Topic: Can anti gamblers accept cash from gamblers when they're in dire financial needs - page 2. (Read 439 times)

When someone needs money doesn't matter the source at all, they will not say "i can't accept that money because is dirty". Maybe they will not agree with the source but in the end, they will accept the money just because they need it. But we can be sure they will not use the money for gambling and that's something good for them.

When people need money, they will do anything for it, even if it isn't ethical. as they say, corner the dog and his only option will be to bite you.

People are able to judge others because they have the luxury to. You think at moments of desperation luxury is something that exists? Besides, yes it's not a crime to gamble, but neither is it to judge people no? It's just a cultural thing (if I were to describe it). There's absolutely no need to hate on them (nor like them) really, taking it to heart only serves to hurt you and not them. Don't mistake me though I'm all in it for trying to remove the negative image about gambling, just that getting stuck on them ourselves seem different to the goal here.

And in your example OP if the person puts his beliefs above someone else's life then somethings is fundamentally wrong with them, not because of a cultural difference lol. Not to mention that I don't think a person who hates gambling would have gamblers around them anyway.

To be honest, I think that these people who criticize gambling and use religion as the reason, in a way they are difficult people for us to understand their reasons, because looking at religious people, their behavior towards many things that have happened, it makes us question whether they are really religious people or not, it seems that people who use religion to avoid gambling are only doing so because they don't like gambling and not because they really believe that gambling be sin. What if a person who is participating in the lottery, for example

and this person one day won 10 million US dollars and became very rich, bought a house and a luxury car and posted on his social networks, we would see that many people who were talking bad about gambling would be looking for that lottery winner to talk to him, go for a walk with him and they would even accept money from the lottery winner. What we have today in society are false moralists who criticize something X but do that thing X. Nowadays people don't care about how person Z's money came from, they just want person Z to give them money too 

Your viewpoint is rather intriguing and casts a broader light on the issue of gambling. In fact, a lot of people frown upon gambling due to religious or moral grounds, as well as their negative encounters with it. They might view gambling as an irresponsible or high-risk endeavor that has the potential to wreck an individual's existence.

On the other hand, as you mentioned, it is vital to not judge people based solely on one behavior. while gambling may have negative connotations, it is essential to take a holistic view of an individual and discern the context surrounding their actions. It is unjust to simply cast judgment on someone for being a gambler without delving into their underlying motives and other aspects of their behavior. By adopting a more open-minded and non-judgmental attitude, we stand to gain a richer understanding of human intricacies and the myriad paths people tread in their lives.

If you are someone whose really that strict when it comes on following on what scriptures say or something that getting in line about having those bad impressions and views towards gamblers or to those who are really that getting involve with it, then no matter how worst the condition or situation would be, then you wont really be finding  yourself touching up those gamblers funds and wont really be seeking any help from them but rather you would be finding other alternatives on which its true that there are still other ways that you could be able to borrow money like taking up some loan in banks or borrowing into other people or relatives on which arent gamblers. There are really just those people who would really be sticking into their principle no matter what on which it isnt really that bad.

For some people who do end up on having no chance on getting some help or other options then even if they do know that it is really that a sin then they would really be go diving with that last resort on which
i could say that this is something that you would really be doing. We are talking about our loved ones on here or something which is emergency and we cant really be always having that funds to support
those things on which not all would really be that ending up borrowing or taking up some loan.

A very interesting article and an unusual example.
I believe that every person makes a choice only for himself. If a person is religious, then it will be a sin for him to play, because his religion prohibits him. For a non-believer, this will not be something forbidden, because the law allows it. Relatively speaking, state law separates “sin” and “not sin”. If it does not violate state law, then it is not prohibited. I would say that I would not teach my children to gamble, but I also do not condemn those who gamble, it is their choice

People alter their beliefs when in dere need, be it a matter of death and life, especially if the victim is closely related then there is every course to do stuffs contrarily, reference to those who condemns gambling will have no option other than to take from the available source whether a gambler or not. Meanwhile condemning gambling as a sin forgetting we buy and sell, go to eateries, do shopping and many interesting activities yet around those people who their beliefs do not match with ours, now comparing to asking financial aid from a gambler in a case of saving life.

Gambling in itself has never been a bad thing but what has been is the attitude and the character of the gambler because this where most persons tend to drag their judgments from and eventually generalize it and they are sometimes wrong but then its not such that should be considered so much of a problem, in essence im sayin gambling proceeds shouldn't be seen as a bad or ill gotten funds as in the long run it was actually gotten from an illegal source as gambling is legalized in some of these countries so money gotten from gambling can not be termed as ill gotten because its not at all.

I'm of the opinion that in such a situation, I'm optimistic in the fact that the gamblers donation or funds is most definitely goin to be accepted at that time not minding the religious background of the ones who need the funds art such a critical time because its crucial a need has to be met which is the main thing they will have to be focusing on at the moment and not how they are going to investigate the source of the funds.

i love the last part! Haha kidding aside, that's true, shame on a person that the person they judge and say some kind of ugly words will help them in their time of need. We have experienced this scenario before, especially with my relatives, the amount of judgment they say to my and my family when they find out that I gamble, they are the reason why I pushed myself to become a responsible gambler because I don't want the judgments they throw at me to come true, then when they needed help especially in financial matters, they came to me, they just ate their pride because they knew what they did before, and because we are kind, of course I helped somehow and I just thought that It's just like that, sometimes we can't say no when someone asks us for help, especially if we see that it's really necessary.

I am almost sure that about 90% or more will ask for help from those people and give up their beliefs, because they will want to survive at any cost. But there will also be those who strongly believe in their religion and they will most likely refuse help. Each person has their own choice and I am not going to judge them for this opinion. Everyone chooses how to live, there is even a saying in our area: Do not judge anyone and you will not be judged. I hope many people understood the essence of these words.

Some people often say the same words when in a certain situation, but when life puts them in the narrow framework of other situations, they will say the completely opposite, life happens according to such rules and unfortunately nothing can be done about it.

In general, if people push hard, especially in the financial/economic field, most will do and receive anything, including money from gambling, even high interest money.

People are urgent, meaning they need it immediately, if they don't get it, it could end, generally they no longer look at morals or shame, they will bear the shame. The important thing is that they can get the money.

We understand that everyone has a different view in assessing money from gambling, but that doesn't mean they don't accept it, as long as they are useful for themselves, regardless of gambling money or anything else.

Seriously, whenever some people say something’s about gambling, I do feel bad because I know they don’t just really understand what gambling is all about, because it’s only addiction I know which is very bad. If anyone tells me that gambling is bad because it’s against their religion, then I don’t have any problem with that, but it annoys me whenever I see that people do call gamblers irresponsible sets of people. There is nothing bad about gambling, just that the addicted gamblers are the ones who are irresponsible, so we shouldn’t generalize it.

If you want to know someone’s true character, then test them with money. I know some religious people are going to reject the money even if it’s needed urgently, but I will tell you that some are still going to accept the money. All those people who are saying bad things about gambling will definitely accept the money, they won’t remember that gambling is an irresponsible activity. If most of them have the opportunity to win constantly from gambling, they will also be gambling.

On the moment that we are talking about life and death situations then for sure you wont really be tending to get in line with those religious or whatever impressions you do have with those gamblers.
You would definitely eat your words on the moment that you would really be in need of money. Sometimes people are really that too judgmental just because on what they have seen.
On the moment that you are on such condition then you would definitely be having no choice but to ask money or support no matter which person you do know.
It is really just that a shame into your part that you do really end up on asking help for those people whom you had judged.

Some might really be that swallowing their pride and ego because they dont have no choice since your loved ones life is at risks on which its normal but pretty sure
that after that on being anti-gambler/gambling person will really be changed up accordingly on the moment that you've seen that they had helped you once.
People would really be learning up life lessons based up on what they had experienced.This is why its really that bad to make judgment.

No one will deny money even if it has blood stains on it, trust me.

People may have their own opinion about gambling and the people who do it and it's perfectly fine but it doesn't mean you have to use this as advantage to mock someone when they are in real need, just let go of ego and help them if you can or just let him clear that you won't cause playing with people's feelings especially when they are low is worst crime though which isn't funny.

There's a saying that "money talks" which means that you can have your disagreements, but many things change when there's money on the table.

I know so many stories when my own family members who did not like each other and did not talk for years suddenly came together to settle because there was some money to be made from inheritance or they had a piece of land that none of them used and a buyer came around and gave them good price. Suddenly the disagreements disappeared and they sat at one table, talking and joking, but when the deal was done there was no more talking.

Yes people who hate you, be it for gambling or not, will eventually come to ask you for a favor and it's up to you whether you help them or not.

Yes of course, people are desperate when it comes to Money, anti gambler will definitely accept Money from gambler expecially when they are badly in need of it. I have a friend of mine that is always against me when ever am gambling sometimes when I place a bet and loss he will sometimes mock at me but when ever am lucky and I won a bet he will always want me to give him little cash sometimes too I will just show him some love by giving some little cash which I won from betting even I think he will say no that it is from gambling he won't even say no but he will just accept at the end what he will say is that things are hard.

"Can anti-gamblers accept cash from gamblers when they're in dire financial need"

Of course yes, but it all comes back to the recipient. The question is whether he is willing to receive donations or gifts from the proceeds of someone's gambling. the answers are very relative and varied, some are happy to accept it even though they know that the money was obtained from gambling winnings. quite a few are reluctant to accept it for reasons of their principles and beliefs. The point is, everything is possible. Moreover, if we talk about money, whether the source comes from, the name of the gift given or received is very sensitive. The question is, who really doesn't need money? well, I highly doubt it no one cares about money. I am speaking generally, not to certain people or groups. So related to your thread, the answer depends relatively on each person who needs it even if he is an anti-gambling person. but it doesn't rule out the possibility that if they are given money, even if they earn money from gambling, they won't hesitate to accept it. especially, like the story example in your post. Usually, when people are in an urgent situation, they will make various efforts including doing something extreme. especially if someone needs regular surgery, and the money he gets from donations from gambling winnings. Most likely, someone will receive it no matter the source of the money.

Now I ask again, what is the essence of what you posted in this thread?
After all, human behavior tends to change according to situations and conditions. It doesn't matter if someone condemns gambling, when he is in trouble and the only solution is to receive money from gambling. Psychologically, human beings, their beliefs will shake them with the pressure that befalls them. Well, actually this thread has nothing to do with games, betting or discussions related to games. but okay, at least we can discuss anything related to gambling.

It's simple they are all hypocrites who are condeming people who are just living their lives. It's not even about life savings situations that will make them ask you for money. The moment they hear that you have won a substantial sum of money from gambling they will start calling you on the phone and sending you series of messages soliciting for financial assistance from you. They are only religious in their lips but they don't practice what they preach. I have been in several situations like this, when I am losing bets it's mine alone and you will hear several defaming words about you, but the moment you win money it becomes everybody money. Relatives who condemned the gambling habits will line up and be asking for money. Since my childhood I haven't seen anyone rejected money just because the money was won from gambling. So I don't think anyone will reject money from gambling at anytime.

If it is a life or death situation there is no need trying to prove a point even if it did not like gambling. You really regret it if the person you are trying to save their life dies because you are trying to prove a point that gambling is bad and that you would not accept money from a gambler, that will be foolish.

If you condemn gambling, keep your opinions personal to yourself and do not say it publicly for everyone to know so you do not sound foolish when you find yourself in this kind situation where you can make yourself a clown.

There are indeed many words in your reasoning OP that I agree with. But I would not touch religion, because this is a very fine line for so many people. I would say that everyone decides for themselves what to do and is responsible for their life and for their loved ones. I don’t mind them playing, but as soon as an addicted player cannot pay off his debts and has to pay his wife and child or sick mother for it, then this sounds terrible to me. However, the same can be said about irresponsibility when a drunk driver gets behind the wheel, he does not think about the lives of other people, he just drives, but at this time he is a potential killer, even if he does not want it. Therefore, in the end, everything is correct, irresponsible people are everywhere, there are just a lot of them in gambling.