Topic: Can we trust 3rd party Slot providers? - page 5. (Read 707 times)

  Casino games third-party auditors can't always be trusted because they are humans too, they can take money as a bribe and overlook something they shouldn't have allowed, it happens, I don't even care much because after making sure that a online casino has a high reputation I am after how lucky I will get on the platform after playing some slots if I don't see any good encouraging results I will find another reputable online casino, so for me it depends on how lucky I get with a online casino either big or small

Yes those auditors are reliable, I recommend going deep into the information about who is responsible for the casino games audit, make sure it's a good company, although it might not be necessary for many but it's good for those who want to make sure that the games those online gaming platforms provide for gamblers are proven to be legit and fair enough, sometimes we can't even explain how we keep losing games when gambling online and this might be something to look out for.

There might be more to the reasons why online casinos are removing many slot games but I am guessing maybe those games that are removed are those that are benefiting gamblers more than the house, think about it, if those games are fetching the house more money they will never remove them.

I believe that casino owners are more greedy than we think, they want 90 percent winnings on the house and 20 percent winnings for the gamblers, this is the truth.

I have been working with various slot providers over the past few years and I think that they are the only ones that you can actually trust. All the reputable providers are real companies with public data behind them, with most of them being on the stock market as well (just check Evolution, the owners of NetEnt and others: https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/EVO:SS ) Personally I would stay away from unlicensed casinos that offer their own games outside of the regular landscape, no one regulates them, you have no clue if they are fair or not or what their plan is.

Regarding the drop of certain slot providers from casinos, there are several reasons that might happen, but in most high-profile cases it's the provider who initiates the drop (e.g. the casino didn't meet the traffic requirement, doesn't feature a certain license, lost a certain payment provider or just did something scammy or operated on a market they shouldn't be operating).

I think this can be checked by ourselves when we play a certain game or some certain slots from a provider we can see the patterns and compare them to very well known providers.For me a very well known if not the most well known of all is Pragmatic Play and you will find very few persons who play slots to talk badly about them,they are also one of the providers which give more often than any other provider the max win in quite a few of their slots with Gate of Olympus being the one giving that x5000 max win more often than any other slot.Based on this I don't know about Yggdrasil as I never played any slots from them but I know and trust Pragmatic Play so in the end it is a personal choice whom we trust or not.

There are a lot of third-party providers right there instead of getting their own casino its ideal to make a partnered with different gambling this makes their outsource more growth because they have already a games and one of the casinos need is their services, these thing is all about the provider and the casinos contract if there's something didn't commit on it between those two its on their contract you don't need get to know that's how they earn. I keep trusting those because at the end its on the responsibility of the gambling casino because they issue a third party that's why most of the time you visit with the concern its direct with the casino and not into the providers.

When I play slot gambling I trust the site that I use, so whether I use a 3rd party slot provider or not, as long as playing doesn't occur problems and can still be relied on then trust will appear by itself.

If a casino has a good and trusted reputation, they will definitely also use a trusted and tested 3rd party provider, because this affects the reputation of the casino itself, making it impossible for them to use a provider that is not good.

I mean, we(or you) might just be overreacting about stuff like this. it isn't that odd for businesses to suddenly cut the services they bought from other companies due to reasons like cheating or illegal/wrong RTP and stuff like that. It might just be because they're preparing their own set that would conflict with said games or the games simply performed underwhelmingly compared to the money they prepared.

Now I may be looking at this a bit too optimistically, but in the end, we can't really know since we know nothing. Honestly speaking most cases of us choosing a games is just us trusting the provider, so it's really up to our own judgement.

As you've said, it's up to the gamblers to trust them at their own risk. If it doesn't fit the criteria then we can always avoid them similar to how other gamblers would stick to playing on low-edge casino games.

Maybe it's because they thought having more games would give more success to their casino and it's one more reason to play in their casino knowing they have all the games and more when compared to their competitors.

I found one on Reddit discussing about this irregularity that happened to him. But the date is way back in 2022.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stake/comments/wnpk6g/yggdrasil_fraud/

I believe Stake.com tested this first. If not, there may be a lot of complaints that were submitted to them so they just have to remove it before it affects more slot players.
Can we trust them? This should be initially the job of those gambling sites that will absorb their games. Test it first before they put it in the market/services. They should not allow any third-party applications that are prone to incidents like what happened in the example above. Now, if we see some faults, we could always contact support and I hope they will clear their name by paying the appropriate amount as long as there are proof that the player won the game.
As gamblers, I don't think we are capable of detecting who does the audits but we put our trust in reputable casino sites to do their job and keep their clean reputation in the process.

That's the beauty of stakes.com I can say that they are transparent and they value their gamblers on their gambling platform. So it's no wonder that they've been here for a few years and it's still operating and has a large community.

        So if a casino has any providers on their platform they should be making sure it doesn't cause any problems in the future to their players who will be the ones to blame in the end. So it's only right to remove if there are irregularities being done that will affect their casino platform.

If verifying fairness is your main issue then how can you verify games brick and mortar games as probably fair if you can’t determine what’s inside the slot machine? Do you have any method that will support your suggestion or you will use the casino license to operate which is same case with online casino.

I wonder what will be the benefits of a reputable online casino operating for more than 5 years without a confirmed bad issue on rigging their games while they can always win due to the house edge?

The question is you already answer it yourself. But, I don't why the casino still use it today if don't have regulations. That possible is profit, Maybe the casino will get more profit if uses irregulation provider, and the user doesn't have to complain about it also, so they match each other. About trust, when we talk about that, of course, will get many answers pro and contra. it becomes each other's perspective, Long time ago, I used to enjoy playing games without any license or regulation, it's fine for me. In this case, if you enjoy it and don't have a problem with that, then you was fine.

No, you can't trust a business model that is exploitative for profit by nature under any circumstance. This does not just apply for slot providers, it goes for the casinos themselves as well. You don't know if the casion is truly fair, even if they allow you to verify rolls with their own provably fair system. Ones without it, even more so should not be trusted. Topics have been posted about rigged live casino games, they can't be trusted either. Even if the site you are playing on is seemingly fair, you are at risk of their imposition of the terms of service to screw you anyway.

In the world of gambling, trust should not exist. If you want to genuinely gamble for entertainment, go to a brick and mortar casino. Or, use decentralized games built on smart contracts and web3. They are your best chance of having a fair chance at winning.

My thoughts though as there could be only a few reasons that account to unspecified irregularities which is by far a decorative statement of what could have really gone wrong. That doesn't mean you can't trust them but, should you find something untrustworthy about a casino, you could check out other sites and we've got a host of them running signatures on the forum.

Trust is one reason why we play and as such, its important that you trust your to get fair play, your wins would be paid and your detail protected for those that have them KYC submitted. Let's be safe about our gambling and what casino we choose to bet with.

Unfortunately, slot guns have no other option but  to trust the game provider. The good thing is that most of those game providers are being audited by well known, trusted and, most importantly, independent auditors. However, this remains a formality and doesn't guarantee the provider will remain fair.
What we can do as gamblers is to play only games from reputable providers on reputable casinos. In this case even if the game provider goes rogue the casino will delist it if they notice any irregularities as what happened with Stake and YGGDRASIL.

Whether I trust 3rd party slots providers or not is out of the question.  I trust the platform where I am playing so I don't think about the 3rd party slot providers.  As far as I am concerned, I never asked about the reputation of the 3rd party providers since it is given that when a gambler trusts a gambling platform, it trusts everything in it.  Besides, reputable casinos make sure that the third-party slots providers they implement are fully audited and are clear of any problem that they may bring to the players.

I guess we can't really know if we trust these 3rd party slot providers, I mean I have a feeling that the majority of gamblers that play slots trust the slot provider because the gambling site he/she trust uses it.

to be honest this would be the best thing that would happen in this thread, someone with an insight on the subject.

I would say that it depends on each one of us, if we trust the providers or instead going fully completely provably fair games. In my case I feel more than satisfied to play on Stake's original games, their dices, plinko and crash,so I mostly stay first party.

There was one occasion I also spent some afternoons on Freebitcoin, where they also have provably fair Hi-lo as far as I can recall.

If someone loves an specific game/slot which is third party, it is up to them whether to trust or not. Let the company reputation to speak for themselves.

this issue of the license of curacao is somewhat comical, let's see that in a scenario where the casino is a scam, even when many people report cases of scam to the license provider which in this case is curacao, I have never seen any intervention by curacao in the sense of punishing the casino, so we all ask ourselves: did curacao ever carry out an inspection in any casino? has anyone here heard that curacao inspected a casino and found irregularities? I never heard. so why do casinos ask for KYC if curacao never even inspects the casino to see if the casino complies with the rules?

there is no way for ordinary people to know if all games are demonstrably fair, that's why I prefer sports betting, it saves me a lot of headache, for me to win I depend on myself when I make a bet, whereas in games where they depend on of luck, in addition to luck, the person must also pray that the game is demonstrably fair. as in games that depend on luck, even if they were not rigged, the person at the end of the day will still lose everything, so it doesn't matter if the game was rigged or not, most people have already put it in their heads that gambling is not they are to make money and they are right. even if the game is the fairest, what will change is just that people won't lose as fast, but at the end of the day they will lose everything anyway