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Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

I've heard and seen people that condemns gambling, due to their religious believes, some because they think that gamblers are irresponsible people, while others are what they've heard about gambling addicts. This sets of people will tell you that gambling is sin, gamblers are people who wants to take shortcuts to riches and gamblers are not responsible or to be trusted with money.

But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

Right now, you are mostly talking about the addicted person, not about the normal gambler. Gambler can be trusted with money but the addicted person, doesn't matter what's the cause of addiction, can't be trusted.
By the way, this is very interesting question. A situation, when family members blame the person for being gambling addicted and then this person luckily winning the jackpot. You know what happens in this case? This person with money, that was previously blamed, becomes an icon in the family. In 99% cases, that's the reality. Money buys many things. People don't follow their morals as well as they pretend.

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Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

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I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

The problem with society today, we are quick to judge people or label them for what they aren't , but unfortunately when urgent help is needed and few people are available to give it out to them and they get to a desperate place..it's always the unlikely people that will come to your aid and I believe such an anti gambler mentality will change as their life will have a reality check that will make them not to judge people for what they aren't..

I guess the person would get the money as they desperately need it Cool

Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

Gambling might seem like a bad thing to many, but trust me there is a whole lot of crazy stuff happening behind closed doors that would make gambling look like a picnic... besides gambling is something that is legally recognised in some places, so I wonder why people hate on it, unlike the illegal sh*T out there Roll Eyes

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If a gambler is giving money as loans, they are a loan shark, there is no shame in that. The source of money is less important but such sharks will not be able to sustain for long because of their gambling habits. So a long term shark usually does not spend their money recklessly but prey on individuals who might need money.

Of course there is no need to judge how they acquired the money in case of emergency, religion can do what it wishes to, someone's life being saved is way more important and is the next possible thing to redeeming yourself beyond what the narrow vision of religion can see.

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I do not know why anyone would judge a gambler. They are human beings like us and as long as the money is not gotten through illegal means, I don't think that that should be a problem. Too many backlash on gamblers by non gamblers is definitely uncalled for. And I'll tell you that most folks don't care the source of wealth, as long as they are in need, they'll look the other way. It's how life works, the survival or preservation mechanism.

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I have always told people that condemns gambling that they on the other side do engage in other things and activities that are way worse than gambling only difference is that those things they do the issue of battling with addiction are not there.

Nowadays people are only quick to condemn anything they don't flow with but aren't that quick to reject money gotten from same source they condemn which is why I can without an iota of doubt say that under any circumstance especially one of life and death those that condemn gambling won't hesitate to accept gamble won money to save the situation.

But would it bad of me to refusing to give out my money gotten through gambling to a person that is anti-gamble, that's one that always condemn my engagement with gambling despite how responsible I gamble. Because I feel like they have not reason to be worth giving money from something they are against? Maybe doing so can send a message for them not to condemn just anything for personal reasons.

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Give them the money first and see if they will care about how you made it. That is how complex humans are and even those with their morals intact will only ask if the money is from a legal business, in the case gambling is, then they will forget all their theories against gambling and accept the money. I have seen many anti gamblers who are actively gambling now after realising that gambling can actually fetch them money. Most of them are against gambling due to ignorance, they just feel that gambling is hard to win so they conclude it is bad.

In the face of emergency, no one questions source of funds, so even people who are against gambling for whatever reason, they will accept the proceed from gambling during emergency.

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Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

I've heard and seen people that condemns gambling, due to their religious believes, some because they think that gamblers are irresponsible people, while others are what they've heard about gambling addicts. This sets of people will tell you that gambling is sin, gamblers are people who wants to take shortcuts to riches and gamblers are not responsible or to be trusted with money.

But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

Well, first and foremost, there is a huge gap between what a person does to make money, and another person (supposedly an anti-gambler) needing money to save a life as you said, this two does not corrolate in the sense that, it is important for us to save a life when the opportunity calls and we know we are well positioned to do so, it's wrong to bring sentiments into such a matter, don't forget that money is money regardless of how it came or it's made.

If what we are talking about here was a mere issue like maybe the anti-gambler comes around to borrow money for some minor expenses from a gambler he has previously judged and mocked, then I did say that the gambler also will be right if he or she refuses to lend his or her money out, knowing fully well that it's through gambling he got the money, but when it comes to the issue of saving life, we should remove all sentiment and do what we have to do to save that life, because why? Anybody can find him or her self in a situation where he or she will need help from other people to save his or her life, including the gambler him or herself.

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Sure they are, sure they will.

It's not like they can be choosy on where the money came from especially if they are in need. It is not even illegal. There may be other traditional beliefs but I have not heard of someone yet who will not accept something that came from legal gambling.
I understand those people who will not receive the money from the people who earned it through drug pushing or other illegal means because they feel like it's dirty money. But whatever comes from gambling is not like bad money at all. First, we risk something before we win that. Second, as I said the first time, it was legally won. Finally, the lotto game is also gambling, and yet people are okay to receive money from those winners.

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Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

Talking about emergency to the point of saving a life OP, this can even fume such an anti gambler to gamble with the least amount of affordable fund to give it a try if he/she maybe lucky to win as gamblers been speculating rumours that they bet with little fund and profited hugely.
Aside that, of course the anti gambler will take the money and definitely will come back to the gambler on regrets and apologies of being a gambling saboteur.

I am just trying to say that emergency needs can make you do an unusual just to get rid of it..

Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge,

The morale of gambling condemnation is based on the fact that it posses an influence of ruining gamblers life and making them Irresponsible to the society.

Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

They are only being concerned that gamblers are intentionally loosing their funds while gambling but one thing they fails to understand is that we all have one or two occasions where we happily spend our money probably when we want to have funs.
So, they don't find gambling to be fun as that and they also don't know that gambling are basically gambling with affordable funds Incase it is lost.
What you do not practice would actually seem odd and interesting to you but does not warrant criticism like the gamblers are being engaged on prohibited activities.

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Just like similar situations that occur with me recently, I have this federal civil servant close to me, and each time we get talking and discussions bring us to cryptocurrency he always make some misguided statements such as bitcoin I a scam and only scammers use bitcoin, despite knowing that I deal with bitcoin and in as much as a try to explain things to him,I discover that his mentality is low and full of assumptions.

Something happened recently, he took a loan from the bank and when his salary was diverted into servicing those loans, he was left with nothing and in dear need of money to sort out something with family, then he run to me to borrow him money to sort out his financial needs, at that point I blatantly told him that I don't borrow people money,he was disappointed, but the truth os that, I don't want to help him out of what he hard already being criticising.

Some goes in this situation, i can never loan anyone money won from gambling when themselves are anti gambling and also publicly critizing what they don't understand, I will feel uses if I does that and I will never fall for such trap.

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Even if the money is stolen, they will not care to know the source of money, not to talk of it come from gambling or not. Only what that would be in their mind is that they should get the money and use it for the important thing they need it for. I know life and I know how people behave.

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That's a slap to the face. But you don't wanna do that to your worse enemies. When someone is in dire need of help, whether he's your friend or enemy, you don't stomp on the face of your enemy that has already fallen on the ground. If you want to donate, just be a cheerful giver. Coz that's what the bible says be a cheerful giver.. Amen

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Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

Here in our country, some people will do anything to save the life of their loved ones so if it is a matter of life and death they should do away with their belief and do the necessary things to save a life not all gamblers are bad and there is a good side in gambling I support responsible gambling because, in our country, taxes coming from gambling have alleviated the lives of the poor people their basic needs and medical needs.

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The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

They may have reasons why they hate and condemn gambling and they are not educated about what gambling is and what it is not, but they are still entitled to their opinion and let time educate them one day that not all gamblers are bad people and gambling platforms also have a positive effect on people.

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Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

we can speculate all we want but we will never know until we actually witness it. Anyway, if the person refuses to accept the money because it came from gambling and prioritises their "moral integrity" over the life of someone, then, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Quote from: Kelward on May 29, 2024, 06:32:24 AM

So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

they should be more open-minded, a lot of people who condemn gambling usually assume that all the people who gamble are irresponsible, a sinner or a bad person.

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Since you mentioned urgently saving a life and if that life is someone I love I can easily swallow my pride but if its a donation or giveaway then I can say no, when it comes to urgent matters we have to think quickly or blame ourselves for not doing it quick once a life is loss.
It very much depends on the situation.

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I've heard and seen people that condemns gambling, due to their religious believes, some because they think that gamblers are irresponsible people, while others are what they've heard about gambling addicts. This sets of people will tell you that gambling is sin, gamblers are people who wants to take shortcuts to riches and gamblers are not responsible or to be trusted with money.

But when trouble comes, that is the best time to judge people's characters, it's then that you will know whether they practice what they preach. So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.

The morale in this story is that people that condemns gambling should not judge, because it's not a crime to gamble. Although we have irresponsible gamblers, but then there are irresponsible people in every areas of life. So what do you think about the people that condemns gambling?

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