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It depends on how the farmer themselves on how they will move their products. If you're willing to give up your products in bulk for a small price or by piece for a more competitive price. Essentially, it's not capitalism's fault, basically capitalism rewards people who are innovative and works hard. Besides, I've seen both rich and poor farmers.
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Capitalism means capital is power, people with capital use their capital to acquire more capital without caring about social, economical and environmental consequences on society. People with capital power use predatory methods to destroy local production like dumping cheap produce from other countries, however the cost of that product in terms of capital, social and environmental terms is very high, for example using cheap labour or workforce exploitation to reduce prices, using cheaper methods of production to cut cost but these cheaper methods are not environment friendly(GMO or pesticides). Farmers are the actual producers or we can say at the bottom of production chain and capitalists find its easier to exploit farmers due to various reasons including poor policies of the government to protect farmers rights and investments, on other hand most governments directly or indirectly support capitalists because most of the political groups are dependent on capitalist donations or i can say legal corruption.
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy. I believe that if people at the base level are given enough incentive, then those above them will reap greater rewards, and which will in turn trickle down back to those who built the entire system.

Why does capitalism so often neglect the backs upon which it's built? How does this system manage to thrive for so long, when the masses are receiving the least benefit?
Capitalism has lasted so long because it's the only system that works, personally I do not like calling it capitalism because that is just the natural way things work, what you are describing instead is some kind of loyalty to your local products and that can be done but not everything can be produced locally and even if it could someone else will create a more effective process in some other place and create a cheaper product that you could buy.
They have driven more people out of poverty than any other economic system in human history.
The middle class has evolved completely from a poorer class. China will move about 800 million people out of poverty and living in the middle class in the back of a largely capitalist market, and they are changing to adapt to the world.
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy. I believe that if people at the base level are given enough incentive, then those above them will reap greater rewards, and which will in turn trickle down back to those who built the entire system.

Why does capitalism so often neglect the backs upon which it's built? How does this system manage to thrive for so long, when the masses are receiving the least benefit?
Capitalism has lasted so long because it's the only system that works, personally I do not like calling it capitalism because that is just the natural way things work, what you are describing instead is some kind of loyalty to your local products and that can be done but not everything can be produced locally and even if it could someone else will create a more effective process in some other place and create a cheaper product that you could buy.
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Many farmers are very rich haha, maybe you have the lowly peasant farmer stereotype in your head. Hey capitalism isn't perfect, but all countries implement it to some level, especially due to globalization, it's the way the world works now.
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From humanitarian and ecological viewpoints, many aspects of the capitalist economic system are irrational. although they.  State laws on treatment of farm workers, not usually very strong to start with, are commonly ignored.

Well, it is capitalism, after all. Capitalist tends to ignore the small desires or wishes of the poor such as farmers. They tend to oppress them and take advantage of them because their main goal is to accomodate themselves or the capital. Although, theew are instances that capitalism uplifts the economic and financial system of a country. tje fact that there is an unequal share in interest and profit among the privelege and the not only poses a greater gap and bigger problem, this time in the social status of a country.
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From humanitarian and ecological viewpoints, many aspects of the capitalist economic system are irrational. although they.  State laws on treatment of farm workers, not usually very strong to start with, are commonly ignored.
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy. I believe that if people at the base level are given enough incentive, then those above them will reap greater rewards, and which will in turn trickle down back to those who built the entire system.

Why does capitalism so often neglect the backs upon which it's built? How does this system manage to thrive for so long, when the masses are receiving the least benefit?
thats why its called capitalist do you think they will allow the farmers to grow?if they do grow who will work for them?imagine if a farmer can gather enough amount to have their own land to crops so they will become equal,that is the main reason why capitalist need not to let those farmer to grow and find better lives..sad but this is reality and only a hard handed government that will have a dedication and will to take this as serious matter..
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If you look at historic charts you can also see that despite the rise of the capitalism, the poverty index has changed in recent dekades and we have far less people who live in extreme poverty and have less than 1 dollar to live per day. If you look at the countries that are still very poor you often see rather socilism that doesn't work as now in Venezuela.

That's true. Also, it's important to point out that the rise of financial inequality which is always referred to by left-wing politicians and economists in their criticism of capitalism, doesn't mean that poor are becomin poorer. In fact, all income classes are becoming richer in the capitalist society, in spite of the increase of financial inequality.
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.
capitalism is the major reason why many third-world countries are poor and cannot make head way in development and come out of poverty. Local content is the best way for any government to come out of poverty and suffering. Local products develop a country why capitalism enslave them. 

Unfettered capitalism is always a double edge sword (see Dirty Money in Netflix). It encourages scrupulous business practices just for profits. I think there should be a balance between capitalism and socialism to better the community instead of just a select few. The still widening wealth gap is creating more tension between the haves and have nots. Spreading the wealth will ensure sustainability of harmony in the community.

Things are not as black and white as often portrayed, capitalism has a bad reputation but it also means free market and less government. At the other end of the spectrum you get socialism where everything is regulated or owned by the government. The claim that capitalism is responsible for the poverty in 3rd world countries is misleading. Certain capitalistic countries as the US have certainly not done much for the farmers in african countries, except selling them their genetically upgraded seeds. But look at a socialistic led country as China and tell me how they have helped poor regions to prosper. You won't find anything either. Forget about these concepts. If the crypto revolution is successful there will be the biggest wealth transfer from rich to poor regardless what type of governments are in place.


In simple words capitalism "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state."
Following points are obstacle for farmer in capitalism society...

          1.The adequate financial base
          2.Inaccessibility to every farmers
          3.Lack of technological and working base
          4.The unsure return of credit
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If you look at historic charts you can also see that despite the rise of the capitalism, the poverty index has changed in recent dekades and we have far less people who live in extreme poverty and have less than 1 dollar to live per day. If you look at the countries that are still very poor you often see rather socilism that doesn't work as now in Venezuela.
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Capitslism makes the poor to become poorer. I agree to what other say about them. They control markets and that is what they are good at. The poor ones become like slaves who unable to resists anything about the sysyem. Unable to defend oneself and there's nothing that could ever be done but accept that they are under the system. Its like they are digging holes for poor while they live happy atop of it. Why not patronize our own local products forget and about them? Maybe we need freedom.

Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of man. The middle class has grown entirely out of a class of people who used to be poor. China will move an estimated 800 million people out of poverty and subsistence living to the middle class on the back of a predominantly capitalistic market, and that's only possible because China has embraced economic reform and moved away from a purely communist system.
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Everybody is part of this , we all want stuff for the cheapest prices.
And if we can't get it we will get it overseas for a cheaper price , so people have to be willing to buy stuff locally.
It is a fact that if we want our country to become stable and economically strong, we need to invest into our own businesses and utilize products made by our very own people. In this way, we can save the large portion of budget that we use for importing things from other states.

Importing is not good for the overall economy of the country. Focusing on our own products’ quality improvement will reduce import ratio.
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I agree local product should promote and patronize first more than anything because when we do it more and more job created in our own country and more countrymen will be benefited from it and it also helps for the growth of the economy, while on the topic of capitalism there's always has these in any business who start business without it? I'am sure there is, but in any case there also some who started their business in small amount and become successful.
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.
Really? As far as I know, China is not anymore pure communist nor capitalist country. China slowly adapts the Socialism, wherein there is a boundary between capitalists and communists.
Capitalism is not the only successful economic theory. In fact, there is no such economic theory is successful. All of them leads to economic crash. All of economic theories have their own failures and negative effects in us. If the capitalism is the suitable model in our economy, maybe as of now all of countries will follow other capitalist region in the world.
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Humanity has not yet found a better system than capitalism. Many economic systems have been tried many times. But none of them lasted as long as capitalism.
Wild capitalism and normal capitalism are different from each other. A capitalist order in which people have equal rights and freedoms will provide opportunities for everyone.

Capitalism allows the strong to prey on the weak.  It serves as the best economic system for modeling the natural order of things.  The problems with capitalism stem from those who seek to manipulate it, which is the natural progression of a capitalistic mindset.
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only capitalists like capitalizm. capitalisme is not good in poor country
because product price is control company , goverment can't intervention, so product price can high price
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anyone promoting a local product means that he or she loves his country and it is a means to boost the nation's economy, by promoting and using local products we have helped our own economic brother, and one thing we must be aware of is the increasingly capitalist ideology and animate the children of the nation, do not be influenced by my brother's ideology, let us lift the domestic economy by loving products made by the nation
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I do not think that capitalism can be supplanted by something better because capitalism is not an invention it is just the natural order of things, if I'm a hunter and I hunted a deer then I want to keep most of it after all i did all the effort, I can share some of that with the community but I'm not going to share it all if I had to do it then I'll have no incentive to hunt anymore, why risk my life? So what people call capitalism is nothing more than the natural order of things.
What you're describing is not Capitalism. It's mostly what we call "Trade" (interchange of goods that are perceived as "property" of some individual or group).

Hunter-gatherer societies were much different than Capitalist societies. In part, something similar to "trading" was a part of their economic system, but personal status based on religion and traditions often was much more important than the pure amount of food a person provided to the community. Most hunter-gatherer societies had a complex gift economy, where "trading" was done in a completely different way than in Capitalist societies. Trading is natural if goods (including work) are perceived as scarce, but Capitalism in the sense of the dominant economic system that emerged in the Italian Renaissance (in cities like Venice) has a whole set of new mechanisms and traditions - for example, a whole lot of very abstract kinds of "property" in financial products which other societies would probably call "gambling".
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In capitalism private property is sacred, the individual is respected with the right to a pursuit of happiness.Without capitalism many great innovations would have never come about.Many would argue that the worker isn't respected and is repressed by an oligarchy of corporate leaders,this is simply untrue due to the fact the worker has at his disposal the most precious commodity in the world,his labor.If a worker isn't treated fairly and receives to little pay,they have the ability to quit there job and work at a better company.
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