Canelo Alvarez - Jaime Munguia May 4 Super Middleweight Championship

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Quote from: Viscore on May 06, 2024, 10:16:14 AM

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I honestly like Jaime Munguia in this game, although he know how good Canelo is, he respected it but he went to fight and try to beat Canelo. He is a definition of a warrior, not afraid to loss and not a afraid to fight a well known boxer.

It was a great battle but it was evident that Canelo has better skills than Jaime Munguia.

If we look at his record https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/659924, he had 43 wins and 34 of that are from KO, so that's how good he is, but you know, Canelo is a different breed, he is a champion and a very popular boxer for a reason. it's safe to say that although Munguia have tried, but he is still not yet on the level of Canelo. And for Canelo, I have a message for him, "please fight someone that is on your level"... Grin

Unfortunately, there is news that his next opponent is Berlanga, not yet verified and I don't think Berlanga can offer a challenge against Canelo he is just a regular undefeated fighters he has a good record fighting nameless and low-level fighters to improve his records, if you match him to Benavidez or Munguia Berlanga will not last the whole 12 rounds.

I hope there's a change of mind from Canelo and they agree to match him to a fighter who deserves to share the ring with him and that's David Benavidez, Canelo should fight him don't wait for Father Time to catch him before fighting him or he will be in a disadvantage.

Locking this thread now and we'll wait for his next fight this year.

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Quote from: mirakal on May 06, 2024, 09:38:49 AM

I honestly like Jaime Munguia in this game, although he know how good Canelo is, he respected it but he went to fight and try to beat Canelo. He is a definition of a warrior, not afraid to loss and not a afraid to fight a well known boxer.

It was a great battle but it was evident that Canelo has better skills than Jaime Munguia.

If we look at his record https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/659924, he had 43 wins and 34 of that are from KO, so that's how good he is, but you know, Canelo is a different breed, he is a champion and a very popular boxer for a reason. it's safe to say that although Munguia have tried, but he is still not yet on the level of Canelo. And for Canelo, I have a message for him, "please fight someone that is on your level"... Grin

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Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

As we expected, his champion's experience and skills are not getting rusted that quickly and he just gives Munguia a wake-up of reality when he hits him with those huge power punch combinations. Well, as we all know, champions don't give up easily and he was really lucky he got that experience from a veteran and gave the best of him to make him feel the difference in their level. I think Munguia will quickly recover after that lost and will make it his best motivation to bounce back once again but before that, he needs to get up slowly with tune-up fights before going into the championship fight once again.

I am not surprise with the outcome, although Munguia was able to survive in the whole 12 rounds but you can see that he was fairly dominated by Canelo. The boxer was undefeated before he fought Canelo, so we can say that he is a quality boxer, and canelo just dispatch him like that. I guess Canelo really love to fight an undefeated challenger, because there's a lot of boxers in his list that he beat before which was undefeated when they faced him and Canelo just schooled them easily.

I honestly like Jaime Munguia in this game, although he know how good Canelo is, he respected it but he went to fight and try to beat Canelo. He is a definition of a warrior, not afraid to loss and not a afraid to fight a well known boxer.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 05, 2024, 04:37:27 AM

Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

As we expected, his champion's experience and skills are not getting rusted that quickly and he just gives Munguia a wake-up of reality when he hits him with those huge power punch combinations. Well, as we all know, champions don't give up easily and he was really lucky he got that experience from a veteran and gave the best of him to make him feel the difference in their level. I think Munguia will quickly recover after that lost and will make it his best motivation to bounce back once again but before that, he needs to get up slowly with tune-up fights before going into the championship fight once again.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 05, 2024, 05:29:07 PM

Canelo continues to be unchallenged because he is picking challengers that he can easily beat what happened here could happen again with Berlanga, he is taking good care of his legacy by not fighting worthy challengers like Benavidez and he may regret these years after he retires because when all talks about Canelo legacy the name Benavidez will always come out as one fighter he keeps ducking.
If he wants to keep fighting for the next years he should fight him now not later when his body cannot keep anymore.

They are smarter now, they are choosing their battle and making sure they keep winning so they can retain their value. Canelo is not as a warrior like other fighter who are willing to take risk as he probably himself thought he is also a businessman, so as long as people are watching, he is making money every fight, that's fine with him until he retires.

IMO, Canelo is just waiting for the right time, so let's be positive that one day we will see him squaring up against a fighter that could potentially beat him and we are gonna see a 50-50 betting odds in the bookies.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 05, 2024, 04:43:20 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 05, 2024, 04:37:27 AM

Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

Yeah, it was the experienced of Canelo was the big difference here, but let's give props to the kid, he did good as compare to others to fought Canelo before. It was the the first time that we see Munguia in the canvass, he still had good chin though, able to recover from that flash knock down and finished the fight.

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 05, 2024, 04:37:27 AM

What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

I think it will be Berlanga next for Canelo this year and most likely this September. But not sure why Caleb Plant is confronting Berlanga and starting to beef with him. Similar to how he goes to the gym of the Benavidez before.

Overall good performance by Canelo and he is still not on the sunset of his career as most of us thought that he could not pull the trigger anymore.

Canelo continues to be unchallenged because he is picking challengers that he can easily beat what happened here could happen again with Berlanga, he is taking good care of his legacy by not fighting worthy challengers like Benavidez and he may regret these years after he retires because when all talks about Canelo legacy the name Benavidez will always come out as one fighter he keeps ducking.
If he wants to keep fighting for the next years he should fight him now not later when his body cannot keep anymore.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 05, 2024, 04:37:27 AM

Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

Yeah, it was the experienced of Canelo was the big difference here, but let's give props to the kid, he did good as compare to others to fought Canelo before. It was the the first time that we see Munguia in the canvass, he still had good chin though, able to recover from that flash knock down and finished the fight.

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 05, 2024, 04:37:27 AM

What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

I think it will be Berlanga next for Canelo this year and most likely this September. But not sure why Caleb Plant is confronting Berlanga and starting to beef with him. Similar to how he goes to the gym of the Benavidez before.

Overall good performance by Canelo and he is still not on the sunset of his career as most of us thought that he could not pull the trigger anymore.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on May 05, 2024, 11:41:25 AM

Canelo was just too much for him. Don't know what lies ahead for canelo but he has locked up his legacy. Boxing needs some fresh new blood coming in. UFC has kinda taken over the combat sports scene. I'm a huge boxing fan so I hate to see the sport lag but there isn't much out there in terms of multiple quality boxers that sit in the same weight class.

With the Saudis becoming involved in the sport we are starting to see some improvement, but the corrupt organizations keep holding the sport back. We are starting to see the amount of world titles start to creep up again. This card last night had 3 interim world championships on the undercard. The best fighters don’t have to fight each other because the WBC & WBA will just create titles out of thin air so everyone can be champion. Instead of ordering Canelo to fight Benavidez, Benavidez gets an interim belt so he can co-exist as champion alongside Canelo without threatening their cash cow.

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Really? You really consider that Munguia was that bad in this fight? I think he did great. I think the fight result (score) should be more close; at least not 117-110 as one of the judges gave. If Munguia was really so bad as you say, the fight would not go full distance. But, Jaime walked forward like a tank, simple boxing, and still fight went full distance. I liked how Jaime set high fight tempo.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on May 05, 2024, 11:41:25 AM

Canelo was just too much for him. Don't know what lies ahead for canelo but he has locked up his legacy. Boxing needs some fresh new blood coming in. UFC has kinda taken over the combat sports scene. I'm a huge boxing fan so I hate to see the sport lag but there isn't much out there in terms of multiple quality boxers that sit in the same weight class.

Canelo has neutralized the volume puncher. It was like a sparring for Canelo.
A lot of boxing speculators think Jaime could really KO Canelo, I also thought Jaime might be able to make it but Canelo figured him out already and it was exactly how speculators thought it would end. I think is because they have been in the same camp for a while and they must have observed each for a long time.

Oscar knew this would happen but he still took the risk of adding 1 loss to Munguia's record. More money to Oscar. Canelo's claim must be true.

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Canelo was just too much for him. Don't know what lies ahead for canelo but he has locked up his legacy. Boxing needs some fresh new blood coming in. UFC has kinda taken over the combat sports scene. I'm a huge boxing fan so I hate to see the sport lag but there isn't much out there in terms of multiple quality boxers that sit in the same weight class.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 04, 2024, 11:58:55 PM

If Canelo were still in his prime this likely would have been an easier fight. Instead, he needed to take some punishment but still got a decisive victory on the judges’ scorecards. Munguia made a good effort, he pressured Canelo and made it more entertaining than Canelo’s previous opponent. His defensive flaws are just too great for him to beat a top pound for pound fighter.

Canelo is just too good for Munguia he shows a veteran move and proves that he is level above Munguia, Munguia is known as a pressure fighter but a pressure fighter will have a hard time against a fighter who knows how to use the ring and has perfect timing in counter punching.

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When Munguia applied pressure he had some very good moments. There is no doubt in my mind that Benavidez, whose style is similar to Munguia but a lot more polished, with better stamina and more power, would give Canelo a serious beating. We likely won’t get that fight and Canelo will continue padding his record with second rate fighters like Berlanga, but we can still hope that perhaps Turki Alalshikh can find enough money between his couch cushions to make an offer Canelo won’t be able to refuse.

We have the same views on this Benavidez also is a pressure fighter but he presses on with his attack until his opponent yields, Benavidez is strong and relentless compared to Munguia, and Benavidez may be right in saying he saw some flaws in Canelo in this fight that he believes he can beat Canelo.
I hope the organizations and promoters will compel Canelo to fight Benavidez for the whole to find out who is the best Mexican fighter in this generation,

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 05, 2024, 04:37:27 AM

Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

As we all expected another Canelo performance, he knows what to do in the ring and how to size up Munguia, Munguia suffered his first knockdown and his lose, he will learn a lot from this fight as he is still young, just like how Canelo learned from his first loss against Floyd, loss I agree that something is lacking in Canelo's performance but he still a lot of great fights ahead of him.

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What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

I think he will hold on to his legacy and titles by fighting opponents that he thinks he can beat, I'm not too fond of a Jermall fight, Crawford can offer a good challenge but a Benavidez fight will put him a step closer to being unquestionably the best Mexican fighter, but will he give Benavidez a chance, we'll see the boxing organizations and experts knows Canelo's road to further greatness is beating the guy named Benavidez.

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Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 04, 2024, 11:58:55 PM

If Canelo were still in his prime this likely would have been an easier fight. Instead, he needed to take some punishment but still got a decisive victory on the judges’ scorecards. Munguia made a good effort, he pressured Canelo and made it more entertaining than Canelo’s previous opponent. His defensive flaws are just too great for him to beat a top pound for pound fighter.

I thought the fight was over when Munguia got floored, but he came back and finish the fight. I would say this guy is really durable, but Canelo is Canelo, he is still strong at this age now and didn't allow Munguia to gain his confidence that could beat him.

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 04, 2024, 11:58:55 PM

When Munguia applied pressure he had some very good moments. There is no doubt in my mind that Benavidez, whose style is similar to Munguia but a lot more polished, with better stamina and more power, would give Canelo a serious beating. We likely won’t get that fight and Canelo will continue padding his record with second rate fighters like Berlanga, but we can still hope that perhaps Turki Alalshikh can find enough money between his couch cushions to make an offer Canelo won’t be able to refuse.

This was an entertaining fight, I thought it would be boring since Canelo is listed as the heavy favorite, but Munguia really came to fight, he survived a knock down and came back strong, though unforunately in the end it was still Canelo who won via unanimous decision.

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If Canelo were still in his prime this likely would have been an easier fight. Instead, he needed to take some punishment but still got a decisive victory on the judges’ scorecards. Munguia made a good effort, he pressured Canelo and made it more entertaining than Canelo’s previous opponent. His defensive flaws are just too great for him to beat a top pound for pound fighter.

When Munguia applied pressure he had some very good moments. There is no doubt in my mind that Benavidez, whose style is similar to Munguia but a lot more polished, with better stamina and more power, would give Canelo a serious beating. We likely won’t get that fight and Canelo will continue padding his record with second rate fighters like Berlanga, but we can still hope that perhaps Turki Alalshikh can find enough money between his couch cushions to make an offer Canelo won’t be able to refuse.

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Quote from: Baofeng on May 04, 2024, 08:13:37 AM

Both make the weight easy and looks ready to go to war, Canelo is still the favorite.

Hopefully you already got your bets in this fight, for those who love to bet on a live underdog, then Munguia could be your guy as he is obviously looking to upset one of the best Super middle weight in recent years.

Munguia is a heavy underdog here and he will be in unfamiliar territory because in many of his fights, he is the aggressor and always tries to take down his opponent through his aggressiveness, this is the first time that he will fight someone who has controlled aggressiveness whose time is great who has a flawless defense and with a sleek movement.

I highly doubt if he can beat Canelo through decision, Canelo is a master of compiling points and he likes to break down his opponent, I hope Munguia learned Bivol's style of beating Canelo and he does this by counterpunching and fighting intelligently.

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Weigh-in guys,

Both make the weight easy and looks ready to go to war, Canelo is still the favorite.

Hopefully you already got your bets in this fight, for those who love to bet on a live underdog, then Munguia could be your guy as he is obviously looking to upset one of the best Super middle weight in recent years.

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^^ Yeah, Canelo by decision will be a good bet for us and the odds are very attractive.

Of course a per round by Canelo to win by knockout is also a good option, but the risk are very high and you need to also have some luck on your end. Munguia though is very young and we will give credit to him for fighting Canelo. This kid has cojones and for sure, we wouldn't be surprised that he will go mano-a-mano and try to outbox Canelo. And yes youth is on his side and let's see how he will take advantage young age or the fresher of the two.

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Both great fighters will fight in consecutive days and they are both heavy favorites.

We ain't making money out of this unless we risk it with the underdogs which I doubt will win. Canelo will definitely be protected. Inoue is a monster. What can we do as a gambler? Grin

I guess what we can do is just predict what round it will be finished in this selection.

1.86 for Canelo in a decision ain't bad. I mean, he ended with a decision against John Ryder, the same with Charlo, and it could end the same way against his new opponent Munguia. I think I will just take that option.

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