Topic: Can we trust 3rd party Slot providers? (Read 709 times)

Why would the casino owner interfere here? As far as we know the slot providers control everything here and the casino operates only as a platform. Relying everything on the casino owner will not be convenient for the gambler, because we don't know how honest the casino owner is, so the main concern is whether he will allow the gambler to withdraw if he wins big.

What has the owner of the Casino got to do with the slot providers.?
Casinos are basically like a platform or medium through which we have access to those slot games, it is like a crypto exchange that list different type of coins for us to have access to buy and sell them, the owners of a particular coin can carry out a rug pull, it has nothing to do with the owner(s) of the exchange..

So also does casinos list slot games for we, the gamblers to play, if anything is wrong with the game, it is basically up to the game provider to fix and report to the casino, the casino on its own have little to nothing to do other than informing the game providers of the challenges gambler are having playing their game.

Yes, you can. It all depends on the owner of the casino. If he does honest work, then the winnings will be big, even more than in licensed slots.

Not just to follow but we must also sign up and play their games and other features to have a better conclusion if the gambling site is really trusted or not. This is the one that we must do, not that we will entirely depend on the gambling review site because many of them are not telling the truth. They can say that the site is scam but the truth is it was legit and they can say that the site is legit but the truth is it wasn't.

Fair gambling site gets a nice a traffic so they will also do their best to improve their site including their security. This is the most important here because once the site got hacked, the customer will panic and will hardly trust the casino anymore.

I think that it's gonna be all about searching if you ever know what's the 3rd provider of that casino that you're playing.

But it all still comes from the casino's reputation where you're gambling with and that's gonna set the slot more fun because you know if you're on the good hands or not.

That's why there are gamblers that wouldn't care about such as long as they're on the reputable casino playing slots.

do you know that some people don't verify or don't make a much research before any other thing in gambling and this is the one of the major things that contribute a lot for people been backslide or been losing in some of the gambling sites,

Anything can go wrong with third party slot providers because they might not be fully registered giving services that might have some bugs in them which might make more gamblers to make loses as they keep playing on the side. This is why of the reasons why we have to be careful and know what we are doing so that we are not going to lose money unnecessary.

      -  But you know mate, I also just noticed that most gamblers here in cryptocurrency play mostly slot games. Because I always only go to slot games to buy games.

And also for me because there are many good games here in the slot and I have no idea or think if it is third party or not as long as I enjoy it and maybe I will get lucky. And most of all with the third party because I often win gambling.

and besides , how can we refrain from Using a casino that has 3rd party provider in slot when there are many of them that has this now and yes they are functional and only few are in bad shape.

        - The casino(specially legit casinos) will only deal to those providers that
                                they believe will impact to their
                                 operation and not to be questionable.

       -While there are some casino that starts being in doubt now
                because of their providers , but only deal  with those
                               legit and you'll be fine .

This thread has become a bit of a spam fest, with signature quota posts, those randomly written ones, being thrown left and right.

I just want to clear up some things around the industry and how the regulations work.

#1. A licensed operator (online casino) is made out of several puzzle pieces, one of them are games that are served by the game provider. Operators mostly don't have their own games, it's to complicated to manage, you rather get a gaming provider that is experienced.
#2. The better the license, the more game providers the casino can have. An MGA licensed casino like Betsafe will have 5000+ games available, while a Curacao licensed casino like Coinslotty will only have couple thousand.
#3. Reputable gaming providers can be trusted, I'm talking here about publicly trading companies, Evolution, Tiger, the recently acquired NetEnt, as well as those that are still privately owned, but regulated. It's in no ones interest, business wise, to have a broken slot provider or one that scams players.
#4. Regulators and bodies that test slot machines within the industry, besides the Technical Services Bureau, are the following:
- https://ecogra.org
- https://gaminglabs.com/
- https://itechlabs.com/

And to close up, slot machines aren't here to give each of the players an additional $100 and a kiss on the forehead, they are entertainment games of chance, you're paying for the experience and the probability of winning big, but you shouldn't gamble what you can't afford to lose.
 

3rd party slot providers can be trusted if they are reputable but when we evaluate the best online casinos, we follow an internal site so that we maintain a good level of quality in our work and we believe that the casinos will be good. Even if the casino itself is fair they should take steps to increase security such as having site encryption that makes it difficult for third parties to access protected personal data and information. Slot providers must become trustworthy.

You are actually having some point there because it was seldom for someone who would the casino if they are using 3rd party slots provider, not in the case that they will bother doing it especially, if they don't see any major irregularities in the casino. Whether they are using it or not, it won't change the sentiment and our chances of winnings. But of course, it was also our right to know but I would say that it doesn't matter as long as we are using reputable sites for we are trusting them.

     -  Speaking of Reputation, how do we know mate if a 3rd party provider has a good reputation? This is for the information of other gamblers who play immediately on a casino platform here in crypto.

Because even I don't know how to find out, because all I know is the casino itself that includes the 3rd party provider. Because the gambler will not think about whether the game they choose is 3rd party or not in a casino.

Casinos, be it stake or any other casino, reputed or not, do not audit games from game providers. There are other recognized organisations which are supposed to do this task.
Auditing slot games is supposed to be conducted by independent third party organizations which have nothing to do with the casino or the game provider.

I think that is not the case, when someone say irregularities, it means it does not meet the standard.  It is possible that the slots is giving player way more winnings that brings losses to the platform or it is possible that the slots may give the platform trouble because it does not follow its given terms of performance.


True that but the trust does not put on the slot provider but rather on the platform where the provider is integrated.  A player never thinks of they play the slots because they trust the provider but rather they play on the platform whatever the game it offers because they trust the platform and not the game provider.

"Some irregularities", is he trying to say those particular games are not regularly played by gamblers as against what they initially expected before enrolling those games into their casino log.

Am no fan of slots games and there's nothing in gambling I love more than putting my penny on sport betting like football or basketball as their outcome hardly get tampered with and a lot of influence on its results seldom come to play unlike slot games in casinos.  The truth is, if you are having doubt on the trust system of a particular game you can always avoid it, and get on with slot providers you're cool with. Problem solved.

Other neglect to check the third party providers reputation since they are confident that such crazy things will not happen since they are playing on a reputable casino. Although this is valid thoughts but still we need to consider the third party provider reputation so that we can rely on that we are in better platform and they will not scam us if we decide to try out their games offered to us.

Agreed, actually gamblers don't even realize if the third party covers the slot games we can choose because we only choose the ones we think we can get lucky or have fun with the game.
Especially if most gamblers have experienced with a third-party provider that they have won several times in those games, because for sure gamblers will come back to it again and again, I said this because I have experienced it.

If a reputable casino will audit every game from third party provider, Stake will not add these third party provider in the first place lol.

AFAIK Stake have added Yggdrasil and iSoftbet since the few years ago, but they realized something is wrong with these providers in this year. This mean if you're use Stake and you gamble on Yggdrasil's game, you're already get scammed since the games are rigged. This mean you need to check the provider reputation, not only relying to the casino reputation.

I’m pretty sure before these providers are chosen by the platform, they are being audited first for what they offer and checked for any possible irregularities they may have on their system. Third-party auditors of these game providers also exist, so there’s that. As for us users, we can’t really know if the casino or the gaming providers are being straight with us; heck, we can’t even trust the casino’s own game if we start to doubt their third-party game providers too. It is a system built in trust, and something that is hard to completely ignore when questionable stuff starts happening here and there.