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October 04, 2017, 12:47:28 PM
Mathematics is all about logic and numbers while in gambling there is logic, numbers and luck. But solving some algorithms or scripts on a gambling site with the use of Mathematics, I don't think it's possible to help you win in any gambling game. Some statistics can help you to win through sports betting and in that way I guess it can help you but only that way otherwise, it can't.
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October 04, 2017, 12:39:56 PM
I definitely believe math can be used in some casino games as winning is built around probability but this is also a 50-50 chance which isn't foolproof either but its easier to use math on sports gambling were time and human fatigue can all be considered to make calculated predictions.
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October 04, 2017, 12:24:10 PM
The mathematics of gambling are a collection of probability applications encountered in games of chance and can be included in game theory. From a mathematical point of view, the games of chance are experiments generating various types of aleatory events, the probability of which can be calculated by using the properties of probability on a finite space of events. So it's totally can help you much in gambling.

Not that much if you think more of it. Gambling is a luck based game, still depends on what and how you are playing it. There are some informants that I know talked about this but moving certain school to other is really, I think is not a good thing.
I really agree with what you say. gambling is not calculated and predictable. fully gambling game is a thing that relies heavily on a fortune. if you have a desire then I think gambling is not the right one. there may be only a few predictable games like sport betting, but that could also end up beyond expectations. the conclusion that any type of gambling game is a thing that can not be calculated and analyzed with mathematics. gambling is a thing that hopes to a fortune and a fortune is a very uncertain thing.
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October 04, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
The mathematics of gambling are a collection of probability applications encountered in games of chance and can be included in game theory. From a mathematical point of view, the games of chance are experiments generating various types of aleatory events, the probability of which can be calculated by using the properties of probability on a finite space of events. So it's totally can help you much in gambling.

Not that much if you think more of it. Gambling is a luck based game, still depends on what and how you are playing it. There are some informants that I know talked about this but moving certain school to other is really, I think is not a good thing.
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October 04, 2017, 12:05:45 PM
From a mathematical point of view, the game of chance are experiments . It will calculated the exactly your percent of winning or losing for you, to make a clear choice to go or not. Specially with the casino gambling, Poker is a clearly example about calculated the chances of winning. So it's totally can help you much in gambling.
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October 04, 2017, 10:20:24 AM
I think that mathematic can't help you in winning in gambling. First game that comes to my mind is black jack, but its not about mathematic, its about your memory, you need to remember all cards that passed and by that you know what cards are left in deck and with that your chances to win are high. Beside black jack other games are combination of skill and luck, there you need to play with some strategies but sometimes they work sometimes not, there is no universal method for winning all the time in gambling.
I don't know what can mathematic do in gambling, and to do some mathematic you need time, maybe some program can help but I doubt in that.
Gamble for fun, discover your own strategy and have good time. Don't think that there is winning methods, you will constantly be disappointed in the end.
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October 04, 2017, 10:03:13 AM
Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

Haha, exactly. Use math as it was intended to be used. To prove theories and give you answers. The answer in this case is that no matter how long you play you'll always play at a disadvantage Smiley.
Hahahahahaha beautifully ended. Math have always been a tool for measuring and calculating loss and profits but yes for sure, in gambling it is really of no use. Nothing could make this game better than any worthless thing in this world.

Even mathematics failed at the end providing any solid, logical, numerical proof of this game being profitable.

You are right concerning lucky based games, but there's at least one game which is not 100% lucky based, and the name of this game is poker. I've seen many times that in poker tournaments with hundreds of participants more than 50% of the players who are in top 20 are always the same people. If it were 100% based on luck we would see always different players in top 20. One have to apply their knowledge of probability to play poker on a good level. Of course it doesn't work in all cases but it works in most of them, and that's why good poker players win more frequently than average ones.
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October 04, 2017, 06:42:50 AM
Maths will definitively help you to prove that there are no profitable method for the player in simple gambling games based on luck/randomness (dice, roulette...)

Haha, exactly. Use math as it was intended to be used. To prove theories and give you answers. The answer in this case is that no matter how long you play you'll always play at a disadvantage Smiley.
Hahahahahaha beautifully ended. Math have always been a tool for measuring and calculating loss and profits but yes for sure, in gambling it is really of no use. Nothing could make this game better than any worthless thing in this world.

Even mathematics failed at the end providing any solid, logical, numerical proof of this game being profitable.
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October 04, 2017, 03:02:27 AM
Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.

i don't think so because even if we are good in math, we still difficult to win in gambling games because the games is design with more difficulties  and not just simple calculation and its to make gamblers lose. i think with so many gamblers in the world, i am sure that they can calculate with good in math but i am not sure that they can even win the games with easy. but maybe there any gamblers around us that could do math with good and he can win with easy too because of his math strategy and his luck.
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October 04, 2017, 02:54:03 AM
Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.

I do not really agree, but maybe math is helping gamblers gamble but I'm sure not much, because the thing that helps gambling is luck. Logically, if you're good in math you do not guarantee you will win in gambling, but if you get luck even though you're bad in math you'll win. So still luck is more important than math.
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October 04, 2017, 12:57:03 AM
Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
I don’t agree with this that being good at math will help you to win while gambling .this is a fact that anyone who is good at math can grab the techniques of various games quite faster than the one who is having problems in calculations.

But the end of the line is that gambling is basically dependent upon the luck of the player. If you are a newbie in this field even then it is possible to win an ample amount of capital by being luckier than the opponent.
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October 03, 2017, 10:17:47 PM
There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble  
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.
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October 03, 2017, 10:00:40 PM
I don't think that maths would be of much help in helping you win in gambling, but it can give you slight advantage in the game that you are playing. Like in the game of 21 or blackjack it is possible to predict upto an extent that when to gamble big and when to bet small simply by counting cards right from the start of the deck, so this can help you in getting an advantage which others don't have.
I haven't heard Math could really help in winning in gambling. Actually it's a pure of luck and strategy in winning the game. Because weather we involved Math it really depends whats your move in the game.

Depends on the game though. Math can help you when you are playing games like poker and sports books. There math would be useful because it can influence the chances of you winning in those games if you try and analyze the game using math. It can help but I think it really depends on the game you are playing with. That's just how gambling is for us.
I agree with that, math had no help in gambling. Because gambling like sports betting and cards game was needed of luck, moreover in dice roll, math had no used in this gambling because we can't count the roll it is not simply addition and subtraction. It's better to use hunch than math. Your hunch as a player is too much trusted than computation of math. Maybe you can used math in gambling in counting of wins and subtraction of losses.
I actually do not think so that being good at math could really help you with gambling. It is something that is totally dependent upon the luck of the player and has nothing to do with the kills at all.

If you re lucky enough to win the bet, then there is no difference of you being good or weak at mathematics. We could only consider it as a myth.

What myth here is luck.  Reason is that you cannot tell how luck exist, how it originate and where it came from Smiley  Just a state of mind to tell something unexplainable.  Math oppose this.  If your math is in sync with the internal setup's randomness, you will always win.  Reminds me of some Video Carrera in a mall.  Some person cracked it pattern and always win eversince.  That is not luck, it is math.  Soon after, that game was thrown out of that mall and probably changed its internal setup so that new pattern will be implemented.
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October 03, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
I don't think that math actually works on gambling (roullete). I presume that it is more on statistics and anlalysis. Mathematics is about addition subtratraction etc. But what gambling needs is statistics.. The probability to win on  what you bet in each game..i guess you can also learn it on experience. Even  anlysis of each game is based on how the game has been rolling over time.
math can not make us win the gambling game. gambling is a game that only relies on luck. if we want to win the gambling game then we must pray and hope. this is why gambling is called an uncertain game. and many people say that gambling is a game that has a very high risk.
Math can in fact help you win a gambling game in a game like poker you can use math to improve your game and know when it is the right play to call a bet and when it is the time to fold, it is not easy but professional gamblers do this everyday to earn great profits in the game.
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October 03, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
Math is useful in some gambling activities such as dice and roulette. In this kind of activity, you can get the probability of winning. Math analysis can be a help specially when looking for the probable winning choice, math knowledge is more like related with logical analysis which is a good factor on winning. But there are also gambling activities that do not demand Mathematics, like sport betting which math is not necessary because your bet will depend on the previous  game winning history. Still, gambling is a matter luck there is no definite prediction even with the use of math.
as far as I can judge about professional gambling, then the knowledge of mathematics is not only welcomed but must also be mandatory. Just otherwise, no victories for Roma and hand can not be seen if his knowledge in this science is very weak.

I don't think so whole knowledge in math can be totally applied with this kind of gambling scenario and I really agree that it's mandatory. You needed to be knowledgeable in order to become more equipped of skills towards the game, but it's not an assurance of winning all the time. Math is useful if you exactly balancing you gambling investments and counting your funds, but not a key of chances of lucky prize to win for.
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October 03, 2017, 11:41:43 AM
All the maths in the world couldn't help the call in last night's NFL game!

Hahah. I was waiting for this one. Yeah I lost a hefty amount on NFL last night with a bunch of parlays going on with one or two "safe" picks that completely rekt me! Crikey.. So I'll have to agree with you on that one, there's no amount of math that could have seen it coming Cheesy
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October 03, 2017, 10:39:36 AM
All the maths in the world couldn't help the call in last night's NFL game!
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October 03, 2017, 09:05:04 AM
Well, Probably math is one of the best way in order to win in a certain game because it is part of the game where in you have to solve for a certain amount of money although we know that money is involve so you have to compute on it. In some case you have to practice mathematics because it must something to do in coming from the big or somehow related to gambling..Thank's
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October 03, 2017, 08:54:16 AM
Math is the source of random algo used to get the result on a probability game like dice. Therefore​ it can be beat by means of Math too. This is still impossible for now but in the future it can be crack by some genius gamblers that want to win. There are some experements ongoing on how to gain on probabilty base game.

That's some very interesting research. Do you have any links to information on it?

I forgot the site. But you can manually search on google. I just saw it on a chatbox of some dice site. The guy is a high roller and experimenting for different combination to crack algo. I know that this sounds insane but I believe that it can be successful someday.
I do see those kind of person too on which they do made such calculations which they do really make it use to take advantage on the game but well i didnt really tend to believe if it does work or not because the thing on my mind is only that gambling houses cant really be cheated.I do believe that they are the ones who can possibly cheat its players but players cheating houses is really a rare case.

What I mean is not cheating but people who cracks a method to counter the result of the algo. Cheating is seeking the result of roll before you roll. I believe that there is a formula to solve the random result of algo. Even if it is just a slim percentage. Hehehe. Do you try experimenting too some methods?
If you have ever done programming or just seen some little easy code which generates number randomly, you will never ever able to figure out the algorithm by just watching some results. For instance, hashes are also algos but having 1000 of words and their hashes won't tell you the actual working. It is not very easy to find a pattern in something random, at least not for me.
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October 03, 2017, 08:26:19 AM
Maths could help you win at gambling to a certain degree. Statistics also come into place too. There is no magic formula to win at gambling unless you are the house in most cases the odds of winning are almost always in the houses favour and if you do get lucky it's there job to keep you planning until you put more back to them.
Maths, Physics, Computer, Calculus etc nothing can help us to win in gambling because no subject tells us how to control our fate. We can just calculate our loss to keep ourselves saves.

Other than that, math does not offers tricks to bring the number that we want in dice or make the third slot get the same object that previous two ones have. It is a random game and mostly we lose because house has edge.
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