Canelo Alvarez - Jaime Munguia May 4 Super Middleweight Championship

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Quote from: inthelongrun on Today at 05:37:27 AM

Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

As we all expected another Canelo performance, he knows what to do in the ring and how to size up Munguia, Munguia suffered his first knockdown and his lose, he will learn a lot from this fight as he is still young, just like how Canelo learned from his first loss against Floyd, loss I agree that something is lacking in Canelo's performance but he still a lot of great fights ahead of him.

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What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

I think he will hold on to his legacy and titles by fighting opponents that he thinks he can beat, I'm not too fond of a Jermall fight, Crawford can offer a good challenge but a Benavidez fight will put him a step closer to being unquestionably the best Mexican fighter, but will he give Benavidez a chance, we'll see the boxing organizations and experts knows Canelo's road to further greatness is beating the guy named Benavidez.

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Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on Today at 12:58:55 AM

If Canelo were still in his prime this likely would have been an easier fight. Instead, he needed to take some punishment but still got a decisive victory on the judges’ scorecards. Munguia made a good effort, he pressured Canelo and made it more entertaining than Canelo’s previous opponent. His defensive flaws are just too great for him to beat a top pound for pound fighter.

I thought the fight was over when Munguia got floored, but he came back and finish the fight. I would say this guy is really durable, but Canelo is Canelo, he is still strong at this age now and didn't allow Munguia to gain his confidence that could beat him.

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When Munguia applied pressure he had some very good moments. There is no doubt in my mind that Benavidez, whose style is similar to Munguia but a lot more polished, with better stamina and more power, would give Canelo a serious beating. We likely won’t get that fight and Canelo will continue padding his record with second rate fighters like Berlanga, but we can still hope that perhaps Turki Alalshikh can find enough money between his couch cushions to make an offer Canelo won’t be able to refuse.

This was an entertaining fight, I thought it would be boring since Canelo is listed as the heavy favorite, but Munguia really came to fight, he survived a knock down and came back strong, though unforunately in the end it was still Canelo who won via unanimous decision.

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If Canelo were still in his prime this likely would have been an easier fight. Instead, he needed to take some punishment but still got a decisive victory on the judges’ scorecards. Munguia made a good effort, he pressured Canelo and made it more entertaining than Canelo’s previous opponent. His defensive flaws are just too great for him to beat a top pound for pound fighter.

When Munguia applied pressure he had some very good moments. There is no doubt in my mind that Benavidez, whose style is similar to Munguia but a lot more polished, with better stamina and more power, would give Canelo a serious beating. We likely won’t get that fight and Canelo will continue padding his record with second rate fighters like Berlanga, but we can still hope that perhaps Turki Alalshikh can find enough money between his couch cushions to make an offer Canelo won’t be able to refuse.

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Quote from: Baofeng on May 04, 2024, 09:13:37 AM

Both make the weight easy and looks ready to go to war, Canelo is still the favorite.

Hopefully you already got your bets in this fight, for those who love to bet on a live underdog, then Munguia could be your guy as he is obviously looking to upset one of the best Super middle weight in recent years.

Munguia is a heavy underdog here and he will be in unfamiliar territory because in many of his fights, he is the aggressor and always tries to take down his opponent through his aggressiveness, this is the first time that he will fight someone who has controlled aggressiveness whose time is great who has a flawless defense and with a sleek movement.

I highly doubt if he can beat Canelo through decision, Canelo is a master of compiling points and he likes to break down his opponent, I hope Munguia learned Bivol's style of beating Canelo and he does this by counterpunching and fighting intelligently.

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Both make the weight easy and looks ready to go to war, Canelo is still the favorite.

Hopefully you already got your bets in this fight, for those who love to bet on a live underdog, then Munguia could be your guy as he is obviously looking to upset one of the best Super middle weight in recent years.

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^^ Yeah, Canelo by decision will be a good bet for us and the odds are very attractive.

Of course a per round by Canelo to win by knockout is also a good option, but the risk are very high and you need to also have some luck on your end. Munguia though is very young and we will give credit to him for fighting Canelo. This kid has cojones and for sure, we wouldn't be surprised that he will go mano-a-mano and try to outbox Canelo. And yes youth is on his side and let's see how he will take advantage young age or the fresher of the two.

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Both great fighters will fight in consecutive days and they are both heavy favorites.

We ain't making money out of this unless we risk it with the underdogs which I doubt will win. Canelo will definitely be protected. Inoue is a monster. What can we do as a gambler? Grin

I guess what we can do is just predict what round it will be finished in this selection.

1.86 for Canelo in a decision ain't bad. I mean, he ended with a decision against John Ryder, the same with Charlo, and it could end the same way against his new opponent Munguia. I think I will just take that option.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 03, 2024, 05:16:32 AM

I wasn't aware that Munguia fights dirty though, but what stuck into my mind is what Oscar says that Munguia is willing to step up and fight GGG in 2019 when Canelo failed a drug test. So this kid is really tough from the beginning. But just imagine what GGG will do to this kid back then.

I watched many of his highlights he is not a dirty fighter he is just an aggressive fighter who wants a lot of action in the ring, he can do that because he is fighting C-level fighters, Munguia is young and hungry he will step in just to become a champion, and now this is his big chance to do that, we'll see if that hunger converts to a win

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So let's see, I also aware that maybe some of us here are rooting for Munguia to win. Maybe it's time for Canelo to pass the torch to the young kid and then Jaime Munguia becoming the next face of Mexican boxing

I prefer Benavidez to be the face of Mexican boxing because he is dangerous if Munguia had a chance to fight Benavidez he would be the underdog, the Mexican top dogs in boxing are Canelo and Benavidez is a battle between this too, and I don't think Canelo will pass it to Munguia because he is under The Golden Boy Promotion of Oscar De La Hoya.

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Damn. I haven't heard about Jaime Munguia; maybe I'm not really a boxing fan. Lol. Did some research about him; he has a very impressive record with 43 wins, 34 of them by KO and zero losses. They're both Mexican. I think at the age of 33, Canelo is still young.

But if I'm not mistaken, he has started at a very young age, and we can see that he has a lot of wear and tear as well, specially 3 fights with GGG. And at least for boxing fans who insists on why Canelo chooses Mexican as his next fight as he mentioned before that he doesn't want to.

Reason being: He thinks that he represents Mexican already so he don't want to face another Mexican.

Obviously Canelo has slowed down recently. 33 is still good but prime body is at mid 20s. Canelo's style of fighting also cost him as he has a lot of wear and tear.

Canelo is still the most popular fighter around the world so most Mexicans are proud of him although I can read thru social media that there are also countrymen that hate him which started when he avoided GGG some years ago and now Benavidez.

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This fight isn't about young boxer and a veteran boxer. I watched some highlights of Jaime Munguia; he is a heavy puncher. Man have a one punch punch power. This fight might go the distance but I think Canelo can manage to win this one. And it won't be an easy fight for sure.

It is still youth versus a veteran boxer whatever angle you look at it. Jaime Munguia is young and motivated, but Canelo has the experience and has face a lot of great boxers throughout his career why Jaime is still trying to get his name in boxing, while Canelo is already the cash cow and well-established already.

Well said. Canelo's body might not be on his prime and he is small in this division but he has vast experience when it comes to world class fights. One thing I cannot imagine is Canelo stopping Mungia. That kid is tough as hell. Canelo has never been knocked down IIRC but at 33 and in a division where he is small, he might suffer a KO/TKO soon.

I want Mungia to win because Canelo is ducking his mandatory. But I am also annoyed every time I watch or remember Mungia fighting dirty.

I wasn't aware that Munguia fights dirty though, but what stuck into my mind is what Oscar says that Munguia is willing to step up and fight GGG in 2019 when Canelo failed a drug test. So this kid is really tough from the beginning. But just imagine what GGG will do to this kid back then.

So let's see, I also aware that maybe some of us here are rooting for Munguia to win. Maybe it's time for Canelo to pass the torch to the young kid and then Jaime Munguia becoming the next face of Mexican boxing.

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Damn. I haven't heard about Jaime Munguia; maybe I'm not really a boxing fan. Lol. Did some research about him; he has a very impressive record with 43 wins, 34 of them by KO and zero losses. They're both Mexican. I think at the age of 33, Canelo is still young.

But if I'm not mistaken, he has started at a very young age, and we can see that he has a lot of wear and tear as well, specially 3 fights with GGG. And at least for boxing fans who insists on why Canelo chooses Mexican as his next fight as he mentioned before that he doesn't want to.

Reason being: He thinks that he represents Mexican already so he don't want to face another Mexican.

Obviously Canelo has slowed down recently. 33 is still good but prime body is at mid 20s. Canelo's style of fighting also cost him as he has a lot of wear and tear.

Canelo is still the most popular fighter around the world so most Mexicans are proud of him although I can read thru social media that there are also countrymen that hate him which started when he avoided GGG some years ago and now Benavidez.

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This fight isn't about young boxer and a veteran boxer. I watched some highlights of Jaime Munguia; he is a heavy puncher. Man have a one punch punch power. This fight might go the distance but I think Canelo can manage to win this one. And it won't be an easy fight for sure.

It is still youth versus a veteran boxer whatever angle you look at it. Jaime Munguia is young and motivated, but Canelo has the experience and has face a lot of great boxers throughout his career why Jaime is still trying to get his name in boxing, while Canelo is already the cash cow and well-established already.

Well said. Canelo's body might not be on his prime and he is small in this division but he has vast experience when it comes to world class fights. One thing I cannot imagine is Canelo stopping Mungia. That kid is tough as hell. Canelo has never been knocked down IIRC but at 33 and in a division where he is small, he might suffer a KO/TKO soon.

I want Mungia to win because Canelo is ducking his mandatory. But I am also annoyed every time I watch or remember Mungia fighting dirty.

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It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

Yeah, I think Oscar is overshadowing Munguia here, he shouldn't make that disrespectful comments in the press conference as he has bring those old fued between him and Canelo and it shouldn't be the center of the discussion. It should be how his boy Munguia will beat Canelo.

Anyhow, he had said it already, Canelo got irritated, and if you understand a little bit of Spanish, you will understand what he said in the background hehehe. But let's see if this kind of promotion will backfire on Oscar, or if it will make this fight more interesting for fight fans.

Canelo is pissed off I think he is more pissed off at Oscar than all the fighters he faced and I believe Canelo will pour his anger on Munguia because of Oscar's antics, Oscar is always taking away the spotlight on his fighters
but when his fighters lose, he is nowhere to be found, just like when Ryan loses to Tank.
Let's see where he will be after Munguia loses to Canelo, but if Munguia upsets Canelo, I'm sure Oscar and Bernard will be everywhere for an interview.

And that will be bad for Jaime Munguia as he will vent all his anger and frustrations and all the trash talking of Oscar to him and maybe we will see a knockout victory for Canelo here. Just like what he did after that Ryan win, although today it's been question because of the PEDS allegations.

So we will see, Oscar put the stakes so high right now with Munguia and somewhat pressure him to perform his best because he has pissed Canelo. And also this is a good gauge if the old but reliable coach Freddie Roach has still has it to train a young fighter and develop him to be one of the best, just like when he guided Manny Pacquaio into greatness.

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It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

Yeah, I think Oscar is overshadowing Munguia here, he shouldn't make that disrespectful comments in the press conference as he has bring those old fued between him and Canelo and it shouldn't be the center of the discussion. It should be how his boy Munguia will beat Canelo.

Anyhow, he had said it already, Canelo got irritated, and if you understand a little bit of Spanish, you will understand what he said in the background hehehe. But let's see if this kind of promotion will backfire on Oscar, or if it will make this fight more interesting for fight fans.

Canelo is pissed off I think he is more pissed off at Oscar than all the fighters he faced and I believe Canelo will pour his anger on Munguia because of Oscar's antics, Oscar is always taking away the spotlight on his fighters
but when his fighters lose, he is nowhere to be found, just like when Ryan loses to Tank.
Let's see where he will be after Munguia loses to Canelo, but if Munguia upsets Canelo, I'm sure Oscar and Bernard will be everywhere for an interview.

So it is indeed true that when Canelo left GBP Oscar was the maddest person on earth. Canelo responded he was already Canelo even before he joined Oscar's promotion and made money out of Canelo. Canelo added that if his lawyers didn't get involved in his finances Oscar would have stolen money from him. And those who are in his promotion should lawyer up.

People should have realized by now that Oscar is scamming his boxers and what Canelo said there is like a confession to what he was trying to steal from Golovkin. And Munguia is not that different from Canelo.

This Mayo de Cinco is a very important date for Mexicans but this pisses things off. Yes, Munguia can pull an upset but Canelo already won when he got out of Goldenboy. Ryan should do the same.

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Quote from: Baofeng on May 02, 2024, 09:06:29 AM

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It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

Yeah, I think Oscar is overshadowing Munguia here, he shouldn't make that disrespectful comments in the press conference as he has bring those old fued between him and Canelo and it shouldn't be the center of the discussion. It should be how his boy Munguia will beat Canelo.

Anyhow, he had said it already, Canelo got irritated, and if you understand a little bit of Spanish, you will understand what he said in the background hehehe. But let's see if this kind of promotion will backfire on Oscar, or if it will make this fight more interesting for fight fans.

Canelo is pissed off I think he is more pissed off at Oscar than all the fighters he faced and I believe Canelo will pour his anger on Munguia because of Oscar's antics, Oscar is always taking away the spotlight on his fighters
but when his fighters lose, he is nowhere to be found, just like when Ryan loses to Tank.
Let's see where he will be after Munguia loses to Canelo, but if Munguia upsets Canelo, I'm sure Oscar and Bernard will be everywhere for an interview.

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Quote from: xLays on May 01, 2024, 11:32:20 AM

Damn. I haven't heard about Jaime Munguia; maybe I'm not really a boxing fan. Lol. Did some research about him; he has a very impressive record with 43 wins, 34 of them by KO and zero losses. They're both Mexican. I think at the age of 33, Canelo is still young.

But if I'm not mistaken, he has started at a very young age, and we can see that he has a lot of wear and tear as well, specially 3 fights with GGG. And at least for boxing fans who insists on why Canelo chooses Mexican as his next fight as he mentioned before that he doesn't want to.

Reason being: He thinks that he represents Mexican already so he don't want to face another Mexican.

Quote from: xLays on May 01, 2024, 11:32:20 AM

This fight isn't about young boxer and a veteran boxer. I watched some highlights of Jaime Munguia; he is a heavy puncher. Man have a one punch punch power. This fight might go the distance but I think Canelo can manage to win this one. And it won't be an easy fight for sure.

It is still youth versus a veteran boxer whatever angle you look at it. Jaime Munguia is young and motivated, but Canelo has the experience and has face a lot of great boxers throughout his career why Jaime is still trying to get his name in boxing, while Canelo is already the cash cow and well-established already.

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It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

Yeah, I think Oscar is overshadowing Munguia here, he shouldn't make that disrespectful comments in the press conference as he has bring those old fued between him and Canelo and it shouldn't be the center of the discussion. It should be how his boy Munguia will beat Canelo.

Anyhow, he had said it already, Canelo got irritated, and if you understand a little bit of Spanish, you will understand what he said in the background hehehe. But let's see if this kind of promotion will backfire on Oscar, or it will make this fight more interesting for fight fans.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 02, 2024, 01:42:08 AM

Quote from: robelneo on May 01, 2024, 11:34:18 PM

It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

Yes, we can't deny that fact, it's not an opinion, Oscar was the one who brought Canelo in the US to fight Floyd and that was the first time that the Americans fight have seen a Mexican that looks white, Lol. But I think Oscar just want to hype this fight though, he is a businessman after all and for sure he had move forward already and now have Ryan Garcia in him to become the next superstar. And probably Oscar is talking a page from Ryan's antic in public to draw more casual fans to watch this very important fight this weekends for non Mexicans.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 01, 2024, 11:34:18 PM

It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

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It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

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Quote from: xLays on May 01, 2024, 11:32:20 AM

Damn. I haven't heard about Jaime Munguia; maybe I'm not really a boxing fan. Lol. Did some research about him; he has a very impressive record with 43 wins, 34 of them by KO and zero losses. They're both Mexican. I think at the age of 33, Canelo is still young. This fight isn't about young boxer and a veteran boxer. I watched some highlights of Jaime Munguia; he is a heavy puncher. Man have a one punch punch power. This fight might go the distance but I think Canelo can manage to win this one. And it won't be an easy fight for sure.

He may look impressive if you base it on his record but the question is who has he fought against who has Canelo fought, The majority of boxing experts and followers think that Canelo has a huge edge in terms of power, skill, and experience, Munguia only has his youth and his hunger to rely on so on fight night we'll know who will play better.
My bet is Canelo will win by a unanimous decision but after scoring knockdowns, he will be in total control in the latter rounds when he finally checks and neutralized Munguia's power and skill, but of course I don't rule out an upset because Munguia is capable of upset.

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