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February 27, 2017, 09:21:45 AM
#46
One good point posted by Docnaster is that people should promote local products and more important buy local. It doesn't make sense to import products from the opposite of the world. Why buy milk from 10 hours driving when there are farmers in you area. Farmers who struggle to sell their milk for a decent price (as for exemple in Europe the price is controlled by europe, farmers don't decide the price they want to sell, crazy isn't?) There are farmers who for exemple, producing 1L of milk cost them 0.50$ and they are forced to sell it at $0.35. Where are the profits ?
If the big firms were acting like this they would go bankrupt in no time... There are farmers working 60 hours per week and earning less than someone lazy ass and feed by the gov. money each month. Now since some years there are companies that finally realized buying local not only help the local economy but it cost them cheaper at the end. Less import cost, less this, less that.
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February 27, 2017, 05:59:09 AM
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Capitalism - one of the most successful bussiness and economy theorys. Capitalism are based on private ownership that means of production and their operation for profit. A lot of countries like UAE , US, China, Japan have free market for people who are intrested to earn. And people who are private owners or having ther own bussiness they would never change they idea of "capitalism" to any other "communism" ideology, because of opportunities

No doubt that those countries seems to have a very good economic stability especially with Japan, I admire this country for being capitalist.

If we are going to compare countries that are implementing capitalism to non-capitalist, capitalists countries are very successful.

And those that aren't, seems to be dependent on other countries product, shipment, import-export economy.
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February 27, 2017, 05:19:40 AM
#44
Capitalism - one of the most successful bussiness and economy theorys. Capitalism are based on private ownership that means of production and their operation for profit. A lot of countries like UAE , US, China, Japan have free market for people who are intrested to earn. And people who are private owners or having ther own bussiness they would never change they idea of "capitalism" to any other "communism" ideology, because of opportunities
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February 27, 2017, 02:25:17 AM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

There's  nothing wrong to promote local products and make proud, but it depends on the quality of the product.  Well, I can say that  in my country some products are local.  If I want to buy branded,I will go to the store relatively expensive.Those goods may satisfy human needs but those needs will not be met if people do not have sufficient money.




The whole point in the competition and in order to give work to break the other. We need more and seek a balance in everything. If the market will deal with one defendant, the monopoly to the good development of the economy will not.
The government support Domestic companies too from policies and laws like Foreign Companies have different kinds of Income Tax compared to the Domestic counterpart, laws such as Foreign companies are not allowed to own a real estate, or even 51% of the ventured company needs to be locally owned. This evens out the unfair advantage of Foreign companies entering to a new country it is up to them on how they will succeed in the new country.
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February 27, 2017, 01:31:23 AM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

There's  nothing wrong to promote local products and make proud, but it depends on the quality of the product.  Well, I can say that  in my country some products are local.  If I want to buy branded,I will go to the store relatively expensive.Those goods may satisfy human needs but those needs will not be met if people do not have sufficient money.




The whole point in the competition and in order to give work to break the other. We need more and seek a balance in everything. If the market will deal with one defendant, the monopoly to the good development of the economy will not.
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February 27, 2017, 01:22:29 AM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism to me is still the best form of economic policy no matter how people paint to be bad. When some people try as much as possible to have sleepless light and later got successful then decides to change cars or live in expensive mansions then you see the community coming out to say what of the people that cannot afford one, but the issue is what were they looking when others are working hard to be successful. Thats what capitalism preaches to me that in as much you can work hard then you can be rich if luck is on your side not the economy that will restrict your growth at the expense of lazy people in the community...
In this regard, even the bitcoin currency is very suitable for its anonymity in order to be able to break one's business without any interference. Only if we take such a system, ideally, is to my mind are broken personal interests and the state will suffer.
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February 27, 2017, 01:11:35 AM
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
Do you pay attention to what kind of social standards in the country and how the justice and law for one and how act. Then it will be clear what form of government is better. Can capitalism is not so bad.

Capitalism is an economic system. Law and justice is another thing. I am talking about economic view and maybe you didn't understand me. I am saying that although capitalism has a lot of flaws and is far from perfect is the best alternative we have until now. I am faithful a new better economic system will replace it in a not so distant future.
It is hoped that by the new economic system will be some sort of benefit to the people. People like living poorly under current conditions and will be afraid of life and future opportunities. While I understand that there are examples of Western countries and North America, which demonstrate strong social standards in the form of their economy. This is achievable.
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February 23, 2017, 05:33:42 PM
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
Do you pay attention to what kind of social standards in the country and how the justice and law for one and how act. Then it will be clear what form of government is better. Can capitalism is not so bad.

Capitalism is an economic system. Law and justice is another thing. I am talking about economic view and maybe you didn't understand me. I am saying that although capitalism has a lot of flaws and is far from perfect is the best alternative we have until now. I am faithful a new better economic system will replace it in a not so distant future.
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February 23, 2017, 05:27:55 PM
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
Do you pay attention to what kind of social standards in the country and how the justice and law for one and how act. Then it will be clear what form of government is better. Can capitalism is not so bad.
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February 23, 2017, 05:11:32 PM
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
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February 23, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
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Not only that it helps the business where you are buying your products. The advantages are big on both part from being nearer to the source and also having a cheaper alternative. Supporting your local brand will help the economy of the country to go big, look at South Korea know they are home for 2 big companies namely Samsung and Hyundai which continues to dominate the market in their own industries.
I think that it was such an order, which dictates the modern business, the only way there can be a modern world. No other way. Mankind has long been on the side of capitalism.
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February 23, 2017, 03:52:34 PM
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I wanted back in the time to read Karl Marx. But I was told that his teachings or views it is a utopia.
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February 23, 2017, 03:16:43 PM
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Those who lived or lives in the former Soviet Union, he knows the difference between socialism and capitalism. Probably many of the USSR do not want to go back.
I think you'd find people on eother side of the spectrum, a lot of former Russian Soviets would say that it was a lot better in the communist era when everything they needed was provided for.
And on the other hand you'd find a lot of people who appreciate the freedom to make as much money as you want for yourself.

OP's claims are a bit strange though, having some protectionist measures to promote the local economy doe not exclude having a capitalistic system.
Sure it may not be the purest form of capitalism = free trade worldwide without restrictions, but it's still capitalism.

Also, most countries cannot produce everything they need themselves, that's why hard-core communism will always fail.
I think that modern people appreciate freedom of choice and movement. Now if somewhere something does not like it, you can go to where your heart desires, but not in the Union. Such opportunities were not there.
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February 23, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
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Those who lived or lives in the former Soviet Union, he knows the difference between socialism and capitalism. Probably many of the USSR do not want to go back.
I think you'd find people on eother side of the spectrum, a lot of former Russian Soviets would say that it was a lot better in the communist era when everything they needed was provided for.
And on the other hand you'd find a lot of people who appreciate the freedom to make as much money as you want for yourself.

OP's claims are a bit strange though, having some protectionist measures to promote the local economy doe not exclude having a capitalistic system.
Sure it may not be the purest form of capitalism = free trade worldwide without restrictions, but it's still capitalism.

Also, most countries cannot produce everything they need themselves, that's why hard-core communism will always fail.
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February 23, 2017, 02:27:27 PM
#32
Those who lived or lives in the former Soviet Union, he knows the difference between socialism and capitalism. Probably many of the USSR do not want to go back.
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February 23, 2017, 02:18:10 PM
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Not only that it helps the business where you are buying your products. The advantages are big on both part from being nearer to the source and also having a cheaper alternative. Supporting your local brand will help the economy of the country to go big, look at South Korea know they are home for 2 big companies namely Samsung and Hyundai which continues to dominate the market in their own industries.
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February 23, 2017, 01:53:05 PM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.
promote local products is not the best way because people always be looking the best product for their needs and if local products quality still less than products from other country i think it's useless but if locals products quality more good rather than other country maybe people will considering to use it
and indirectly it will help to balance the socio-economic
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February 23, 2017, 01:45:37 PM
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided
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February 23, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.
Yet, Chinese capitalism is what will be its downfall. Sure, they may be growing out of control, but perpetual growth is a myth.

They are destroying their air with polution, tons of people get killed in all sort of accidents due shitty quality on machines and all sort of products, people keep getting constricted into a life of total slavery for pathetic wages.

The only chinese doing good are the ones that make business with the western world, the wage slaves are fucked.
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February 23, 2017, 01:19:23 PM
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By integrating more throughly Europe, so that there is a European policy strong
It is an illusion to think that a small country can still make weight politically in the face of States-continents (United States, China, India, Brazil).
It is an illusion to think that the current EU can politically influence the global economy. The only way out is to have a genuine European policy, which involves a transfer of sovereignty, a constitution that takes the road and which is democratic, strong institutions etc... In short everything that makes a modern federal State. Only then we will be quite strong politically and economically for the structure of world trade and economic policy. Meanwhile, we can only have the choice of those who were able to unite before us.
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