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No offense for all Munguia fans, but right now is undisputed king of super middleweight and middleweight division. Munguia might be really good, but a miracle must happen for him to win by decision. Munguia can win only by a knockout. Even if he knockdown Canelo, I am sure that judges will give only 8-10 in that round and Canelo will still win by decision. The best Munguia can get in such scenario is a split lose. For Canelo to lose by decision, I think this is possible only if he goes to a different weight class.


Yes, a miracle for this fight applied to Munguia's case against Canelo, you need to win overwhelming if the fight is too close the champion keeps the title, as a challenger you need to take the title away from the champion.

For Munguia to win against Canelo he needs to overwhelm and dominate the fight, as much as possible and knock Canelo out, this is a gigantic task for Munguia he knows it but Canelo will not easily give in and Canelo has never been badly hurt in any of his fights, but miracle does happen and we have seen this happen in many fights.

I'm not going to miss this fight it's a battle of determination by a young challenger against the face of Mexican boxing, so it's going to be interesting and action-packed.
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Lol, who is that one guy who has chosen "Jaime Munguia By Decision" ? Please stand up. Who are you? Where you under the influence of substances when you have chosen that or it was a misclick? Seriously, what was motivating you to make such a ridiculous vote? Judges would never let Munguia or any other contender win Canelo by decision. It is going to be either a lucky punch and KO, or the corrupted boxing judges will always select money making cow.

I will never choose Munguia to win by decision because between the two Canelo is the skillful fighter, but I never disregard that he can upset Canelo because Munguia is young, hungry, and aggressive if Canelo underestimates Munguia like how he underestimates Bivol and pay the price.

They both have mutual respect with each other on their first face-off and press conference, it's understandable because they are both Mexicans and they both respect their capability, it's ten days to go the Mexican boxing fans will have a grand time watching these two great Mexican fighters.

No offense for all Munguia fans, but right now is undisputed king of super middleweight and middleweight division. Munguia might be really good, but a miracle must happen for him to win by decision. Munguia can win only by a knockout. Even if he knockdown Canelo, I am sure that judges will give only 8-10 in that round and Canelo will still win by decision. The best Munguia can get in such scenario is a split lose. For Canelo to lose by decision, I think this is possible only if he goes to a different weight class.

And nobody has crack Canelo before, not even GGG which I will say that toughest fight of Canelo's career and we can argue that he lost the first fight. Although Canelo has aged since that fight and has in a lot of wars as well, but nobody come close to the punishment that GGG gave him, not even Bivol as Bivol doesn't have the power, he is just pure volume punch that Canelo can't avoid.

So yeah, maybe just a lucky punch that Canelo is not looking that might gave Munguia a chance in this fight.  Or simply Canelo is still go good and score a lopsided dominant in the judges scorecard.
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Lol, who is that one guy who has chosen "Jaime Munguia By Decision" ? Please stand up. Who are you? Where you under the influence of substances when you have chosen that or it was a misclick? Seriously, what was motivating you to make such a ridiculous vote? Judges would never let Munguia or any other contender win Canelo by decision. It is going to be either a lucky punch and KO, or the corrupted boxing judges will always select money making cow.

I will never choose Munguia to win by decision because between the two Canelo is the skillful fighter, but I never disregard that he can upset Canelo because Munguia is young, hungry, and aggressive if Canelo underestimates Munguia like how he underestimates Bivol and pay the price.

They both have mutual respect with each other on their first face-off and press conference, it's understandable because they are both Mexicans and they both respect their capability, it's ten days to go the Mexican boxing fans will have a grand time watching these two great Mexican fighters.

No offense for all Munguia fans, but right now is undisputed king of super middleweight and middleweight division. Munguia might be really good, but a miracle must happen for him to win by decision. Munguia can win only by a knockout. Even if he knockdown Canelo, I am sure that judges will give only 8-10 in that round and Canelo will still win by decision. The best Munguia can get in such scenario is a split lose. For Canelo to lose by decision, I think this is possible only if he goes to a different weight class.
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Yes, that's what Mexican are known for, total action in the ring, just like the last great Mexican boxers JCC Sr, or the JMM, MAB and EM, they all give us great fights in the ring and I think it will continue like that for the next generation of Mexican boxers.

Now both are Mexicans so we should expect no clinching but just fighting it out and see who are the best right now. It could define like the transfer of authority to Munguia as the next face of boxing if he beat Nelo hear. Or Canelo still some fire inside of him and continue to welcome anyone, Berlanga, Bivol and David Benavidez in his next fight.

Munguia's time to shine will not come to this fight, what Floyd Mayweather did against the then-young Canelo, Canelo will do the same against Munguia, Canelo is now a polished fighter who knows how to deal with Munguia's eagerness and aggressiveness, Canelo displayed when he fought Mayweather.

I expect a unanimous decision so as not to embarrass Munguia in front of the Mexicans or he will knock Mungia to show the Mexicans how a great Mexican boxer he is.
Its going to be Canelo all the way, could have been different if is Benavide
I don't think we can compare them, Canelo was not even known to American boxing fans that time when he fought Floyd. But here, Munguia is already fighting in the US, handled by Golden Boy already. So his name rings a bell already for some of us who followed as he is in the 154 lbs - 168 lbs now and has become a champion if I'm not mistaken. And I do agree with @Darker45, this is a opportunity for Munguia, so everything rest in his shoulders, whether he can take the limelight and shine or not, still up to him and not on Canelo's hand. He has control of his destiny in this fight.
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Munguia's time to shine will not come to this fight, what Floyd Mayweather did against the then-young Canelo, Canelo will do the same against Munguia, Canelo is now a polished fighter who knows how to deal with Munguia's eagerness and aggressiveness, Canelo displayed when he fought Mayweather.

I expect a unanimous decision so as not to embarrass Munguia in front of the Mexicans or he will knock Mungia to show the Mexicans how a great Mexican boxer he is.
Its going to be Canelo all the way, could have been different if is Benavide

Whether Munguia shines in this fight or not, the point is that this is his time to shine. This is his moment. This is his break. This is the biggest opportunity that has ever come in his 43 professional fights, in his entire boxing career. The Canelo team is choosing him because they belittle him. They treat him as an easy opponent. He should prove them all wrong.

It's most likely that this is going to be a Canelo fight all the way. That man isn't an undisputed champion and a legend for nothing. He's great, but Munguia should rise to his level come fight night. I will be cheering for Munguia this time. Canelo suffering defeat in the hands of Munguia seems worth it.
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Yes, that's what Mexican are known for, total action in the ring, just like the last great Mexican boxers JCC Sr, or the JMM, MAB and EM, they all give us great fights in the ring and I think it will continue like that for the next generation of Mexican boxers.

Now both are Mexicans so we should expect no clinching but just fighting it out and see who are the best right now. It could define like the transfer of authority to Munguia as the next face of boxing if he beat Nelo hear. Or Canelo still some fire inside of him and continue to welcome anyone, Berlanga, Bivol and David Benavidez in his next fight.

Munguia's time to shine will not come to this fight, what Floyd Mayweather did against the then-young Canelo, Canelo will do the same against Munguia, Canelo is now a polished fighter who knows how to deal with Munguia's eagerness and aggressiveness, Canelo displayed when he fought Mayweather.

I expect a unanimous decision so as not to embarrass Munguia in front of the Mexicans or he will knock Mungia to show the Mexicans how a great Mexican boxer he is.
Its going to be Canelo all the way, could have been different if is Benavide
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And this is the kick off press conference in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AOiXOqK_c

Everything looks relax, Munguia looks very young here as compare to Canelo, Lol. But we should really expect a war here, both are Mexicans. Canelo also explains why he chooses Munguia as he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican.

Canelo is still a huge favorite but for sure, Mexicans are going to be proud of this fight in their holiday.

Never seen a Mexican fighter that is boring in the ring, it seems like that's their reputation and they will live with it, so for sure we will  witness a firepower here. However, I just a bit disappointed with how Canelo choose his opponent, because he is already at the twilight of his career, so he should be seeking big fights against an opponent that could potentially give him a 50/50 chance, not this one that he is a heavy favorite to win, but then there's nothing we can do here so let's just watch and enjoy this upcoming fight.

That's their reputation, they bring a good fight and entertain the crowd, they are similar to the Filipino boxers, that's why in the past when a mexican faced a Filipino, you can expect that it's going to be a war, but that was the time of Manny and Donaire, now that they both are retired in boxing, there's no Asians that are competing in a championship bout, expect for Inoue but this guy choose to fight in Japan.

I understand the frustration, but let's see what's next for Canelo after this... .hopefull we will see the fight that we are all anticipating.

Canelo vs Bivol could be a good rematch,, (regardless of the outcome of the fight of Bivol against Beterbiev ....)

Yes, that's what Mexican are known for, total action in the ring, just like the last great Mexican boxers JCC Sr, or the JMM, MAB and EM, they all give us great fights in the ring and I think it will continue like that for the next generation of Mexican boxers.

Now both are Mexicans so we should expect no clinching but just fighting it out and see who are the best right now. It could define like the transfer of authority to Munguia as the next face of boxing if he beat Nelo hear. Or Canelo still some fire inside of him and continue to welcome anyone, Berlanga, Bivol and David Benavidez in his next fight.
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Lol, who is that one guy who has chosen "Jaime Munguia By Decision" ? Please stand up. Who are you? Where you under the influence of substances when you have chosen that or it was a misclick? Seriously, what was motivating you to make such a ridiculous vote? Judges would never let Munguia or any other contender win Canelo by decision. It is going to be either a lucky punch and KO, or the corrupted boxing judges will always select money making cow.

I will never choose Munguia to win by decision because between the two Canelo is the skillful fighter, but I never disregard that he can upset Canelo because Munguia is young, hungry, and aggressive if Canelo underestimates Munguia like how he underestimates Bivol and pay the price.

They both have mutual respect with each other on their first face-off and press conference, it's understandable because they are both Mexicans and they both respect their capability, it's ten days to go the Mexican boxing fans will have a grand time watching these two great Mexican fighters.

Here's a video of their face-off

Canelo STEPS to Jaime Munguia in FIRST face-off at press conference!
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And this is the kick off press conference in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AOiXOqK_c

Everything looks relax, Munguia looks very young here as compare to Canelo, Lol. But we should really expect a war here, both are Mexicans. Canelo also explains why he chooses Munguia as he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican.

Canelo is still a huge favorite but for sure, Mexicans are going to be proud of this fight in their holiday.

Never seen a Mexican fighter that is boring in the ring, it seems like that's their reputation and they will live with it, so for sure we will  witness a firepower here. However, I just a bit disappointed with how Canelo choose his opponent, because he is already at the twilight of his career, so he should be seeking big fights against an opponent that could potentially give him a 50/50 chance, not this one that he is a heavy favorite to win, but then there's nothing we can do here so let's just watch and enjoy this upcoming fight.

That's their reputation, they bring a good fight and entertain the crowd, they are similar to the Filipino boxers, that's why in the past when a mexican faced a Filipino, you can expect that it's going to be a war, but that was the time of Manny and Donaire, now that they both are retired in boxing, there's no Asians that are competing in a championship bout, expect for Inoue but this guy choose to fight in Japan.

I understand the frustration, but let's see what's next for Canelo after this... .hopefull we will see the fight that we are all anticipating.

Canelo vs Bivol could be a good rematch,, (regardless of the outcome of the fight of Bivol against Beterbiev ....)
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Lol, who is that one guy who has chosen "Jaime Munguia By Decision" ? Please stand up. Who are you? Where you under the influence of substances when you have chosen that or it was a misclick? Seriously, what was motivating you to make such a ridiculous vote? Judges would never let Munguia or any other contender win Canelo by decision. It is going to be either a lucky punch and KO, or the corrupted boxing judges will always select money making cow.

Lol, it wasn't me.

Yeah, the only way for anyone to beat Canelo is through a knockout as a decision win is a slim possibility or not in the book if your opponent is Canelo Alvarez. Yo be fair with Canelo, i do think that he would handle Munguia easily as he is still young to outsmart Canelo, Cinco de Mayo is a show intended for Canelo so it would be an easy win for him i think.
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And this is the kick off press conference in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AOiXOqK_c

Everything looks relax, Munguia looks very young here as compare to Canelo, Lol. But we should really expect a war here, both are Mexicans. Canelo also explains why he chooses Munguia as he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican.

Canelo is still a huge favorite but for sure, Mexicans are going to be proud of this fight in their holiday.

Never seen a Mexican fighter that is boring in the ring, it seems like that's their reputation and they will live with it, so for sure we will  witness a firepower here. However, I just a bit disappointed with how Canelo choose his opponent, because he is already at the twilight of his career, so he should be seeking big fights against an opponent that could potentially give him a 50/50 chance, not this one that he is a heavy favorite to win, but then there's nothing we can do here so let's just watch and enjoy this upcoming fight.
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Lol, who is that one guy who has chosen "Jaime Munguia By Decision" ? Please stand up. Who are you? Where you under the influence of substances when you have chosen that or it was a misclick? Seriously, what was motivating you to make such a ridiculous vote? Judges would never let Munguia or any other contender win Canelo by decision. It is going to be either a lucky punch and KO, or the corrupted boxing judges will always select money making cow.

 Grin, but I do agree, even in the Bivol fight wherein we see the Bivol dominated the fight from first round to the last, and yet the judges trying to look like the fight is very close and they almost robbed Bivol. But I guess they know the repercussions if they will do that in the fight, so the best they can do is a 115-113 score.

But here, it might go down in the judges card but it might be a lopsided score in favor of Canelo. And with that, if Munguia will want to win and doesn't want the judge to influence the score then he should go for the jugular knockout win, but that is very hard to accomplished as Canelo hasn't lost with that way. Even a knockdown is very hard for Munguia to do.
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Lol, who is that one guy who has chosen "Jaime Munguia By Decision" ? Please stand up. Who are you? Where you under the influence of substances when you have chosen that or it was a misclick? Seriously, what was motivating you to make such a ridiculous vote? Judges would never let Munguia or any other contender win Canelo by decision. It is going to be either a lucky punch and KO, or the corrupted boxing judges will always select money making cow.
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I was not aware the Roach is the trainer of Jaime Munguia. But in any case, it's good to see that coach Roach still get some clients who believed in him and maybe we can see Munguia and him devising a plan on how to neutralized Canelo or at least put Canelo in a defense mode.

And from what I heard, he is giving Munguia more props than maybe Benavidez that's why he chooses him despite the excuse of not fighting another Mexican. Obviously he will be the A-side here, but Munguia getting more of a experience.

It's also mentioned that there is a rematch clause here.
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And this is the kick off press conference in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AOiXOqK_c

Everything looks relax, Munguia looks very young here as compare to Canelo, Lol. But we should really expect a war here, both are Mexicans. Canelo also explains why he chooses Munguia as he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican.

Canelo is still a huge favorite but for sure, Mexicans are going to be proud of this fight in their holiday.
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This is just my ignorant opinion. Munguia can learn a lot from Canelo's defeat in the hands of Bivol. Munguia is much younger than Bivol when the latter defeated Canelo, so I believe he can perform better.

He's got exactly the same height and reach as Bivol, so that advantage is already there. He could very well make use of them to frustrate an aggressive Canelo. Jabs and a powerful punch every once in a while could keep the distance. Canelo has to come close. Munguia should make sure he doesn't allow this.

Also, once frustrated in chasing him, Canelo might bait Munguia to let him come in. That's what he should avoid. Munguia should make sure his style prevails all throughout the fight.

This is not an ignorant opinion and it's actually a good observation because of how you can beat a great fighter like Canelo of course by checking his weaknesses and those weaknesses can only be seen in fights where he loses the bouts and two fighters have done that, Floyd Mayweather and Bivol.

Canelo loses to these two fighters because of their good counterpunching ability, they exploit Canelo's offense, so Munguia needs to be a good defensive boxer and do a lot of counterpunching and don't go chasing Canelo to score a knockout, Munguia loves to attack something that may not work against Canelo.

I think Bookies knows better. The odds is 5:1, that tells Canelo is heavily favored and he will likely win the fight.  During Canelo's fight with Bivol, he was only a slight favorite, but this one, bookies are pretty sure that Canelo will prevail as the winner. I haven't seen Canelo was upset in the past in odds like this, so I would not take chances betting for Munguia although the odds are very attractive, instead I'll stick with the real analysis that Canelo will win, question is what round will it end?

I think that's just about right now, I mean they have their own metrics to come up with this odds and 90% of it they are correct, as list picking who should be the favorite and who should be the underdog.

But there is this 10% that the underdog might win, that's how any sports it, very unpredictable specially in this sports wherein just a single punch will change everything and we have seen so many upsets before. Canelo might learn for his Bivol lost and not get their and think that he has the advantage. He should go there and look for a knockout.
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I think Bookies knows better. The odds is 5:1, that tells Canelo is heavily favored and he will likely win the fight.  During Canelo's fight with Bivol, he was only a slight favorite, but this one, bookies are pretty sure that Canelo will prevail as the winner. I haven't seen Canelo was upset in the past in odds like this, so I would not take chances betting for Munguia although the odds are very attractive, instead I'll stick with the real analysis that Canelo will win, question is what round will it end?

I'm sure you don't just look at the odds and decide which player to bet on.

When Canelo faced Bivol, he wasn't just a slight favorite. He was a heavy favorite. He was -500. That's 1.2. Those are exactly the same odds that are released now insofar as his fight against Munguia is concerned. So, as far as the bookies are concerned, they had the same level of prediction as to Canelo's winning probability against both Bivol and Munguia.

I might risk a little for an upset.
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This is just my ignorant opinion. Munguia can learn a lot from Canelo's defeat in the hands of Bivol. Munguia is much younger than Bivol when the latter defeated Canelo, so I believe he can perform better.

He's got exactly the same height and reach as Bivol, so that advantage is already there. He could very well make use of them to frustrate an aggressive Canelo. Jabs and a powerful punch every once in a while could keep the distance. Canelo has to come close. Munguia should make sure he doesn't allow this.

Also, once frustrated in chasing him, Canelo might bait Munguia to let him come in. That's what he should avoid. Munguia should make sure his style prevails all throughout the fight.

This is not an ignorant opinion and it's actually a good observation because of how you can beat a great fighter like Canelo of course by checking his weaknesses and those weaknesses can only be seen in fights where he loses the bouts and two fighters have done that, Floyd Mayweather and Bivol.

Canelo loses to these two fighters because of their good counterpunching ability, they exploit Canelo's offense, so Munguia needs to be a good defensive boxer and do a lot of counterpunching and don't go chasing Canelo to score a knockout, Munguia loves to attack something that may not work against Canelo.

I think Bookies knows better. The odds is 5:1, that tells Canelo is heavily favored and he will likely win the fight.  During Canelo's fight with Bivol, he was only a slight favorite, but this one, bookies are pretty sure that Canelo will prevail as the winner. I haven't seen Canelo was upset in the past in odds like this, so I would not take chances betting for Munguia although the odds are very attractive, instead I'll stick with the real analysis that Canelo will win, question is what round will it end?
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This is just my ignorant opinion. Munguia can learn a lot from Canelo's defeat in the hands of Bivol. Munguia is much younger than Bivol when the latter defeated Canelo, so I believe he can perform better.

He's got exactly the same height and reach as Bivol, so that advantage is already there. He could very well make use of them to frustrate an aggressive Canelo. Jabs and a powerful punch every once in a while could keep the distance. Canelo has to come close. Munguia should make sure he doesn't allow this.

Also, once frustrated in chasing him, Canelo might bait Munguia to let him come in. That's what he should avoid. Munguia should make sure his style prevails all throughout the fight.

This is not an ignorant opinion and it's actually a good observation because of how you can beat a great fighter like Canelo of course by checking his weaknesses and those weaknesses can only be seen in fights where he loses the bouts and two fighters have done that, Floyd Mayweather and Bivol.

Canelo loses to these two fighters because of their good counterpunching ability, they exploit Canelo's offense, so Munguia needs to be a good defensive boxer and do a lot of counterpunching and don't go chasing Canelo to score a knockout, Munguia loves to attack something that may not work against Canelo.
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I think the last time I saw Munguia fight was when he was an undercard in Canelo's fight. He was a young boxer who seemed innocent yet brutal. He was a rising star. And then I've forgotten about him. I'm now surprised he's now 43-0 and not yet making a huge name. Perhaps because he doesn't have a loud mouth?
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Only 1 voted for Munguia though, not surprise, and also as there's no change in the odds, Munguia still 5:1. So maybe we should discuss what strategy Munguia or what plans him and his team should employ here. Canelo is known to be a slow starter, so he should take advantage of it. And the blue print is there already, Bivol beat him with volume and not allowing Canelo to settle in his comfort zone.

This is just my ignorant opinion. Munguia can learn a lot from Canelo's defeat in the hands of Bivol. Munguia is much younger than Bivol when the latter defeated Canelo, so I believe he can perform better.

He's got exactly the same height and reach as Bivol, so that advantage is already there. He could very well make use of them to frustrate an aggressive Canelo. Jabs and a powerful punch every once in a while could keep the distance. Canelo has to come close. Munguia should make sure he doesn't allow this.

Also, once frustrated in chasing him, Canelo might bait Munguia to let him come in. That's what he should avoid. Munguia should make sure his style prevails all throughout the fight.
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