Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 32.

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Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on November 08, 2017, 03:21:05 PM

Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.

I think you guys are not understanding the idea here.. It's not about math magically telling you what will win or how you'll win. It's about using math to your advantage and getting an edge in certain games. Statistics and all of that is a sort of math that you will use. Nobody can argue that you always need a bit of luck to win but yeah. You can use maths to your advantage.

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Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on November 08, 2017, 03:21:05 PM

Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

I agree, math could only help you to win in gambling sometimes, but never always, luck is the most important thing that we should have in gambling, that way, we could assure ourselves that we could win and not worry about losing our money. But there are games in gambling which math plays a big role and I guess that could help you to win in gambling, however, avoid having too much confident on gambling.

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I used to be in trollbox every day and there are people that claimed to be using some Math formula to calculate the probability of the next round. The bet amount and the multiplier changes every single match depending on what happened in the past. It seems like it was working at that time. But last time I checked their profiles, they are all in negative profit. That proves that even some complicated Math formula fails in the long run in gambling. I mean what's the use of all those Math when the gambling site you are playing on has that sure loss (0.00x) chance and sometimes it happens a couple of times. Most gambling techniques are increasing the bet amount whenever they lose and being in a gambling site for so long, I noticed that there are times when there are reds (instaloss or sure loss) that comes consecutively. That means your bet amount increases and increases until the number of loss outnumbered the amount of bets your bankroll can recover from. And that's what finishes of most gambling betting strategies.

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Quote from: ChrisPop on November 08, 2017, 06:09:48 PM

Well... I believe that using math in your gambling strategy can give you a small edge,but after all it all resumes to LUCK. The most obvious example is the martingale strategy which fails every time unless you have a freakingly huge bankroll. Let's say you are playing dice and betting on >50.. What are the chances of losing 14-15 or even 26 in a row?! I can tell you it happened to me,but fortunately I was playing with test money.

So math can't really make you win. The casino's edge will always be bigger than yours, so try and reap your short term gambling profit and then STOP,take your won money home and my recommendation is ALWAYS play for FUN and not for profit!

Yep, we should always take that in mind that enjoying is much needed than wanting to earn more from it, but I still believe and let's not conclude the thread topics that there is a formula to solve the random result of dice or any in gambling, Even if it is just a slim percentage but who knows someday someone will formulate their own method without the casinos knowing it.

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Well... I believe that using math in your gambling strategy can give you a small edge,but after all it all resumes to LUCK. The most obvious example is the martingale strategy which fails every time unless you have a freakingly huge bankroll. Let's say you are playing dice and betting on >50.. What are the chances of losing 14-15 or even 26 in a row?! I can tell you it happened to me,but fortunately I was playing with test money.

So math can't really make you win. The casino's edge will always be bigger than yours, so try and reap your short term gambling profit and then STOP,take your won money home and my recommendation is ALWAYS play for FUN and not for profit!

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Math cannot really help you in gambling. The only science that can give a boost to your winning chances is statistics. If you take notes and have been doing this for years like me, I usually know which game has 80-90% chances to be a both teams to score game in soccer. This doesn't mean that you will win 100% but you will win more than you will lose.

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Quote from: bering on November 08, 2017, 02:08:13 PM

Quote from: alisafidel58 on November 01, 2017, 02:52:17 AM

If you are a mathematical genius and you know the algorithm of a certain game then your chances on winning is high.
Just like on some movies that i saw where a group of geniuses play poker and read the cards algorithm and eventually they won but been chased by the casino.
Math will help you win the game if you know how to calculate well on the game that you want to bet.

playing poker is unpredictable especially if you have unpredictable opponents too and if you're compare between the real life and in the movies i think you're clearly wrong that i have to say there is no such thing because calculate well will not guarantee you will win every single game you're played and the movies made only to attract people to watching them but the situations is different in the real life although there are some people who geniuses and good in math but i'm so doubt they will always win in gambling

I think he is talking about black jack, not poker(because math won't help you much in poker) and movie "21".
Probably he didn't watch end of movie. Counting cards is cheating, so math can't help you even in black jack if they catch you.

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Quote from: alisafidel58 on November 01, 2017, 02:52:17 AM

If you are a mathematical genius and you know the algorithm of a certain game then your chances on winning is high.
Just like on some movies that i saw where a group of geniuses play poker and read the cards algorithm and eventually they won but been chased by the casino.
Math will help you win the game if you know how to calculate well on the game that you want to bet.

playing poker is unpredictable especially if you have unpredictable opponents too and if you're compare between the real life and in the movies i think you're clearly wrong that i have to say there is no such thing because calculate well will not guarantee you will win every single game you're played and the movies made only to attract people to watching them but the situations is different in the real life although there are some people who geniuses and good in math but i'm so doubt they will always win in gambling

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Quote from: EdenHazard on November 02, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

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Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

guys please can you put an example on how math actually could work and help us to win? i want to learn it if then everything makes sense. don't just talking crap , give us a concrete example with a simple proof also how to verify it.

math are so voluminous , you can not just say like that without a clear elucidation.

You will not get proof if math can help you win a gamble because there is no such evidence. In gambling, that can help you win in gambling is luck, when you luck, you'll win even though you're stupid in math.

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 02, 2017, 05:19:13 PM

Quote from: EdenHazard on November 02, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

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Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

guys please can you put an example on how math actually could work and help us to win? i want to learn it if then everything makes sense. don't just talking crap , give us a concrete example with a simple proof also how to verify it.

math are so voluminous , you can not just say like that without a clear elucidation.

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. If probability is not math then I think math cannot help us win. Since the result of the roll of any dice depends on the chance or probability (randmoness). I believe the result of roll of everydice dependes on the calculation of the internal setup of the game. If a person is able to sync with that setup, then he will know the next result of the game.

or maybe all of this just BS? who knows? as i can not see any legitimate / reliable explanation about this one. the probability in math only predicting future and still with a possibility to have wrong prediction most of the times.

so it will remain random basically isn't it? so don't put too high expectation on this especially when you don't know anything.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on November 02, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

Quote from: bhadz on November 02, 2017, 04:37:20 AM

Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

guys please can you put an example on how math actually could work and help us to win? i want to learn it if then everything makes sense. don't just talking crap , give us a concrete example with a simple proof also how to verify it.

math are so voluminous , you can not just say like that without a clear elucidation.

No one can share it here

If you want to learn Im sure they will sell them

. If probability is not math then I think math cannot help us win. Since the result of the roll of any dice depends on the chance or probability (randmoness). I believe the result of roll of everydice dependes on the calculation of the internal setup of the game. If a person is able to sync with that setup, then he will know the next result of the game.

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Quote from: bhadz on November 02, 2017, 04:37:20 AM

Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

guys please can you put an example on how math actually could work and help us to win? i want to learn it if then everything makes sense. don't just talking crap , give us a concrete example with a simple proof also how to verify it.

math are so voluminous , you can not just say like that without a clear elucidation.

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Quote from: Gheka on November 02, 2017, 11:27:48 AM

Quote from: romero121 on November 02, 2017, 06:21:35 AM

Quote from: bhadz on November 02, 2017, 04:37:20 AM

Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

Math could help in making better strategies as well predict the right platform upon which the respective game is programmed. This lets the user increase his chance of winning, but this won't provide with an promised winning. Whatever might be, luck is the key factor. You know math or not, if you haveuck then winning is all yours.

Agree, math can help us have more chance of winning in gambling, the math here is probability and statistics, we will rely on historical data and analyze the factors that affect the results and then make the decisions that we think are the most accurate. In short, mathematics will influence a certain part, it can not help us complete victory, in gambling, luck is still essential to determine the winner, I do not like to use math in gambling because I just gamble for fun, calculating just makes me add headaches and can not relieve stress, and relax.

Once we're playing we can't guarantee that we can apply calculating while playing, But there are some people on casino especially banker are already memorize how to shuffle and distribute cards in their own advantage, maybe their tricks in foul motives,or they just used to it.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 02, 2017, 06:21:35 AM

Quote from: bhadz on November 02, 2017, 04:37:20 AM

Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

Math could help in making better strategies as well predict the right platform upon which the respective game is programmed. This lets the user increase his chance of winning, but this won't provide with an promised winning. Whatever might be, luck is the key factor. You know math or not, if you haveuck then winning is all yours.

Agree, math can help us have more chance of winning in gambling, the math here is probability and statistics, we will rely on historical data and analyze the factors that affect the results and then make the decisions that we think are the most accurate. In short, mathematics will influence a certain part, it can not help us complete victory, in gambling, luck is still essential to determine the winner, I do not like to use math in gambling because I just gamble for fun, calculating just makes me add headaches and can not relieve stress, and relax.

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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I don't believe in what is written in this article. For me, winning at roulette is just a great success. All these calculations are just nonsense.

People can do some calculations while playing gambling, for example in roulette game they can see how many rounds the ball will run usually and what is the previous number and they can calculate next what number will come. This is all just assumptions there is no guarantee that is why they will put multiple bets. This is what I know about this calculation in gambling others what they do I don't know.

Exactly just as you have said. Pure assumptions! You can never beat the house edge to it no matter how you count the number of rounds the ball will run in a roulette as anything can simply just change and then you still need your luck to answer your call.

What you call calculations like placing multiple bets and increasing every stake like martingale are just strategies and even those will not guarantee winning but can only help you minimize it as there could always be a chance of hitting your prediction right and winning at some point., then back to the beginning again.

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Math may increase the chances of winning gambling. However, it all comes back to ourselves. Because, the nature of gambler (mostly) is greedy. If got winning, then it stop is better than continuing which certainly ends up being a loser.

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Quote from: bhadz on November 02, 2017, 04:37:20 AM

Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

Math could help in making better strategies as well predict the right platform upon which the respective game is programmed. This lets the user increase his chance of winning, but this won't provide with an promised winning. Whatever might be, luck is the key factor. You know math or not, if you haveuck then winning is all yours.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Of course no, maths can't help you to win in gambling ,and in fact i know some people who used probability to win in gambling but always all of them they lose.

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Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I don't believe in what is written in this article. For me, winning at roulette is just a great success. All these calculations are just nonsense.

Yes. How can math help us in change our luck. Definitely, it won’t.
Google is full of such articles in which people share their winning tricks but honestly, it is a very basic common sense that no mathematical formula can give us a solution for naming the victory.

Roulette is a random game. There is no pattern in output and that is why we should not even think about ways out of it. The best is to enjoy the game without greed of winning money.

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