Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 34.

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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I don't believe in what is written in this article. For me, winning at roulette is just a great success. All these calculations are just nonsense.

People can do some calculations while playing gambling, for example in roulette game they can see how many rounds the ball will run usually and what is the previous number and they can calculate next what number will come. This is all just assumptions there is no guarantee that is why they will put multiple bets. This is what I know about this calculation in gambling others what they do I don't know.

You can't just calculate based on how many rounds in previous round it was turned because it also depends on how fast it was turned and that speed I don't think people can guess it. I don't think this game you can guess by any kind of calculation and you will get results just based on your luck. In card games and sports betting these calculations may help some extent but no guaranty that you will win your bet.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I don't believe in what is written in this article. For me, winning at roulette is just a great success. All these calculations are just nonsense.

People can do some calculations while playing gambling, for example in roulette game they can see how many rounds the ball will run usually and what is the previous number and they can calculate next what number will come. This is all just assumptions there is no guarantee that is why they will put multiple bets. This is what I know about this calculation in gambling others what they do I don't know.

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Quote from: DrGuns4Hands on October 31, 2017, 07:13:37 AM

It really depends on the type of gambling . but yes math can help us on winning gambling because using math you can analyze your earnings and lose in that thing you can know when to stop and add it on your strategy so you can make a good profit in gambling. without any greediness you can make a tons of money.

As you can read on OP math is being referred on the winning chance of the game you are taking. Maths can be used and made some analysis but it wont really guarantee you to make some winnings knowing that gambling games on those sites dont really have patterns but yet these kind of ways would really give some entertainment and enjoyment if you do hit up some winnings but im really sure that this ways doesnt really last long.

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It really depends on the type of gambling . but yes math can help us on winning gambling because using math you can analyze your earnings and lose in that thing you can know when to stop and add it on your strategy so you can make a good profit in gambling. without any greediness you can make a tons of money.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I don't believe in what is written in this article. For me, winning at roulette is just a great success. All these calculations are just nonsense.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In mathematics it requires you to have an analization skills for you to solve the proble. In connection with gambling , here it really needs your analization to analyze the game for you win it. So just analyze and expect winnings.

Some game like poker or blackjack can implement math for their calculation. But I think it need complex calculation in order to predict the next card.
IMO, luck and guts the main factor for gambling rather than math although in the past, some gambler able win $ 500.000 because of math.

Using maths in Poker is not about predicting the next card, it's about playing the odds and making calculations where you base it off of your chances of beating this or that hand in a matter of thousands of hands. Probability I guess is the word. As for Blackjack that's a different thing altogether. Who won $500k using maths?

If we're talking about gambling in general, figuring out the math of things won't really cut it for you. It's about developing a good gutfeel and knowing the right timing for things. There probably are a few games where analyzing the math could be advantageous but not on all gambling games

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In mathematics it requires you to have an analization skills for you to solve the proble. In connection with gambling , here it really needs your analization to analyze the game for you win it. So just analyze and expect winnings.

Some game like poker or blackjack can implement math for their calculation. But I think it need complex calculation in order to predict the next card.
IMO, luck and guts the main factor for gambling rather than math although in the past, some gambler able win $ 500.000 because of math.

Did he really win it by math without any other factor like luck? I would never believe any news about winning gamblers because of math as I do not believe that math can make gamblers always win. No matters how great his skill in reading cards but I'm sure that he still need a great luck as well to win.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In mathematics it requires you to have an analization skills for you to solve the proble. In connection with gambling , here it really needs your analization to analyze the game for you win it. So just analyze and expect winnings.

Some game like poker or blackjack can implement math for their calculation. But I think it need complex calculation in order to predict the next card.
IMO, luck and guts the main factor for gambling rather than math although in the past, some gambler able win $ 500.000 because of math.

Using maths in Poker is not about predicting the next card, it's about playing the odds and making calculations where you base it off of your chances of beating this or that hand in a matter of thousands of hands. Probability I guess is the word. As for Blackjack that's a different thing altogether. Who won $500k using maths?

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In mathematics it requires you to have an analization skills for you to solve the proble. In connection with gambling , here it really needs your analization to analyze the game for you win it. So just analyze and expect winnings.

Some game like poker or blackjack can implement math for their calculation. But I think it need complex calculation in order to predict the next card.
IMO, luck and guts the main factor for gambling rather than math although in the past, some gambler able win $ 500.000 because of math.

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I am not really sure that math can help you win in gambling. Math can serve as a guide in terms in profit calculation but never can increase the chance of your winning. It can help you create a good bot script using a good logic but again it will not help you win the game. Still its all base on your luck.

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I think math only helps you to determine how much profit you would get and how much chance you get to win the rolls or the games. Gambling just pure luck skills unlike poker and blackjack which using logic to maintain the games. It's kind of random chance to win if playing dice or minesweeper games.

Yes i agree with you playing and winning in gambling is purely luck. Even if you are an expert in mathematics it won't help you win just like a friend of mine who is very good in math and a gambler he sometimes applied his expertise in mathematics but not all the time he won when he gamble. So i can say that its not based on that.

Yeah, it is fact in gambling way that without luck you couldn't win but about mathematics, i am not using any math in gambling, may be my way of playing games is simple but instead of it, i am in profit because usually i play sports betting and in it we take the decision behalf of our experience and not see the math.

I think you need math in sports betting because you need to analyze the statistics, if you only gamble based on luck then there is no difference with luck based games and skilled based games, I do consider sports betting as a skilled based games because it's challenging and if you spend more time and focus on it you have a chance to be successful in the long run.

In sports betting we get the advantage by being able to take statistics or can analyze it, it is a profit point for us. If we ignore math in sports betting means we've wasted our chances, downplaying our chances. Math is not required in gambling except in sport betting.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In mathematics it requires you to have an analization skills for you to solve the proble. In connection with gambling , here it really needs your analization to analyze the game for you win it. So just analyze and expect winnings.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on October 10, 2017, 11:24:36 AM

I think math only helps you to determine how much profit you would get and how much chance you get to win the rolls or the games. Gambling just pure luck skills unlike poker and blackjack which using logic to maintain the games. It's kind of random chance to win if playing dice or minesweeper games.

Yes i agree with you playing and winning in gambling is purely luck. Even if you are an expert in mathematics it won't help you win just like a friend of mine who is very good in math and a gambler he sometimes applied his expertise in mathematics but not all the time he won when he gamble. So i can say that its not based on that.

Yeah, it is fact in gambling way that without luck you couldn't win but about mathematics, i am not using any math in gambling, may be my way of playing games is simple but instead of it, i am in profit because usually i play sports betting and in it we take the decision behalf of our experience and not see the math.

I think you need math in sports betting because you need to analyze the statistics, if you only gamble based on luck then there is no difference with luck based games and skilled based games, I do consider sports betting as a skilled based games because it's challenging and if you spend more time and focus on it you have a chance to be successful in the long run.

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There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.

I think yes but not in all the games, because some games are just by chance. Maths can help only in the games of numbers like lottery tickets. I also play the same game. I buy a ticket and the number is selected by me and all is about a routine formula. If I make a good game according to the previous result I can win a lottery otherwise in ten thousands numbers I have just one chance to win.

Lol i even assume if you do the math you will avoid to gamble at all.
You know it is because of its -EV , in the long run gambling mathematically will burn you down slowly.
Nothing can help you to win in gambling but luck , believe that math is so accurate with its probability , wake up from your dream!

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Quote from: sulendra12 on October 10, 2017, 11:24:36 AM

I think math only helps you to determine how much profit you would get and how much chance you get to win the rolls or the games. Gambling just pure luck skills unlike poker and blackjack which using logic to maintain the games. It's kind of random chance to win if playing dice or minesweeper games.

Yes i agree with you playing and winning in gambling is purely luck. Even if you are an expert in mathematics it won't help you win just like a friend of mine who is very good in math and a gambler he sometimes applied his expertise in mathematics but not all the time he won when he gamble. So i can say that its not based on that.

Yeah, it is fact in gambling way that without luck you couldn't win but about mathematics, i am not using any math in gambling, may be my way of playing games is simple but instead of it, i am in profit because usually i play sports betting and in it we take the decision behalf of our experience and not see the math.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on October 10, 2017, 11:24:36 AM

I think math only helps you to determine how much profit you would get and how much chance you get to win the rolls or the games. Gambling just pure luck skills unlike poker and blackjack which using logic to maintain the games. It's kind of random chance to win if playing dice or minesweeper games.

Yes i agree with you playing and winning in gambling is purely luck. Even if you are an expert in mathematics it won't help you win just like a friend of mine who is very good in math and a gambler he sometimes applied his expertise in mathematics but not all the time he won when he gamble. So i can say that its not based on that.

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Some statistics can be useful when gambling on sports, but that's why they call it gambling; you can never tell if you're going to win or not. It is not science, it depends mostly on luck and a little experience may help. Maths can't help you when you gamble. Being a sports gambler, i read statistics before everytime i gamble, but i don't know if you call that maths.

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If you want win slots that it can be hard with maths.It has been discovered that so called fair online casinos are runing secret softwere on the background,so rather good hacker is needed,but if you win huge money thay will find thousends of reason to block your withdrawn

Well if you had some insight information that a casino was doing that, then are you sure it would be wise to actually invest there and try to exploit it?
I don't think that's good. First that would mean that the Casino wasn't honest, so you would do a better work exposing them and protecting other customers, than to exploit it for personal gain. Also, if you ignored that, and try to do it anyway, if they ere cheating then of course they wouldn't let you withdraw the money, so what would be the point in trying it? I don't think how you could win here, except from doing the right thing and exposing them.

You do not need insight information about that, that is truth. All video games are programs, what they
do is setting up the winning limit, 10% 20% 30%. Machine will not give you high win if there is not enough
money accumulated from players who lost money playing it.
I have friend that like to play this slots, video pokers, some fruits, and he always look who play some slot
in casino and if that person did not won anything for that time he hurry to sit after and play it.
Big wins eventually comes, but to whom and after how many spins, or hands, turns, call it as you like?
If casino is not letting you to withdraw you money then something is wrong with that casino. I do not
have much experience with online gambling, what can I do if something like that happen to me?

But that is not the way it works if what you said was correct then no one will play on those machines and everyone will wait until someone begins to play and look if the player wins anything, the truth is those machines have a big house edge that is why you may see a player there for a long time without winning for a long time.

I think it is no much pretty necessary that you are knowledgeable in math in order to win game maybe the factors to win is by controlling the situation, tactics and strategy for any bet and above all dont give up the spirit to win and dont lose the positive mindset.

To calculate all about the limitations and the spending affordability math knowledge is a must. Above this math helps in winning certain events, but the same won't gets repeated. Each event gets developed based on different calculations, so one can't master everything.

Math is always a must in gambling because gambling is ruled by statistics which is a just a specialized field of math. The thing is that it will not function with out math because it really deals with probabilities. When we gamble we can make use of math but that doesn't really help too much since we cannot really influence the outcome of the games.

Exactly this! We can use the math to figure out what our chances are (You won't be happy when you find out), and then decide if it's worth it or not. It will never help us predict the future though, and since most games are random you'd have to be in the fortune telling business to figure out how to win rather than the math business.

Maths can give you a pretty good choice of winning, you will be able to figure out how many chances of success you are going to have to win a game but it is not really going to give you a hundred percent chance of winning entirely.

You can definitely figure out how many chances you have to succeed. But that does not help you winning in reality. Especially when it comes to gambling where it is extremely random and not something you can "count 1000 times" on. Again, depends on what type of game you are playing but that's the case with most games.

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