the long-term investor or holldlers as they are called always try as much as possible not to discouraged because of price fall because they have already stationed their mind the long run, so they are not distraction with either speculation or price fall.

Individuals should understand bitcoin before investing in it because bitcoin is not get rich fast stuff, the price is been determine by market force, influx of people that have chosen to be part of the it, many investment plan has been rolled out for everyone to be among, I don't think anyone have any excuse to be exempted but we most not come in with pressure because if we do we will be disappointed, the best action to take is to continue accumulating gradually so that you won't be tempted to withdraw your investment, this method will allow someone to divide his or her funds, use part of it to settle some needs and the other one for continuous accumulation with this pattern you won't have an issue.
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