Topic: Can anti gamblers accept cash from gamblers when they're in dire financial needs (Read 439 times)
June 03, 2024, 09:09:24 AM
when someone is in trouble, they should not care where the money comes from, whether it is from a drug addict, a gambler, or even a sex worker, because all they think about is how they can get money for their problems and that's it. maybe not everyone is like this, but there's no need to be too hypocritical, when there is a problem someone should think about how they can solve the problem and not think too much about where they get the money.
June 01, 2024, 06:05:43 PM
But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
People when faced with a very high pressure situation will do anything even if it’s things they never thought they will do. This is why they say cash is king. Anyone kneels and worships money. When you are in a dire need of it, you might just forget about your own principles and morals.Quote
The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?
I think we should let people have their own opinions. If one thinks gambling is bad then so be it because it might be part of their religion. If you disagree then you can keep it to yourself. 
June 01, 2024, 10:35:45 AM
You can't get away from gambling. Try getting out of bed in the morning on the other side.
June 01, 2024, 01:01:49 AM
(...)So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?
They are also correct in their argument about gambling bringing many crimes. Perhaps the things they know about gambling are just bad things. I respect everyone's thoughts and it doesn't matter if they are steadfast in their thoughts, because it doesn't affect me.
But perhaps what I see is that most of us always like to blame things outside of life, and refuse to accept the truth that all sins are caused by ourselves. If someone did not use gambling as a means to an evil end, there would be no evil. Like if someone is stubborn about their opinion when it's explained, and they still hold on to it, then that's their problem, like I can't blame the evil knife when it can cause damage, but it's just a tool in the kitchen, so it depends on our attitude towards every tool in life.
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May 31, 2024, 02:52:09 PM
So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
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Well, it depends on how faithful and disciplined the person is to their religion or principles. Some people who are really indebted and dedicated to their beliefs may not want to take such money. Some people too are just anti-gamblers for no serious reason, probably because they see that people lose so much in gambling and they decide to hate gambling, hate and criticize gamblers, but if they are in any serious mess, they would definitely accept money from gamblers to sort out their problems.
I am trying to remember a topic I saw on this forum about a year ago, where the OP talked about a man who refused to accept the money that his son had won from gambling. If you have time to search on this board, you might find that topic. That's to say that some people will not accept money from a gambler.
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Well, it depends on how faithful and disciplined the person is to their religion or principles. Some people who are really indebted and dedicated to their beliefs may not want to take such money. Some people too are just anti-gamblers for no serious reason, probably because they see that people lose so much in gambling and they decide to hate gambling, hate and criticize gamblers, but if they are in any serious mess, they would definitely accept money from gamblers to sort out their problems.
I am trying to remember a topic I saw on this forum about a year ago, where the OP talked about a man who refused to accept the money that his son had won from gambling. If you have time to search on this board, you might find that topic. That's to say that some people will not accept money from a gambler.
May 30, 2024, 01:14:58 PM
If someone is against gambling due to religious views then I believe that's their choice and we can't do anything to convince them that gambling isn't as bad as they consider it, but if someone is against gambling because they believe that it can cause addiction and destroy someone's life then we can at least tell them about responsible gambling.
I believe that someone who's in need of money will take cash from gamblers because a human will never reject the money which he/she gets when they need it, but it's also true that there are some people who will never accept such type of money because of their belief system. Those people will rather die than take cash from someone who earns income via gambling.
I believe that someone who's in need of money will take cash from gamblers because a human will never reject the money which he/she gets when they need it, but it's also true that there are some people who will never accept such type of money because of their belief system. Those people will rather die than take cash from someone who earns income via gambling.
May 30, 2024, 08:08:54 AM
Money is the most important part or materials of living so meaning by all means
everyone cannot deny that to accept specially when you are in badly needed and even
religion and everything will be needing money.
I remember Robinhood in which robbing rich people just to help poorer but he is
being loved by everyone because of what he is doing.
everyone cannot deny that to accept specially when you are in badly needed and even
religion and everything will be needing money.
I remember Robinhood in which robbing rich people just to help poorer but he is
being loved by everyone because of what he is doing.
May 30, 2024, 04:05:20 AM
Not sure if they will be doing this directly mate but What i do believe is that churches accepts donations from anyone even from drug lords and gambling lords .. I am not saying all of those churches and religions do such but i have seen this in several occasions specially in small churches that the well known gamblers donating regularly and yeah they are accepting .
If they are in a bad situation and they need the money, they will accept it. And we don't know the story behind any acceptance even if they know that it might have came from something bad. As for churches or individuals, you know what to do and no one needs a validation from other people if you'll accept or decline.
Just be responsible for accepting and giving that donation and whatever is in your conscience.
May 30, 2024, 03:33:51 AM
Most people in society usually think that gambling is bad and condemn gambling and there are also those who judge people who gamble because they feel that gambling is a dangerous game, even though whether gambling is bad or not depends on how much responsibility a person has when playing gambling and not necessarily everything. people who play gambling are bad, there are also those who care and like to help others, so it's clear that what's bad is not the game but the character of the person. When the situation is urgent, we can't think long enough other than to say yes to people who can help us, even though at first we hate them, but when it comes to money, someone's character will come out as you say.
In my country, even though gambling is illegal, the fact is that there are still people who gamble, but no one judges because they gamble with their own money, but if someone is addicted, it will only be a bad example for others so that no one will be like that, as long as the gambling is responsible and not It's not a problem to harm other people, after all we live in a society with different characters and traits. There are also those who are diligent in worship but don't like to help, but people who look sinful can actually help.
In my country, even though gambling is illegal, the fact is that there are still people who gamble, but no one judges because they gamble with their own money, but if someone is addicted, it will only be a bad example for others so that no one will be like that, as long as the gambling is responsible and not It's not a problem to harm other people, after all we live in a society with different characters and traits. There are also those who are diligent in worship but don't like to help, but people who look sinful can actually help.
May 30, 2024, 01:49:19 AM
Money is money no matter it comes from legal source or as a payment of illegal activity, as long as it is useful for saving a life I won't criticise accepting the donation even if it's against their practice because even in the religious perspective every sins will be forgiven if they ask for forgiveness so they are doing for a good reason so instead of blaming them, saving the life should be the priority.
May 30, 2024, 12:35:19 AM
Not sure if they will be doing this directly mate but What i do believe is that churches accepts donations from anyone even from drug lords and gambling lords .. I am not saying all of those churches and religions do such but i have seen this in several occasions specially in small churches that the well known gamblers donating regularly and yeah they are accepting .
May 30, 2024, 12:19:41 AM
I've seen worse some people would even do something just to get through a dire financial situation.
There are some who sold their body organs in order to get money, there are other's who would let go of their pride and do something that they wouldn't normally do.
I've seen people change because of their financial problem, from being a honor student to something that they shouldn't be doing just to get money to study or continue to live.
So it is clear to me that when a dire situation or they are in financial crisis they would take it no matter what, unless they would find other way to get some cash.
People underrate the effects of not having any money I feel like. It affects you in all aspects of your life. Physically and mentally, it drains out everything in you. So people turn crazy when they lose it. I can't blame them sometimes because it's extremely difficult to live without money.There are some who sold their body organs in order to get money, there are other's who would let go of their pride and do something that they wouldn't normally do.
I've seen people change because of their financial problem, from being a honor student to something that they shouldn't be doing just to get money to study or continue to live.
So it is clear to me that when a dire situation or they are in financial crisis they would take it no matter what, unless they would find other way to get some cash.
Especially nowadays where nothing is free anymore and prices are skyrocketing, to go around without money is impossible. It is even worse if you are not only worrying about yourself, and you also have a family to look and care for.
May 30, 2024, 12:08:07 AM
But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
To be clear, people with anti gambling belief condone the act of gambling, not the money made from gambling itself because it’s the same money that bein earn on salary and other ways. Gambling money is not a tainted money which means you are not doing something illegal.
I believe on your situation given. It’s no brainer that an anti gambler person will borrow money from the gmblee because he have no choice and also the money being borrowed doesn’t marked as gambling money so it’s very easy to accept it even with anti gambling purposes because you are just borrowing it.
I think that a person can collect money from a source that they don't approve of to save a life, but they should have that slight remorseful feeling that on a normal day, they wouldn't even consider collecting money from such a person. Money earned from a source that you approve of is not the same with the money earned from a source that you don't approve off, how money is earned matters a lot.
May 29, 2024, 10:16:38 PM
I've heard and seen people that condemns gambling, due to their religious believes, some because they think that gamblers are irresponsible people, while others are what they've heard about gambling addicts. This sets of people will tell you that gambling is sin, gamblers are people who wants to take shortcuts to riches and gamblers are not responsible or to be trusted with money.
Of course we have to admit that in every religion gambling and doing any bad thing is condemned. Although in my religion this gambling is never seen as good but it is seen as worst because of which people who are into gambling are looked down upon by the society. Most of the people don't like gambling people especially when we live in a society where elders never trust people who are addicted to gambling and they earn money it is haram. I also believe that all people who gamble must be committing sin, gambling is not a good thing at all, we have heard many people become addicted to gambling and their families have suffered a lot of losses. In that case I think every religion has said to refrain from such evil deeds and forbid gambling addiction as it is a sinful act hence gambling is haram. And the money that is earned by gambling is money and haram, although the gamblers do this to earn money, but it is not their good earnings at all. However most of the gamblers are not responsible but they take such gambles and lose their Money and gambling addicts are always condemned by the society.
May 29, 2024, 09:58:26 PM
So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
It's already an emergency situation to save life, even someone is an anti-gambler, I don't think he/she will refuse the money if saving the life of a loved one is more important than anything else. In times like this, if it happened to me and i'm against those gamblers spending their money in gambling, I will also swallow my pride and belief just to save the life of a person who's dear to me. It's between life and death so certainly what you can only think of is how to get money to save the life of the person. May 29, 2024, 09:46:35 PM
I've heard and seen people that condemns gambling, due to their religious believes, some because they think that gamblers are irresponsible people, while others are what they've heard about gambling addicts. This sets of people will tell you that gambling is sin, gamblers are people who wants to take shortcuts to riches and gamblers are not responsible or to be trusted with money.
But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?
I do not really care about them as I make an effort to not reveal too much about myself to people that do not know me.But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?
However I am sure that some of the people that are the most vocal against gamblers, will be the first ones to ignore their previous complaints and accept that money if they really need it, but make no mistake, they will not do this because they had a change of heart, this is simply a matter of convenience and as soon as they are back on their feet, they will condemn you once again.
May 29, 2024, 07:24:16 PM
The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?
People that condemns gambling act are just those people that are misinformed about gambling and it's habits. I wouldn't really blame them because just like you have said there is always an irresponsible people in every areas of life, so there is always an opposition to what people do. Wether good or bad, so it's not a new things we should accept it in any way we see it. Because in what ever we do there must be critics in other hands they will still be looking for how to get something from the particular person in question without considering how they criticized such person before. So back to the question of the thread, yes an anti gambler can accept money from a gambler when they are really in need of money. 
May 29, 2024, 06:57:36 PM
I've heard and seen people that condemns gambling, due to their religious believes, some because they think that gamblers are irresponsible people, while others are what they've heard about gambling addicts. This sets of people will tell you that gambling is sin, gamblers are people who wants to take shortcuts to riches and gamblers are not responsible or to be trusted with money.
I'm trying to view the positive side from this case. People who condemn gambling because of the mistakes of few gamblers. Honestly, I also hate bad gamblers who use other people's money for gambling and never repay the money. If the gamblers play gambling in a proper way, I think those people won't condemn gambling. There is nothing wrong with gambling games if it is mostly for fun purposes. Those irresponsible gamblers who should be blamed by them.The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?
Whether it is crime or not, it depends on the laws in the country. We can't generalize it!We must admit that we have irresponsible gamblers. But it doesn't mean all gamblers are irresponsible. For the responsible gamblers, they don't make the mistakes. Those people can't blame the responsible gamblers.
For the people who condemn gambling, I actually don't care with them. As long as they don't bother my activity, I don't want to think about their action. In my opinion, they just don't understand what gambling should be. They only view it from the bad gamblers.
May 29, 2024, 06:33:17 PM
I've seen worse some people would even do something just to get through a dire financial situation.
There are some who sold their body organs in order to get money, there are other's who would let go of their pride and do something that they wouldn't normally do.
I've seen people change because of their financial problem, from being a honor student to something that they shouldn't be doing just to get money to study or continue to live.
So it is clear to me that when a dire situation or they are in financial crisis they would take it no matter what, unless they would find other way to get some cash.
There are some who sold their body organs in order to get money, there are other's who would let go of their pride and do something that they wouldn't normally do.
I've seen people change because of their financial problem, from being a honor student to something that they shouldn't be doing just to get money to study or continue to live.
So it is clear to me that when a dire situation or they are in financial crisis they would take it no matter what, unless they would find other way to get some cash.
May 29, 2024, 06:30:56 PM
But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
I think that every belief has limits, and when it involves the life of someone we love, we do everything, some would exchange their own life for another's.
In this case, certainly yes, these people would accept "dirty money" to save someone they love, even if to do so they would need to do a lot of penance later.
But, your report made me reflect on something: Do many of these people who do not tolerate gambling really believe that this is something dishonest or do they do it just because this is a belief that the society around them condemns, or else Does your religion prohibit it?
Wouldn't some of these people who say they "reject" gambling would like to be able to play without anyone knowing, wouldn't they just play in secret?
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