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Quote from: wxa7115 on July 19, 2022, 03:49:49 PM

And without any doubt you are right, the environment matters but if the person is not willing to give it his all in order to overcome his addictions then the environment could be as free from any reference to gambling and yet the person will once again fall into his gambling addiction.

It is because of this that people find it so difficult to overcome their addictions, as only an iron will can be enough to overcome the burning desire they have of gambling again, and each time they fail on overcoming their addiction the more difficult it becomes as they begin to think they do not have what it is necessary in order to reach their goal.

But in this case there are also other factors that must be considered because when the environment changes but the factor of the closest person is still doing it, it will be the same.
When someone wants to stop their addiction to gambling, apart from the environment, they must also forget about people who can make them return to gambling because it will seem futile if they move to a new environment but still hang out with people who are still gambling.

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The only thing that will make someone to change from it's decision. it's because of lacks of funds but when someone is rich very well which nobody can bend it decision unless it undergoes numbers of advices from prominent people. Because a situation that changes the decisions of someone emotions and conditions is very difficult and especially for those people who have what it takes to control and stamped for their words. But from this your analysis, i have not see were it relate or collabrate with gambling issues.

Why do we always see in movies that when someone is hurt in love and in professional life they change their location.
In our religion people migrate too - if they are finding the place not treating them well. So migration in our culture is very important if you need to have a better future. Change is constant.

Plus, he was comparing movies and real life. We all know that most movies are just fictional. I also think that gambling, love and professional life are not comparable to each other because gambling is only just a game and should not be taken seriously because if you do then expect that many problems can occur later on. Love and professional life are the ones that must be taken seriously so that you can live a better a life.

You don't necessarily need to migrate only to find another enjoyment but you can always start it on your current location. That alone might help you forget gambling because it does not cost much money and it doesn't make you feel depressed.

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But if they happen to move in an environment in which no one drinks alcohol then they will not be as tempted to do so, and as far as I know this is one of the steps when it comes to overcoming alcohol addiction, and as such something similar should be followed when it comes to gambling addiction.

I think change in environment does matter - however - it also depend on the will of the person.
One should not get into the gambling to an extent where they lose their money and come in trouble. However sometime man become so much blind that they lose all the control over their mind.

And without any doubt you are right, the environment matters but if the person is not willing to give it his all in order to overcome his addictions then the environment could be as free from any reference to gambling and yet the person will once again fall into his gambling addiction.

It is because of this that people find it so difficult to overcome their addictions, as only an iron will can be enough to overcome the burning desire they have of gambling again, and each time they fail on overcoming their addiction the more difficult it becomes as they begin to think they do not have what it is necessary in order to reach their goal.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 19, 2022, 03:06:04 AM

Environment can affect many things in the lifestyle of someone. It can affect the way the person reasons, it can affect the way the person behaves and also affect the type of business someone does.
If a drug addict goes to a Sane environment where there is no drug to buy, he will suffer for sometime and gradually adapt to the new environment. Same thing can be said of gambling. But with online gambling and a forum like this, a gambling addict will not change since he could always come online.

Point taken. Environmental changes could really make someone ponder and reflect on some things. Perhaps it could also alleviate the urge in some people to do the usual things they do because of the situation. An entirely new environment means they have limited option and ways to do their hobby. Hence, they are forced to adapt from the sudden transition of their surroundings.

However, addressing the issue just on the tip of it will not solve it totally. Gambling addiction is a serious case. It shouldn't be taken lightly and it should be addressed from the roots to treat and completely heal it. It's not an overnight process. If we're just going to change environment, eventually, a person addicted in gambling will find his way to go back in gambling.

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Yes I agree, without the force within that person he will not change his bad habits

It is not always that the decision of a person that will change him. Although it goes along way like many people believe but at the same time there are other external forces that can force someone to change from one particular habit to the other one. For instance sickness and a particular type of it can control the way we act. If a gambler is on sick bed and not able to move around definitely his gambling activities will automatically reduce.

The only thing that will make someone to change from it's decision. it's because of lacks of funds but when someone is rich very well which nobody can bend it decision unless it undergoes numbers of advices from prominent people. Because a situation that changes the decisions of someone emotions and conditions is very difficult and especially for those people who have what it takes to control and stamped for their words. But from this your analysis, i have not see were it relate or collabrate with gambling issues.

Why do we always see in movies that when someone is hurt in love and in professional life they change their location.
In our religion people migrate too - if they are finding the place not treating them well. So migration in our culture is very important if you need to have a better future. Change is constant.

Lol Gambling addiction is far different from your talking about like Love? and in professionalism ? I'm afraid that the comparison is not what it happens here.
but yeah it maybe helpful to migrate just to let your self find another enjoyment and forget about gambling at least for a month or years.

Quote from: Docnaster on July 19, 2022, 03:06:04 AM

Environment can affect many things in the lifestyle of someone. It can affect the way the person reasons, it can affect the way the person behaves and also affect the type of business someone does.
If a drug addict goes to a Sane environment where there is no drug to buy, he will suffer for sometime and gradually adapt to the new environment. Same thing can be said of gambling. But with online gambling and a forum like this, a gambling addict will not change since he could always come online.

environment/community brings big part to our life and nature, this is why choosing the right community will keep you safer than everything .

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Quote from: swogerino on July 18, 2022, 02:36:32 AM

Internet has got nothing to do with it except making it easier for many people to access gambling if they wanted to.A fun example would be from what I have learned from locals where I live that during the communist era that run for near 50 years here people still gambled despite it being illegal and you could get in jail for several years if caught.The gamblers here played at that time near a football club place of training and they were caught by the police who were wearing the uniform of that soccer team and put all of them to jail.This didn't stop as gamblers still continued to gamble no matter these high risks,it means it is true gambling is in our nature and we can't stop it no matter how hard we try.

I totally agree with your last statement that gambling can't be stop no matter how we try, since it has been in existence for centuries, but it can be reduced to some point by certain policies made by either the government or an individual in person, because a change of environment can have effect on a gambler if such gambler is the kind who gets involve in physical gambling because if he or she is moved to a different environment where he no longer have access to those regular spots where he goes to gamble, such person will tend to forget about gambling gradually even thou it may take time. And a change of environment can also not have an effect on an online gambler because such individual who have access to online can gamble anytime, anywhere from the comfort of his or her home with the use of an internet connection.
So the whole thing goes vice-versa

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it is effective in some part but this will still depend on our wanting , because even how changing locations we do but if we will keep seeking for gambling places then ? what is the sense actually?
I'm afraid that all we wanted is different from what we are doing if that happens.

change place if you are ready to leave addiction , of course with your family that supporting you.

There will still be a possibility that we will return to looking for a gambling place around our new residence and we may ask people in our neighborhood. We hope to find a casino there, which can happen if we don't have a busy day.

so that is better to find a place where gambling isn't active for community so the chance of seeking for gambling was not there and better.

Maybe moving to a residence close to a house of worship will help them to try to leave gambling forever and change them for the better.

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Quote from: michellee on July 17, 2022, 11:35:41 AM

But if we can immediately mingle with the people around us and join in many activities, it will prevent us from thinking about gambling so we won't have time to find where the casinos are around us.

Just make sure that those people you are going to mingle are not gambling active and not something that will lure you to gamble again.

Maybe new people who come to an environment will not be too open with others. But as time goes by and they become closer, it can make them open up to each other and trigger them to return to gambling again. But what you say is true and requires self-control even if they are gamblers and invites you to return to gambling.

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This is why we need our families' support to help us change the situation that has happened to us so that we can cure that gambling addiction.

exactly , our family and friends are one of the best tools for us to really leave a gambling world because if not? then you will be dead forever.

It is why we need to tell our family and friends that we have a problem with gambling and need them to help us to leave gambling forever.

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Environment can affect many things in the lifestyle of someone. It can affect the way the person reasons, it can affect the way the person behaves and also affect the type of business someone does.
If a drug addict goes to a Sane environment where there is no drug to buy, he will suffer for sometime and gradually adapt to the new environment. Same thing can be said of gambling. But with online gambling and a forum like this, a gambling addict will not change since he could always come online.

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Quote from: Fatunad on July 18, 2022, 06:22:43 PM

If a gambler do end up on a place where he cant possibly seen any gambling places for him to hang on then he would really be having that changed of impressions but if his addiction is on that severe state then he might really be still ending up on playing with online casinos

Gamblers will find a way to gamble. There is a lot of convenient and easy way nowadays to do gambling. For that person that is being sent to an environment where no gambling stuff will be seen, it should also be accompanied by other prevention methods such as doing what rehabilitation centers do to help that gambler forget about gambling. They should refer at experts at that field to give them preferences on what to do with this type of people.

And even then finding an environment in which it is impossible to gamble is incredibly difficult to do, we need to remember that now online gambling is incredibly popular and in fact I will not be surprised if online gambling is now more popular than regular gambling which was done at physical casinos, so unless a person decides to disconnect completely from digital devices like a computer and a smartphone then it is almost impossible to find such an environment, and even if you could find such an environment it is impossible to remain in that environment forever.

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Quote from: michellee on July 17, 2022, 11:35:41 AM

Quote from: Reatim on July 17, 2022, 06:40:53 AM

it is effective in some part but this will still depend on our wanting , because even how changing locations we do but if we will keep seeking for gambling places then ? what is the sense actually?
I'm afraid that all we wanted is different from what we are doing if that happens.

change place if you are ready to leave addiction , of course with your family that supporting you.

There will still be a possibility that we will return to looking for a gambling place around our new residence and we may ask people in our neighborhood. We hope to find a casino there, which can happen if we don't have a busy day.

so that is better to find a place where gambling isn't active for community so the chance of seeking for gambling was not there and better.

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But if we can immediately mingle with the people around us and join in many activities, it will prevent us from thinking about gambling so we won't have time to find where the casinos are around us.

Just make sure that those people you are going to mingle are not gambling active and not something that will lure you to gamble again.

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This is why we need our families' support to help us change the situation that has happened to us so that we can cure that gambling addiction.

exactly , our family and friends are one of the best tools for us to really leave a gambling world because if not? then you will be dead forever.

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Quote from: Fatunad on July 18, 2022, 06:22:43 PM

If a gambler do end up on a place where he cant possibly seen any gambling places for him to hang on then he would really be having that changed of impressions but if his addiction is on that severe state then he might really be still ending up on playing with online casinos

Gamblers will find a way to gamble. There is a lot of convenient and easy way nowadays to do gambling. For that person that is being sent to an environment where no gambling stuff will be seen, it should also be accompanied by other prevention methods such as doing what rehabilitation centers do to help that gambler forget about gambling. They should refer at experts at that field to give them preferences on what to do with this type of people.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 18, 2022, 01:10:02 PM

I do not agree with you because the main share of gambling advertising is on the Internet, and nowadays more and more people play gambling online. I learned about gambling as a child. At that time even if there was internet (dial-up) not everyone could afford the service, not to mention the lack of gambling sites. Today many bloggers with a huge number of subscribers advertise gambling, so a large percentage of today's generation learns about gambling through the Internet.

Change of environment surly can have an impact on the gamblers - but the main thing is one should have serious desire to get rid of addiction
If one is not adamant to do what he thinks - then no-one can bring in any change.

This discussion it's not meant to be argue much because everybody have notice that changing of environment can change the mentality of a gambler can also change the seriousness of gambling so if a gambler is in the state or environment which everybody into the environment is not interested in gambling the person way of thinking in the gambling will change. So that is the nature of habitat and evolution

If a gambler do end up on a place where he cant possibly seen any gambling places for him to hang on then he would really be having that changed of impressions but if his addiction is on that severe
state then he might really be still ending up on playing with online casinos which are available since we do know that it is really just easy on accessing platforms with just few clicks or taps.
If you are really still have access or does have mobile phone or pc then high chances that you would really be considering out this kind of option even though its a bit off into your interest
but since it do still talks about gambling then it would be on your consideration on doing it again.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 18, 2022, 01:10:02 PM

I do not agree with you because the main share of gambling advertising is on the Internet, and nowadays more and more people play gambling online. I learned about gambling as a child. At that time even if there was internet (dial-up) not everyone could afford the service, not to mention the lack of gambling sites. Today many bloggers with a huge number of subscribers advertise gambling, so a large percentage of today's generation learns about gambling through the Internet.

Change of environment surly can have an impact on the gamblers - but the main thing is one should have serious desire to get rid of addiction
If one is not adamant to do what he thinks - then no-one can bring in any change.

This discussion it's not meant to be argue much because everybody have notice that changing of environment can change the mentality of a gambler can also change the seriousness of gambling so if a gambler is in the state or environment which everybody into the environment is not interested in gambling the person way of thinking in the gambling will change. So that is the nature of habitat and evolution

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 18, 2022, 01:10:02 PM

I do not agree with you because the main share of gambling advertising is on the Internet, and nowadays more and more people play gambling online. I learned about gambling as a child. At that time even if there was internet (dial-up) not everyone could afford the service, not to mention the lack of gambling sites. Today many bloggers with a huge number of subscribers advertise gambling, so a large percentage of today's generation learns about gambling through the Internet.

Change of environment surly can have an impact on the gamblers - but the main thing is one should have serious desire to get rid of addiction
If one is not adamant to do what he thinks - then no-one can bring in any change.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 18, 2022, 01:10:02 PM

I do not agree with you because the main share of gambling advertising is on the Internet, and nowadays more and more people play gambling online. I learned about gambling as a child. At that time even if there was internet (dial-up) not everyone could afford the service, not to mention the lack of gambling sites. Today many bloggers with a huge number of subscribers advertise gambling, so a large percentage of today's generation learns about gambling through the Internet.

Yes change in environment do affect the attitude of the people.
WE also move to other places for sometime when we are depressed and want a break -that is what everyone does. And that is the best approach to do.

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I absolutely agree with your opinion. The Internet has made gambling more widespread and promoted. But even if there were no Internet we would play cards or dice in the kitchen at night. Mankind has been gambling since ancient times, as evidenced by the dice that have been found more than a thousand years old.

Internet has got nothing to do with it except making it easier for many people to access gambling if they wanted to.A fun example would be from what I have learned from locals where I live that during the communist era that run for near 50 years here people still gambled despite it being illegal and you could get in jail for several years if caught.The gamblers here played at that time near a football club place of training and they were caught by the police who were wearing the uniform of that soccer team and put all of them to jail.This didn't stop as gamblers still continued to gamble no matter these high risks,it means it is true gambling is in our nature and we can't stop it no matter how hard we try.

I do not agree with you because the main share of gambling advertising is on the Internet, and nowadays more and more people play gambling online. I learned about gambling as a child. At that time even if there was internet (dial-up) not everyone could afford the service, not to mention the lack of gambling sites. Today many bloggers with a huge number of subscribers advertise gambling, so a large percentage of today's generation learns about gambling through the Internet.

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I our culture - migration is a very important thing.
PEople do migrate when things are not in their favour from city or from a country. This brings in change of environment and attitude.

Totally you have a deviated from the particular place we are discussing and the our point of view it's not really what you discuss. Environment a young adult find itself can change a adult if the adult is not well arranged in knowledge to become gambling addicted can be determined through the environment you find yourself and it will become gambling free can be also be assured through the environment you find yourself so this work like trade by barter

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 17, 2022, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on July 17, 2022, 04:29:13 PM

If we live in times when the internet isn't available then it is impossible to develop a gambling disorder because there is no factor to affect that since you nullified the possibility of outside factors affecting the subject.

But gambling was formed way back ages.

For sure on that time, some people also develop a gambling disorder too.
Ever since gambling was introduced to the world, there's always been a disorder that will happen.

Of course, as technology evolves, the cause of the disorder was also changing.

Many of us may not know exactly where the craze for gambling originated, but it has been around form ancient period of time. primitive people had to go to a certain place to gamble, but with the modernization of technology, gambling can now be played at home. So those ancient diseases are still there in this technological world and will be as long as the earth lasts. As a result we see how the gambling industry is becoming established in a short period of time. So I think there is no way out from here unless self controlling.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 18, 2022, 02:04:53 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on July 17, 2022, 04:29:13 PM

If we live in times when the internet isn't available then it is impossible to develop a gambling disorder because there is no factor to affect that since you nullified the possibility of outside factors affecting the subject. But we are in a world where everything is almost done online, this bridges the gap between an individual and the gambling casinos. If the subject has access to gambling casinos online and plays then there is a chance that the subject will develop gambling problems because he is now actively involving himself in gambling activities online.

I think you are forgetting something, that gambling existed before the creation of the internet, gambling culture is developing all over the world with different backgrounds, I think from a long time ago there are many people who are addicted to traditional gambling. So I don't think the problem is with technology or the internet. maybe if you say something like : that the current development of the internet is contributing to a bad influence on gambling addiction. I will agree.

I think what he meant was that it's impossible to change environments nowadays because the internet is used everywhere, and if you have a gambling addiction, even if you're alone at home you can still go to any casino site and continue gambling without any problems. You can't disagree with that - the internet or the smartphone develops new habits.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 18, 2022, 02:04:53 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on July 17, 2022, 04:29:13 PM

If we live in times when the internet isn't available then it is impossible to develop a gambling disorder because there is no factor to affect that since you nullified the possibility of outside factors affecting the subject. But we are in a world where everything is almost done online, this bridges the gap between an individual and the gambling casinos. If the subject has access to gambling casinos online and plays then there is a chance that the subject will develop gambling problems because he is now actively involving himself in gambling activities online.

I think you are forgetting something, that gambling existed before the creation of the internet, gambling culture is developing all over the world with different backgrounds, I think from a long time ago there are many people who are addicted to traditional gambling. So I don't think the problem is with technology or the internet. maybe if you say something like : that the current development of the internet is contributing to a bad influence on gambling addiction. I will agree.

The development of the internet has not only contributed to the influence of gambling, the development of the internet has contributed to all aspects of life, both good and bad. But apart from the internet, I agree about traditional gambling and I've also said before that remote villages are easier for traditional gambling. The social life that is still very thick in remote villages will at least make it easier for them to gamble, for example, such as cockfighting and other traditional gambling. So now people who are already addicted to gambling are themselves the ones who will help to quit the addiction themselves, next of course they need experts to guide and realize it.

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