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Quote from: satmas on October 28, 2016, 12:18:14 AM

If they can block sharing sites and torrents, they may be able to block the connection to the bitcoin network. Some bitcoin sites such as gambling sites might not allow users from specific countries to connect/register to the site, but you may be able to stop that by using VPN to connect from a country that isn't blocked.

This is what I am saying that a person will always find a way to circumvent the blocking Cheesy

As the technology is open to all, all are experimenting,reverse engineer to their own benefit.That is why, if there is a blocking, there is way to overcome it.

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Quote from: apoorvlathey on October 18, 2016, 09:48:03 PM

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

If they can block sharing sites and torrents, they may be able to block the connection to the bitcoin network. Some bitcoin sites such as gambling sites might not allow users from specific countries to connect/register to the site, but you may be able to stop that by using VPN to connect from a country that isn't blocked.

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Quote from: sempak on October 27, 2016, 08:59:05 PM

blocking enactment by the internet service provider is a totally impossible !!
bitcoin is a financial system, not a criminal act that should be restricted for use !!

so your saying financial systems are not restricted?
ever tried to get more the £$500 out of an ATM
ever tried to carry more than £$10,000 in cash onto a plane

we should stop thinking or caring about government rules or possible future rules. but strengthen the network to not get impacted by any rules present or future.

we need to stop saying:
"i hope governments dont change laws"
"i hope hackers dont delete 6000 nodes data in one swoop"

and instead say
"hackers come try breaking bitcoin, you can waste your time it wont break"
"governments come try to take it offline, you can waste your time but new nodes will be up in 20 seconds"

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blocking enactment by the internet service provider is a totally impossible !!
bitcoin is a financial system, not a criminal act that should be restricted for use !!

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Quote from: manbitcoinlover on October 27, 2016, 08:50:58 PM

Why wuld they block it though?

we should not care about why, where, who.
we should not be apathetic due to questions of why, where, who.

instead we should continue to increase the networks diversity and distribution so that questions such as:
why doesn't matter
when doesn't matter
who doesn't matter
where doesn't matter

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Why would they block it though?

PS: I can understand now how it can pose a problem to regular fiat currency. But this can only happen if bitcoin becomes so big because many people are using it,
such as brick and mortar stores and consumers. If this happens, the governmental financial system is challenge and can crumble, giving the people financial freedom.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on October 27, 2016, 07:23:31 PM

Quote from: Holliday on October 19, 2016, 03:05:12 AM

Relevant: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-bitcoin-traffic-mining-or-transaction-be-blocked-by-providers-79913

I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.

That's a really old thread. There have been changes in TOR and government website seizures that change the game. The truth is if the government wanted to get rid of bitcoin they could do it easily using any number of methods. The good news is Bitcoin is such an inconsequential flea on the backside of an elephant that they have absolutely no reason to do anything.

Look at it this way, there are somewhere between 400k-500k daily heroin users in the USA alone but less than 250k daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. There are millions of violent crimes, identity thefts, financial sector crimes from check kiting to bank hacking and thousands of other problems too numerous to list. Why would any government throw resources they don't have solving a non-issue like Bitcoin?

Every time law enforcement has been involved with Bitcoin it was related to another crime not Bitcoin. Illegal securities, illegal drug marketplace, fraud, kidnapping, etc are the crimes they care about. It wouldn't matter if those crimes were committed with gold, dollars, bitcoin or food stamps the result would be the same.

No government is going to shut down Bitcoin because no one gives a shit about Bitcoin. LOL

I am agree with you, although isp and goverment make a rule that banned the bitcoin. They still cannot stop the users to use bitcoin becouse users can use vpn to pass through it. So I think the statement that goverment is xan not control the bitcoin is true. I think bitcoin is realy appropriated to be virtual money and I think may be the most of people in the world will use bitcoin, just wait it to be happen.

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Quote from: Holliday on October 19, 2016, 03:05:12 AM

Relevant: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-bitcoin-traffic-mining-or-transaction-be-blocked-by-providers-79913

I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.

That's a really old thread. There have been changes in TOR and government website seizures that change the game. The truth is if the government wanted to get rid of bitcoin they could do it easily using any number of methods. The good news is Bitcoin is such an inconsequential flea on the backside of an elephant that they have absolutely no reason to do anything.

Look at it this way, there are somewhere between 400k-500k daily heroin users in the USA alone but less than 250k daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. There are millions of violent crimes, identity thefts, financial sector crimes from check kiting to bank hacking and thousands of other problems too numerous to list. Why would any government throw resources they don't have solving a non-issue like Bitcoin?

Every time law enforcement has been involved with Bitcoin it was related to another crime not Bitcoin. Illegal securities, illegal drug marketplace, fraud, kidnapping, etc are the crimes they care about. It wouldn't matter if those crimes were committed with gold, dollars, bitcoin or food stamps the result would be the same.

No government is going to shut down Bitcoin because no one gives a shit about Bitcoin. LOL

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Quote from: Selly Arumsari on October 26, 2016, 12:24:02 AM

Quote from: Teraboy on October 18, 2016, 10:02:36 PM

Quote from: apoorvlathey on October 18, 2016, 09:48:03 PM

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

That's right the goverment just be able for blocking the bitcoin through the IP, in this time that is referring into the bitcoin'site and not for the bitcoin currency. but it's just useless step for the goverment and isp for blocking bitcoin. according from the a lot of the various vpn are offering a good service in this day for passing a block and like using a tor network. goverment and isp just wasting a lot of their time for doing a sueless things.

yeah, i think goverment can block with IP but we can replace IP again

Apart from replacing your ip when it is blocked by the government for using bitcoin should it be prohibited, you may safely use proxy ip or vpn and still access whatever site or business relating to bitcoin. Whether they block the ip or not, people will still find a way to use bitcoin surely.

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Even if the government tries to block Bitcoin, it will be useless. We can easily surf the blocked websites with some IPs. So the government block will not have any impact in using Bitcoins.

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Have read a few articles on this topic lately and some say that places like China are getting better and more sophisticated at breaking loopholes but then there are others that point out the cost.
The cost is really a interesting dynamic because they are double fisting the issue and bleeding money till something cheaper comes along.

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Well, if you are talking about countries in which BTC is illegal, they can search the players of online casinos by IP, for instance. I don't think people use TOR that much. The same holds for torrent websites or something else like that. But bitcoin can't be absolutely blocked and people from countries where it is illegal may still find a way to use bitcoin for online purchases.

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as still not a single country has taken step about this , therefore no one know about the fact that either it can be block or not.

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If bitcoin becomes a headache to the government then they can certainly block it. Because government never wants that their citizen earns some free money which is hard to be taxed. They want you to pay taxes in everything. Since bitcoin is anonymous, it is hard for them to track it unless and until you exchange it in your local currency.

However, you can certainly use VPN service to open the blocked website. So it will not be much of a problem. But the risk of trading bitcoin in your local currency will have higher risk of getting caught.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 26, 2016, 06:15:10 PM

Bitcoin system is like torrent P2P system. If they want to destroy bitcoin, they will have to ban everysingle IP which is connected to the blockchain. Which is pretty dump. Doable but it won't happen.

Yes its very possible, but why they should do it in the first place? The government will receive a backlash from bitcoin community. But when it happens, more great minds will seek any way to overcome this blockade.Remember,necessity is the mother of invention. Huh

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Bitcoins might get blocked by ISPs but we have alternatives with which we can use it without letting them know that we are doing it.
Why are we so worried when we are having many things available to bypass the blocks?

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I think they can do it as bitcoin transaction, or anything for that matter has some code that would determine that it was a bitcoin transaction. However, similar to censorship in other countries, like China, there are ways to bypass such censorship. I think, in the event, Bitcoin does get blocked by the government or an ISP, there would be workarounds to it.

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That depends on the use or abuse of the crypto currencies, if bitcoins are excessively used for some illegal or destructive activities then governments might make or introduce some legislation to regulate or ultimately block the digital currency

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Quote from: Kakmakr on October 19, 2016, 01:44:07 AM

People will just connect to these sites via proxies and anonymous browsers and find ways to bypass firewall restrictions. We have seen this with the Chinese " Golden Shield Project " where censorship and surveillance are applied to restrict internet use. You might find some ways to bypass these restrictions, but you might also end up with some jail time, if you did that.

The other thing they might also do, is to ban "Crypto currency" use on the merchant side. If these merchants are forbidden to accept "Crypto currencies" then you would have no place to spend your bitcoins.

In the end, we just have to work with these governments to find a solution to satisfy everyone's needs and hope that they would not over regulate it, which I doubt. ^hmmmmm^

Yeah, I think nothing in our country that could be escape from government attention if they want to.
Government maybe can not blocked bitcoin if just doing sites blocked which could encounter through VPN, but if they ban merchant, store, ATM that accepted bitcoin, it may inconvenience bitcoin user at the country.

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