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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?

But that is not the way it works if what you said was correct then no one will play on those machines and everyone will wait until someone begins to play and look if the player wins anything, the truth is those machines have a big house edge that is why you may see a player there for a long time without winning for a long time.

I think it is no much pretty necessary that you are knowledgeable in math in order to win game maybe the factors to win is by controlling the situation, tactics and strategy for any bet and above all dont give up the spirit to win and dont lose the positive mindset.

To calculate all about the limitations and the spending affordability math knowledge is a must. Above this math helps in winning certain events, but the same won't gets repeated. Each event gets developed based on different calculations, so one can't master everything.

Math is always a must in gambling because gambling is ruled by statistics which is a just a specialized field of math. The thing is that it will not function with out math because it really deals with probabilities. When we gamble we can make use of math but that doesn't really help too much since we cannot really influence the outcome of the games.

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Quote from: Bellator on October 10, 2017, 05:34:11 PM

Quote from: South Park on October 08, 2017, 05:35:38 PM

Quote from: Bezobraznike on October 07, 2017, 05:49:48 PM

Quote from: Bolt Brownie on October 07, 2017, 05:17:28 PM

Quote from: Pab on October 07, 2017, 04:42:32 PM

If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?

But that is not the way it works if what you said was correct then no one will play on those machines and everyone will wait until someone begins to play and look if the player wins anything, the truth is those machines have a big house edge that is why you may see a player there for a long time without winning for a long time.

I think it is no much pretty necessary that you are knowledgeable in math in order to win game maybe the factors to win is by controlling the situation, tactics and strategy for any bet and above all dont give up the spirit to win and dont lose the positive mindset.

To calculate all about the limitations and the spending affordability math knowledge is a must. Above this math helps in winning certain events, but the same won't gets repeated. Each event gets developed based on different calculations, so one can't master everything.

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Quote from: South Park on October 08, 2017, 05:35:38 PM

Quote from: Bezobraznike on October 07, 2017, 05:49:48 PM

Quote from: Bolt Brownie on October 07, 2017, 05:17:28 PM

Quote from: Pab on October 07, 2017, 04:42:32 PM

If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?

But that is not the way it works if what you said was correct then no one will play on those machines and everyone will wait until someone begins to play and look if the player wins anything, the truth is those machines have a big house edge that is why you may see a player there for a long time without winning for a long time.

I think it is no much pretty necessary that you are knowledgeable in math in order to win game maybe the factors to win is by controlling the situation, tactics and strategy for any bet and above all dont give up the spirit to win and dont lose the positive mindset.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on October 10, 2017, 12:24:36 PM

I think math only helps you to determine how much profit you would get and how much chance you get to win the rolls or the games. Gambling just pure luck skills unlike poker and blackjack which using logic to maintain the games. It's kind of random chance to win if playing dice or minesweeper games.

if you can calculate well and you can control yourself and just to have limitations and targets maybe math can help you out to win some
but if you will keep playing and you will rely your games with your mathematically strategy then for sure you will lose in the long run
as many factors will affect your calculations in the long period of playing.

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I think math only helps you to determine how much profit you would get and how much chance you get to win the rolls or the games. Gambling just pure luck skills unlike poker and blackjack which using logic to maintain the games. It's kind of random chance to win if playing dice or minesweeper games.

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Quote from: mindfly09 on October 03, 2017, 10:17:47 PM

There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.

I think yes but not in all the games, because some games are just by chance. Maths can help only in the games of numbers like lottery tickets. I also play the same game. I buy a ticket and the number is selected by me and all is about a routine formula. If I make a good game according to the previous result I can win a lottery otherwise in ten thousands numbers I have just one chance to win.

Probably math could be a useful tool for a gamblers but it is just a little help for them to even win the game. Most of the casinos have their own security measures to prevent you from using any other skills/cheat if that's what they call it or else you will be ban from their casino. At least you could have use your skills in math in computing and counting your winnings or how much money left in your account.

yes i also think that they may not allow you to use any support tool that can help you in winning the bet, but i think that still if you are doing oral calculation and using your assumption, i do not think that there can be any restriction to use your skill or any other calculation for which you are using your mind and skill. But i think that math can help in some specific gambling game and not in all sorts of gambling games, specially in dice and slots games.

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Quote from: mindfly09 on October 03, 2017, 10:17:47 PM

There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.

I think yes but not in all the games, because some games are just by chance. Maths can help only in the games of numbers like lottery tickets. I also play the same game. I buy a ticket and the number is selected by me and all is about a routine formula. If I make a good game according to the previous result I can win a lottery otherwise in ten thousands numbers I have just one chance to win.

Probably math could be a useful tool for a gamblers but it is just a little help for them to even win the game. Most of the casinos have their own security measures to prevent you from using any other skills/cheat if that's what they call it or else you will be ban from their casino. At least you could have use your skills in math in computing and counting your winnings or how much money left in your account.

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Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling. Wink

Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.

I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.

Gambling is meant to be pure entertainment and basically should be for fun and just that alone. No matter how good a gambler is in mathematics, it can only be of little assistance in understanding the game faster and applying a little bit of the knowledge in playing, anything else is just luck and without that, there is nothing that can be done to always win the house every time.

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Quote from: eann014 on October 08, 2017, 06:35:27 AM

Quote from: mindfly09 on October 03, 2017, 10:17:47 PM

There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.

I think yes but not in all the games, because some games are just by chance. Maths can help only in the games of numbers like lottery tickets. I also play the same game. I buy a ticket and the number is selected by me and all is about a routine formula. If I make a good game according to the previous result I can win a lottery otherwise in ten thousands numbers I have just one chance to win.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on October 07, 2017, 05:49:48 PM

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Quote from: Pab on October 07, 2017, 04:42:32 PM

If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?

But that is not the way it works if what you said was correct then no one will play on those machines and everyone will wait until someone begins to play and look if the player wins anything, the truth is those machines have a big house edge that is why you may see a player there for a long time without winning for a long time.

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Quote from: mindfly09 on October 03, 2017, 10:17:47 PM

There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.

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Quote from: Bolt Brownie on October 07, 2017, 05:17:28 PM

Quote from: Pab on October 07, 2017, 04:42:32 PM

If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?

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Quote from: Pab on October 07, 2017, 04:42:32 PM

If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

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If people were able to understand that when you have 50% chance you have that for every bet no matter how many bets or how many reds in a row you got, no one would play anymore. If you get black black, the chances of getting another black are the same as when you started yet there are still a lot of people who think that waiting for a streak of blacks and betting on red will make them win.

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Quote from: justdimin on October 02, 2017, 08:56:13 AM

Quote from: StonedWolf on September 30, 2017, 11:39:43 AM

Definitely mathematics can help to win in gambling, and here we're talking about statistics and probabilities that are directly related to those games.
Since all gambling games are based on these two sciences in order to guarantee the gain for the owner, however it is necessary to mention that this science is not easy to master at all.

Statistics and probability cannot help us becoming the winner of a dice game or a slot game. It cannot bless a roulette player with victory every time or even most of the time but some simple operators can help us in staying safe by calculating the total loss. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

I also have the same view as yours. I think that being good at Math is not really helpful to you in the game of gambling.

It is entirely dependent upon the luck of a person or somewhat upon the experience that what he might have got through playing it on daily basis or so. If a person is not good at math at all, even then he could make up a win through his present mindedness and skills.

Well there's really no definitive answer to the question because gambling has several forms and mathematical analysis can make a difference depending on what game you're playing.

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Quote from: justdimin on October 02, 2017, 08:56:13 AM

Quote from: StonedWolf on September 30, 2017, 11:39:43 AM

Definitely mathematics can help to win in gambling, and here we're talking about statistics and probabilities that are directly related to those games.
Since all gambling games are based on these two sciences in order to guarantee the gain for the owner, however it is necessary to mention that this science is not easy to master at all.

Statistics and probability cannot help us becoming the winner of a dice game or a slot game. It cannot bless a roulette player with victory every time or even most of the time but some simple operators can help us in staying safe by calculating the total loss. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

I also have the same view as yours. I think that being good at Math is not really helpful to you in the game of gambling.

It is entirely dependent upon the luck of a person or somewhat upon the experience that what he might have got through playing it on daily basis or so. If a person is not good at math at all, even then he could make up a win through his present mindedness and skills.

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You can significantly increase your chances of winning at the gambling if you know exactly which slot to play, how much to bet on it and what tactics to use. All players that are playing at any online casino Netent are on the same servers. The slots of the Swedish developer behave the same as when playing for real money, like in free play mode, and it can be useful. We already wrote about it in this article.
Summing up the most important parts:
-You can filter the profitable slots by testing the video slots in free play mode.
-You will know exactly, how many coins to bet and what the bet rate of a slot is.
-You'll know when to stop playing.

Sorry, but what is this exactly? Are trying to say that it is possible to calculate which slots are better to play and what bets should be made? Like it was told here million times, make money for yourself then. Why share this information? Become a millionaire and then start a charity if you want to be a good guy.

It is similar to all of those people selling money making methods, if your money methods worked you will not be selling them, but it is obvious why they are selling their methods of making money since their method is to sell useless money making methods to people that should know better.

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Gambling is hard to predict and even you'll learn different methods, including Math techniques, strategies and other stuffs there's nothing that lasts a life time on this. In types of control, the only thing that I can think of that Math will help us in gambling is by managing but not with winning. Managing your money, yes there's a help on it because you are controlling yourself not to gamble in rage.

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Upto a point it can be proved as worthy but after that point no math can help you in winning however you can get lucky upto a point but no chance to win forever.

What point are you pointing to exactly? I don't think there is such a thing. In gambling if you have a working method that involves math then that will likely help you out, especially if you are gambling in the sports books available to you. Since in sports books there is a chance to win or lose , you can improve these chances if you used math to totally imprve your chances of winning any game.

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, and gambling actually involved math, so Math really hels. People think that the only way to win in gambling is being "lucky" but I can say they are partly correct if luck really exisit. The thing that signals that you win is when you quit with the won amount in your money. Math helps in this. Just by doing basic math, if you checked that you are in a positive then quit

By doing so, you just add the total money less the bankroll. Isn't that math? Grin

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