Topic: Can you think second if crypto without internets? Impossible right. - page 2. (Read 534 times)

Even though it is identical to the virtual world network, it turns out that Bitcoin can be used without the internet which has been proven to be done by Africans. However, Bitcoin peer-to-peer (P2P) transactions can be carried out without an internet connection in Africa, using a solution called “Machankura.”

According to media quotes, South African software developer Kgothatso Ngako, has created a tool called Machankura in 2022. Machankura was created to make it easier for Africans to access Bitcoin despite the lack of equity and strength of the internet network there. The device uses the phone's Subscriber Identity Module telecommunications network to access the Lightning Network via USSD, which is similar to Interactive Voice Response (IVR). We usually encounter IVR programs when contacting service provider services, by selecting a number (for example, there is a voice prompt "press 1" for customer assistance and so on) to select the desired service.
The difference is, USSD is not present in the form of sound like IVR, but in the form of writing or text.

It is known that Machankura has been used by more than 2,900 citizens in more than seven countries in Africa, such as Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana, Uganda, Malawi, Namibia and others.
Even though the internet is not very reliable in Africa, this actually brings a new idea to present Bitcoin transactions offline.

Source: Blockchainmedia

The question will be also like this, can a certain industry that is connected tot he world globally exist without the internet? The answer may be yes they can still exist offline only. But there will be so many problems because it is only, there will be many limitations. Probably there will not be any volume in the market, because the crypto market always needs an internet connection to operate, store assets, sell and buy, and do all transactions from crypto to your banks. This will need exact internet. If there is no internet, how can it operate? Because Bitcoin and other cryptos do not have a tangible form that can be held such as money or other necessities.

And what problem will it solve?I don’t see any point in this.Even if there is no Internet then cryptocurrency will not help there.You need to solve the basic things first and then think about technologies and their applications.Investments are very individual and it would be a great advantage if they have access to them at any time of the day and without the Internet this would not be possible.

I think crypto can't run without the internet, because as we know crypto is a developed technology so innovation is needed in every achievement,
to learn I don't think you really need the internet especially now that there are many books that explain what crypto is and what benefits can be taken if we know crypto

Without the internet, we can't know what's happening in other countries, new trends, or anything that can make us more excited to participate. And we are really lucky because before getting acquainted with crypto, we already had the internet, which provides many opportunities for us in any way.

And the presence of crypto provides greater hope because we can try to make money through crypto. And many people have proven it so this makes many people more interested in becoming part of investors in crypto.

Just as bitcoin adoption continues in rural areas and technological developments will continue to comb rural areas for the wider internet. In the end, everyone will be connected to the internet, including in rural areas which are currently not connected. Technology will not limit internet travel, but will continue to find places that are increasingly widespread in all corners.

In the worst case we can consider offline transactions, but not really sure of the exact formula to describe it, other than that technology is impossible to go backwards and will definitely continue to evolve.

Cryptocurrency is completely internet based.  Hence it is never possible to complete a Bitcoin transaction without a successful internet connection. It works in the form of block transactions in a peer-to-peer network, many number of blocks must be passed before a Bitcoin transaction is complete. So without internet it will not be possible to success a transaction in any way. So Bitcoin cannot be imagined without internet. I don't think it can ever happen now or in the future.  But it may be that all smartphones can run on only one connection worldwide by connecting directly through satellite without being covered by any SIM card or broadband.  In this case no country specific SIM card is required and a mobile phone will always have a high speed net connection. but Bitcoin transaction in offline is totally impossible

Sharing money with the poor is charity and I call it charity work, but for now with economic conditions that some people are still not in the prosperous category, it seems very difficult to do this even if you say the cryptocurrency market brings justice and equality. But for now only people who are used to being in the market can feel this, while those who are still poor seem to find it difficult to feel justice and equality.

There's alot of project that are working in bridge the gap and creating something that will make the use of Bitcoin easy for people in the rural area and from what i once read the blockchain company called Meshnets has already done something like that allow the faciliating of Bitcoin payment using SMS bridge or meshnets but i dont know how secure is the transaction and the project latest update.

If I may ask, what exact forum are you looking for when we already have the likes of "bitcointalk.org", the official forum of Bitcoin, able to accommodate any capacity? Because no doubt in the future the price will be extreme, and as such create an avenue for more people to be more involved. And crypto class is not new, as it can be organized both online and offline by anyone who wishes to spread the knowledge of crypto/Bitcoin to newbies in their various localities.

There is some concept created years ago that allows the sending of Bitcoin offline and there's also an altcoin created that allow spending of cryptocurrency through text message but the concept never pushed through maybe lack of fund or the crypto community being more into the online aspect than offline because most users never join the conversation.

Imagine life without the internet; everything would fall dormant; it would certainly transport us back to the Paleolithic era, when there was no internet. Our daily online transactions depend on the internet, which also helps information move more quickly. Crypto cannot be accessed if the internet is not functioning. Bitcoin is a legitimate project with a promising future for investors and traders. We consequently completely depend on the internet to carry out our daily tasks, which therefore contributes significantly to cryptocurrency.

It's not entirely impossible to use Bitcoin without the Internet in principle, but I think it should be relevant if something major happens to global communications, energy security, Internet connection or something like that, not when there are simply areas with low Internet penetration. I believe that access to the Internet is very important, so bypassing it and working on access to Bitcoin but not the Internet just feels limiting to me, doesn't make sense. The Internet opens up so many possibilities, and Bitcoin is just one aspect of a larger thing.

Instead of complicating this problem and turning it into an idea, share your money with the poor. And not only money but also the story of sharing knowledge to all, but the new thing that appears has its barriers and limitations so that everyone can easily access it. However, the cryptocurrency market brings fairness and equality to us so it seems to me that some poor countries will need economic support as well as knowledge so that they do not lag behind change of society.

In the future, cash will probably be replaced by digital currency like CBDC, but I agree with you that it will not happen anytime soon. It is not war or inflation that hinders it, but it can be said that the world is developing, but there are still many places that still do not have internet or smartphones. Another thing is that the world population of older people in previous generations is still large, and they have difficulty accessing technology, so getting rid of cash will be a big problem for them.

As our lives increasingly depend on the internet and technology, it makes no sense to try to find a way to generate cryptocurrency without the internet.

Cryptocurrency should be an alternative to the current cash and non-cash payments precisely because it cannot function without an Internet connection. Many on this forum predict the spread of cryptocurrencies in the near future, even in remote rural areas of developing countries. I do not think that this will happen in the near future. We are now experiencing an exacerbation of the period of wars and various cataclysms due to a sharp climate change on our planet. Because of this, there will be problems with both products and material resources. Therefore, poverty, hunger and everything that accompanies them will continue. At the same time, the well-being of people as a whole on the planet will not only not increase, but may also fall significantly.

There are many ways of using Bitcoins without the internet.
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As far as I understand what OP is conveying, I think he is referring to an offline class where individual from rural areas where there is no internet  can learn things about Bitcoin.  I do think that it is possible since there are offline source of information like pamphlets, books and even newspapers featuring Bitcoin.  It just need a person who will volunteer to do researches.

But if we are talking about transaction, it always needs internet to be confirmed.  Transaction might be possible for offline but confirmation will always need an internet.

Asking if it is possible for cryptocurrency to exist without the internet is like saying if it is possible for a house to stand without a foundation. In how things are, one thing will not be able to exist properly without the other, that is cryptocurrency will not be able to do well and have a proper image without the internet, and the internet would never have been complete with a form of digital currency that is controlled by a system out of the control of the government. Cryptocurrency will not be cryptocurrency without the internet.

You need to synchronize with other full nodes, and this will happen via the Internet, whether you connected directly to the Internet, or through a third party connected to the Internet, whether that party receives instructions from you via SMS, radio waves, satellite Internet, or other methods.

Its correct you can broadcast that TX but you need to trust other party.