Topic: Can bitcoin be blocked too by the government or isp ?? - page 2. (Read 4271 times)
It would be a disaster if they try to go to those lengths to try to stop bitcoin, it would be admitting that bitcoin is a serious threat. I don't see it happening. Even if they act at an ISP level, people will use VPNs to bypass it, and maybe proxies will be set at a protocol level to somehow bypass the ISP block. Governments can't do anything but put fear on people's mind, it doesn't work as we have seen in russia.
A government can't block bitcoin directly.
But it can block sites where people have their wallets, such as blockchain.info.
And a government can prohibit businesses to accept bitcoin as a form of payment, maybe even declare the posession of bitcoin to be illegal.
Those measures would turn bitcoin to be useless for people and would be as effective as blocking bitcoin if this was possible.
But it can block sites where people have their wallets, such as blockchain.info.
And a government can prohibit businesses to accept bitcoin as a form of payment, maybe even declare the posession of bitcoin to be illegal.
Those measures would turn bitcoin to be useless for people and would be as effective as blocking bitcoin if this was possible.
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Use a VPN.Everyone needs freedom to do whatever they want on the internet.Torrents will never die.FTP's will never stop.You just need to look at the right places.For instance,check out russian torrent sites.Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Not unless they start taking actions against miners.How many IP's do you think they can individually start banning? They won't waste their time on this.I think the fast way here, is baning the commerce, so don't matter how many bitcoins users the world have, none will have where to spend it... However I think they just don't care, bitcoin marketcap is low af compared to others fiat currencies.
Governments can block you from using bitcoin just like they block you from:
Gambling - They can and have multiple times. Remember Fulltiltpoker.com, Absolutepoker.com, Ultimatebet.com and UB.com?
Porn - no one cares or tries.
Music piracy - They can and have multiple times. Remember Limewire, Demonoid, Kickass Torrents, Torrent-Finder, OnSmash.com, DaJaz1.com?
Joining a terror group - I can join the gay nazi's for hitler, that doesn't mean shit. Let's talk about drone strikes instead.
Creating a fake facebook account - Why would the government give a shit about that dude? They probably have more fake facebook accounts than anyone does.
etc...
In other words, theycan't can and have. 
Gambling - They can and have multiple times. Remember Fulltiltpoker.com, Absolutepoker.com, Ultimatebet.com and UB.com?
Porn - no one cares or tries.
Music piracy - They can and have multiple times. Remember Limewire, Demonoid, Kickass Torrents, Torrent-Finder, OnSmash.com, DaJaz1.com?
Joining a terror group - I can join the gay nazi's for hitler, that doesn't mean shit. Let's talk about drone strikes instead.
Creating a fake facebook account - Why would the government give a shit about that dude? They probably have more fake facebook accounts than anyone does.
etc...
In other words, they
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If Bitcoin came under attack from the government kiss that mainstream to the moon bullshit goodby. There is no way a payment system can be even slightly useful if under government attack. Hiding in a dark room, running TOR, and biting your nails is not the way most people want to shop on Amazon. LOL
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Actually there is a way to block the connection but it would not be easy but they actually can. But I think bitcoin is not needed to be blocked by government, this move from them would be useless because bitcoin is not a bad thing.
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
No. That would be against you human rights. That would be the government forcing you to use your banks. If torrents are blocked simply use a VPN service or DNS to bypass the evils of censorship. Bitcoin is not piracy and is not stealing anything from anyone. I wouldn't worry about this.
What can they do? I bet some governments will try to do this, and we will see on example how much can some government do about this question. Examples I saw here like gambling, porn, different sites are very good, government can`t do much about anything on internet. They make few cases and couple convictions, but same sites appear in few hours from new location.
Bitcoin is unstoppable, it`s better for them to accept things as they are. It will be better for us and them, maybe bitcoin can unite us in many ways, and to be much more then currency.
Bitcoin is unstoppable, it`s better for them to accept things as they are. It will be better for us and them, maybe bitcoin can unite us in many ways, and to be much more then currency.
if government do the task with ips then definitely there will be some hack coming up because now there are many virtual server that gives user virtual ips which allows user to access ip protected sites. but if Government setup a firewall then it might be possible to stop or put a complete ban on particular sites.
Governments can block you from using bitcoin just like they block you from:
Gambling
Porn
Music piracy
Joining a terror group
Creating a fake facebook account
etc...
In other words, they can't.
Gambling
Porn
Music piracy
Joining a terror group
Creating a fake facebook account
etc...
In other words, they can't.
If government block access to any bitcoin related site or web wallet we can easily access them via TOR browser as well as if government tries to banned exchange of bitcoin than we can have face to face deals which are off the record of any banks or online payment gateways. Also there are several bitcoin tumbling and mixing services to hide identity to not get linked to any bitcoins you are holding.
I think their know about that is why they dont do that.. because its impossible and customers who are using network service or internet service they don't want to apply it in their internet because they want no blocklisted site while they are browsing.. VPN is one of the solution proxy and ips most of them are cgi proxy. .
That can unblock connection.. that why they hotspot shield that can remove those block listed..
If government block access to any bitcoin related site or web wallet we can easily access them via TOR browser as well as if government tries to banned exchange of bitcoin than we can have face to face deals which are off the record of any banks or online payment gateways. Also there are several bitcoin tumbling and mixing services to hide identity to not get linked to any bitcoins you are holding.
Relevant: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-bitcoin-traffic-mining-or-transaction-be-blocked-by-providers-79913
I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.
I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.
That's a really old thread. There have been changes in TOR and government website seizures that change the game. The truth is if the government wanted to get rid of bitcoin they could do it easily using any number of methods. The good news is Bitcoin is such an inconsequential flea on the backside of an elephant that they have absolutely no reason to do anything.
Look at it this way, there are somewhere between 400k-500k daily heroin users in the USA alone but less than 250k daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. There are millions of violent crimes, identity thefts, financial sector crimes from check kiting to bank hacking and thousands of other problems too numerous to list. Why would any government throw resources they don't have solving a non-issue like Bitcoin?
Every time law enforcement has been involved with Bitcoin it was related to another crime not Bitcoin. Illegal securities, illegal drug marketplace, fraud, kidnapping, etc are the crimes they care about. It wouldn't matter if those crimes were committed with gold, dollars, bitcoin or food stamps the result would be the same.
No government is going to shut down Bitcoin because no one gives a shit about Bitcoin. LOL
You can't run a mail server from a residence in the US because most murrican isp's block SMTP port 25. Murrican isp's also routinely block ports 443, 80, 110 and 21. Windows home server setup used to commonly fail because of blocked ports.
The truth is the govt could demand isp's block any ports they want and there's nothing anyone could do about it. That would start a Bitcoin port war where updates would roll out with default port changes and the govt would block those and on and on like Apple iPhone updates. Hackers learn to jailbreak the current ios and Apple responds with an update, bla, bla. No one in their right mind would ever use a payment system that is that difficult to use.
None of that will ever happen. If the government actually cared enough about tiny little Bitcoin to do something about it they would simply pass a law banning its use. That would terrify every legimate business and force them to stop any dealings with Bitcoin effectively ending Bitcoin use in that country. If they were really serious about ending even the most casual use of Bitcoin they would pass a mandatory jail sentence for Bitcoin use. That would crush Bitcoin like jello under a steamroller in that country.
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Use a VPN.Everyone needs freedom to do whatever they want on the internet.Torrents will never die.FTP's will never stop.You just need to look at the right places.For instance,check out russian torrent sites.Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Not unless they start taking actions against miners.How many IP's do you think they can individually start banning? They won't waste their time on this. 
its impossible to prepare for every situation .
So you just shouldn't care, is that what you are saying? Yeah you can't prepare for anything, but you can certainly prepare for the most likely and unlikely situations to happen.
It may be possible for a Government to restrict hosting of Bitcoin nodes by making them illegal or Bitcoin mining as illegal as well. Similar to how hosting a tor node in certain places are considered illegal. The Governments could also heavily regular the Bitcoin market, prevent merchants from accepting Bitcoin payments and also could artificially pump in a lot of funds and dump to scale or drop the Bitcoin price. But all of these still happen in a regular stock exchange, which really couldn't affect the price by a lot. Bitcoin nodes can be easily setup in other regions to counter this and mining could always happen elsewhere as well. The fact is decentralization of Bitcoin would be put to stake if they wanted to really poke Bitcoin.
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Of course it can be blocked by your ISP but you can always bypass it. The only ones that will be affected by this are the people that didn't bother to search how to bypass this. This is very easy to do. There are even VPNs out there that allows you to connect to the Internet without paying your ISP. Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
As quoted users can go with several bypassing techniques and applications. Same happened in my country of banning porn websites and torrents, but the ban didn't last long as expected. Within a months time people started using it through different bypassing activities which made the government to release the ban over several websites.
I think that governments that will be banning access of something on the Internet has never heard of VPN and all those anonymity stuffs. All of these can be bypassed by just using a single software. Actually, it can even be monetize by some people. They can sell an elite or premium account of a VPN.
As quoted users can go with several bypassing techniques and applications. Same happened in my country of banning porn websites and torrents, but the ban didn't last long as expected. Within a months time people started using it through different bypassing activities which made the government to release the ban over several websites.
lol proxy bypass allows access to things banned while you still have internet available on your land line. but if your internet has been cut off completely due to a chance of your ISP's terms of service. then you are OFFLINE.. and no proxy bypass or tor can get around that.
it does not require making EVERYONE (billions of people) go offline to destroy bitcoin.. but instead just <6000.
yes it requires a co-ordinated approach to time 91 countries ISP's to do this at the same time. but it is possible.
relying on hope/trust that 91 governments or groups of ISP do not do this, is not good. we need to continue to strengthen bitcoin to not need hope/trust. but instead be strong enough to say "bring it, i dare ya" knowing they wont be successful.
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Of course it can be blocked by your ISP but you can always bypass it. The only ones that will be affected by this are the people that didn't bother to search how to bypass this. This is very easy to do. There are even VPNs out there that allows you to connect to the Internet without paying your ISP. Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
As quoted users can go with several bypassing techniques and applications. Same happened in my country of banning porn websites and torrents, but the ban didn't last long as expected. Within a months time people started using it through different bypassing activities which made the government to release the ban over several websites.
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Of course it can be blocked by your ISP but you can always bypass it. The only ones that will be affected by this are the people that didn't bother to search how to bypass this. This is very easy to do. There are even VPNs out there that allows you to connect to the Internet without paying your ISP. Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
It could possibly be blocked by the government because they have control on the ISP's on a certain country which they could able to command on blocking it all regards to bitcoin things but still they could not able to stop complete to those people who would really love to use bitcoin hence you could always use VPN and Tor which you could actually acces bitcoin with different IP but be careful hence Tor browsing would be able to detect by isp's but tor has a way on that for them not able to trace you.
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