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March 16, 2017, 05:22:42 PM
Well today (or at least I should say yesterday because it's early in the morning) there was a national election in the Netherlands and the same status-quo liberal candidate came out on top with the right-wing populist (similar to Trump) ended out in a tight second. These were just the first rounds of elections, and because there is not a lot of unity on the right in that country, the results are expected to be interesting.

The reason I bring this up is because people were expecting (or hoping) that the populist would end up winning the election -- and he lost. So could this theoretically happen in France with Marine Le Pen? Bear in mind both countries are totally different. I believe the dutch are less open to populism right now and the French are.

France has suffered through a historic amount of terrorism from radicals and thus Marine Le Pen is most likely more favourable. Additionally, she has been leading all French polls and, with a month left before the election, she's still got an extraordinary lead.

After analyzing the Netherlands' situation, I knew the populist wouldn't win simply because they weren't ready. But you cannot be too naive towards people who are mad.

The US was mad. Super mad for their failed policies on both sides of the spectrum. They voted Trump.

France is super mad because their values have been lost. They will vote Le Pen.
Having looked at all that happens in different countries, with those who come to power and who are candidates for the first posts of states, it can be confidently said that something bad is going on and very large scales. I'm sometimes very surprised at the choice people make, as if he's blind.
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March 16, 2017, 06:42:25 AM
If trump won in USA, there is no reason for Le Pen not to. France is a way more nationalist country than both Britain and USA.

And now nationalism is favored worldwide, globalism is no more.

Nope. France is a typical European democracy, with the general population leaning much more left-liberal when compared to the United States. Also, the National Front lacks a solid voter group like the Evangelical Christians of the Southern United States.
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March 15, 2017, 11:34:08 PM
Well today (or at least I should say yesterday because it's early in the morning) there was a national election in the Netherlands and the same status-quo liberal candidate came out on top with the right-wing populist (similar to Trump) ended out in a tight second. These were just the first rounds of elections, and because there is not a lot of unity on the right in that country, the results are expected to be interesting.

The reason I bring this up is because people were expecting (or hoping) that the populist would end up winning the election -- and he lost. So could this theoretically happen in France with Marine Le Pen? Bear in mind both countries are totally different. I believe the dutch are less open to populism right now and the French are.

France has suffered through a historic amount of terrorism from radicals and thus Marine Le Pen is most likely more favourable. Additionally, she has been leading all French polls and, with a month left before the election, she's still got an extraordinary lead.

After analyzing the Netherlands' situation, I knew the populist wouldn't win simply because they weren't ready. But you cannot be too naive towards people who are mad.

The US was mad. Super mad for their failed policies on both sides of the spectrum. They voted Trump.

France is super mad because their values have been lost. They will vote Le Pen.
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March 15, 2017, 09:53:28 PM
If trump won in USA, there is no reason for Le Pen not to. France is a way more nationalist country than both Britain and USA.

And now nationalism is favored worldwide, globalism is no more.

For our Dutch friends on the forum, was curious: how did the elections play out socially around you today? Was it a shock (kinda like Trump in the US), in the way that most of the people you associate with were surprised at the outcome? I'm surprised; the handling of the Turkey thing was a plus; but Gert has a wicked following, and populism is the flavor du jour. Thoughts?
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March 15, 2017, 08:21:37 AM
If trump won in USA, there is no reason for Le Pen not to. France is a way more nationalist country than both Britain and USA.

And now nationalism is favored worldwide, globalism is no more.
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March 15, 2017, 08:17:54 AM
I think she has enough chances to win. If the French want to survive, they will have to vote for Marin Le Pen.
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March 14, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
Marine Le Pen would be a good leader for France, because she can start good relationships with Russia and China. Without this France will still be useless country, with no economy.

Marine Le Pen will help France in strengthening its relations with Russia, China, and the United States. But at the same time, the currently cordial relations with Germany and the other EU allies will sour. It is going to be a very difficult choice for the French.
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March 14, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
Marin Le Pen is too aggressive and her victory is doubtful. In the second round will be able to pass, but on the account of victory I doubt.
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March 13, 2017, 07:51:32 AM
Marine Le Pen would be a good leader for France, because she can start good relationships with Russia and China. Without this France will still be useless country, with no economy.
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March 13, 2017, 03:19:00 AM
I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
I don't think the French have something to gain from what comes out of the Eurozone and especially do not believe that the return of Frank revive the economy of France.

They are not gaining anything by continuing to use the Euro. Just check how much value the currency has lost versus the United States Dollar, during the last two or three years. I have a feeling that the Franc won't do much worse.
When the Euro appeared, he also rapidly gained its price. This led to the fact that to buy goods in America became more profitable. Who knows, maybe a cheap Euro is good for Europe.

The devaluation of the Euro is a double edged sword. For sure it can make the exports from the European Union more competitive. But at the same time, the inflation will go up, and the bank savings will be worth less.
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March 12, 2017, 03:07:20 PM
I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
I don't think the French have something to gain from what comes out of the Eurozone and especially do not believe that the return of Frank revive the economy of France.

They are not gaining anything by continuing to use the Euro. Just check how much value the currency has lost versus the United States Dollar, during the last two or three years. I have a feeling that the Franc won't do much worse.
When the Euro appeared, he also rapidly gained its price. This led to the fact that to buy goods in America became more profitable. Who knows, maybe a cheap Euro is good for Europe.
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March 12, 2017, 01:43:37 PM
Common sense suggests that in the presidential race in France, the leader of the party "National Front" Marín Le Pen will go into the second round, and then lose his opponent, whoever he is, with a crash.

This is something that most pundits and people are probably going to think all the way up to the election, and I personally am one to think it's going to end up just like the US election ended up. With all the pundits being flat out wrong about the ratings and the polls + all the bullshit they were attempting to spew.

In all honesty, it is better for the people to think that it's going to be a landslide victory in Round 2 based on the fact that less of the opponents party people are going to come out and vote against Le Pen. This is the same thing that happened in the US, when Dems thought they had it in the bag so a lot of them didn't vote.

She's going to defy all odds, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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March 11, 2017, 11:24:47 AM
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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
I don't think the French have something to gain from what comes out of the Eurozone and especially do not believe that the return of Frank revive the economy of France.

They are not gaining anything by continuing to use the Euro. Just check how much value the currency has lost versus the United States Dollar, during the last two or three years. I have a feeling that the Franc won't do much worse.
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March 11, 2017, 07:53:37 AM
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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
I don't think the French have something to gain from what comes out of the Eurozone and especially do not believe that the return of Frank revive the economy of France.
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March 11, 2017, 07:48:36 AM
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Common sense suggests that in the presidential race in France, the leader of the party "National Front" Marín Le Pen will go into the second round, and then lose his opponent, whoever he is, with a crash.
This is what normally had happened but now you have to considerate Trump's victory, the fact that if Front Nacional lose Marine le Pen will retirate and that they will probably not have other chance like this to win presidency so will try to win.
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March 11, 2017, 06:55:39 AM
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Common sense suggests that in the presidential race in France, the leader of the party "National Front" Marín Le Pen will go into the second round, and then lose his opponent, whoever he is, with a crash.
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March 10, 2017, 01:20:06 AM
#95
I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
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March 09, 2017, 08:41:13 AM
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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.
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March 09, 2017, 05:34:06 AM
#93
Orthodox fascism in Russia. Real video with Russian fascists. What more proof is needed, that Russia is now feeding the real fascists. Putin only says that fights against fascism, and he is an exact copy of Hitler.
https://youtu.be/HmXu6G7DTsM

Yeah sure... a few random videos, which were taken 20 years back is your proof of fascism in Russia. You butt-hurt Ukrainian trolls need to get a life. The real fascists are your heroes, such as Poroshenko, Tymoshenko and Semenchenko.
Leave your propaganda for the Russian. Because in addition to them in such nonsense, nobody believes. Call at least one symptom of the fascism that you see in the behavior of these entities. Your Putin and more fall under the definition of fascism.
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March 09, 2017, 03:28:48 AM
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Less than 1 1/2 month before the first round of the presidential elections, Marine Le Pen is stronger than ever. Polls predict a comfortable victory on April 23 and the momentum is with her. The political conditions assist. Le Pen strengthen the weaknesses of her opponents. But at the international level, the Brexit, Donald Trump, the Beppe Grillo and now Martin Schulz sweep "systemic" candidates who until recently seemed to be safe. On the other side France's electoral system has developed institutional safeguards to maintain stability. According to the so-called "democratic discipline" in the first round you vote who you want. In the second one you vote against whom you fear. This time the french voters have really lost their faith in traditional political parties and they will not vote to support anyone. All they will vote against someone.
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