Topic: Cashback with wagering requirements and same bonus make sense? - page 3. (Read 990 times)

It's your fault for not reading the ToS, I agree, but do you believe that the casino acted correctly in sending the advertisement to your email!?
How many people do you think actually read the ToS?

Regardless of what is written in the "fine print", I believe that every website needs to at least have "character" and act in a fair manner without the need to try to deceive its customers in order to increase its profits.

It's true that marketing is what drives business, but acting in bad faith and trying to take advantage of rules that are highlighted much less than the "email cover" is acting in bad faith.

I would certainly deposit my last money on this site and look for other options to have fun.

Trust and seriousness are essential nowadays, especially when we have several great options to bet on.

I like how you say "only x10 wager" yet this is an incredibly high amount and way more than you would usually find on big offers. What sort of sum of money are we talking about here? I am often put off these sort of promotions if they even mention 2x wager requirement and wouldn't dream of taking one that required x10. It is a way for casinos/sportbooks to get people to advertise "we match 300% up to $5,000" type offers when in reality they know that the player will lose all of their money long before they ever get to cash anything out and would be lucky to walk away with $10 from the offer. Always read the terms thoroughly and make sure you know what you have to do, sometimes it's better to just ignore such offers entirely.

I salute those who at least give a hint about it in the bonus page but if there isn't any rule written, i don't take time going on the TOS anymore. It seems that I already know what to expect there.

I'm having a hard time understanding it at first but after reading it a few times, I think what you are saying is we must ignore the bonuses offered but just play according to our goal if whether we are playing for fun or for the profit. That is a good advice actually. When I play I also have this mindset. I can only have an exception if I see a flash message which says a "completely free offer with no strings attached" is available or if there is a bonus that only has a "1x wager requirements".

It can only be rare though judging on how easy they are to get and it's going to be damaging to the side of the casino. If ever we are playing on a casino that has a cashback feature, this can only be an extra bonus to us and this should be the real definition of a bonus, since you can always get it no matter what.

This must be true. It's only crazy that most of them have this "send a feedback" feature and users will also get rewarded if they like the feedback or suggestion. I filled up a lot of them but I haven't gotten any response or rewards. It would be better if they just removed this kind of feature because it is only useless.

10x wager requirement is a bit fishy.

Because usually the casinos will give you certain requirements on that also. For example say if you do it in sport bets they want odds are least 1.5 or something. So the chances to lose everything become very high because each wager you have at least 40% chances to lose it all. For instance, chances to win on 50% odds, to win 10 times in a row you have to do 0.5¹⁰... The odds are under 1 in a thousand! This is why deposit deals should be avoided.

Yes that's right, I think it would be much better if everyone especially novice gamblers had a mindset like yours, but unfortunately as often happens that there are always some of them who are too easily tempted by everything that looks tempting without considering and thinking first about the various possibilities that could happen which in the end not infrequently they experience various unwanted things such as experiencing problems in withdrawals or deposits or even much worse.

Actually, regardless of anything, not all casinos that show tempting bonuses end up committing fraud, there are always some casinos that are good and provide good services such as providing real tempting bonuses for gamblers without being based on reasons that lead to fraud at the end of the story, and this is why gamblers should be wiser in choosing a casino, reputation is the first thing to consider.

One lesson I learned very early on when I started gambling was that we always have to deposit money to play without counting on a bonus and we always have to look at the money we deposit as a lost amount, which is why I don't create an account at every casino I see. Even if the casino is offering a great sign-up bonus, I don't create an account at the casino. I prefer to continue using the casino that is in my signature and I use it because I like it. Now, what I have noticed is that many people like to chase casinos that offer great bonuses and sometimes they don't take the time to research whether the casino is honest or not and they don't read the casino's TOS about the bonus. Nowadays, it is difficult to see any casino offering a sign-up bonus that has wagering requirements that people can meet.

We can say it if the terms is not written somewhere on the site, but if the terms is written then we cant judge like that.
I remember that Fortunejack did something similar in the past (not sure now) where our wager (when taking bonus) will be counted once we lose our initial deposit.
At that time the terms is clearly written in their terms of the bonus, so once players take the bonus, the players cant complain about it because we all as players agree with terms when we take the bonus regardless we read the terms or not before taking the bonus.

"Based on that explanation, it’s clear—this casino is playing dirty. They’re hiding the truth and fooling gamblers with a fake bonus program. If you just read their ads, it’s easy to fall right into the trap, and sadly, innocent people end up losing money, believing they actually have a shot at winning big. But the sad reality is, they’re the ones getting taken advantage of.

Scam sites are everywhere now, so it's more important than ever to read the TOS and stay on alert to avoid becoming a victim. Rushing in rarely ends well—especially if money’s on the line and greed’s in play."

Reading the TOS is important in knowing the rules that they're hiding to the claimant of the bonuses that they're spreading to their users. The casinos are a business and they know more the ins and outs of how to make someone deposit because of those alerts and notifications about how much giveaway that they've given to anybody. It's not my hobby to get into bonuses and when I do, I make sure that it's totally free and doesn't have some hidden charges and deposits or any rules that I have to spend more penny than of the bonus.

You are right, reading the TOS first would hurt, but also, even without reading the TOS, it's worth noting that casino, any casino, would rarely allow you to earn money through them. They can do that on rare occasions to attract more users to their platform, but normally all those promos won't make them lose money, they would go bankrupt otherwise.

Very normal on the moment or time that a certain gambler or user will really be reading up sites terms and conditions on the moment that they will be experiencing some issues about their deposits + bonuses.

If this was your first time on acquiring these bonuses then you should really be that getting used to it. They will really be always that making those deposits lose first before the bonus amount will really be starting to count
with that wagering requirement. Actually that 10x rollover is really that something appealing or something which is really that less in compared into those 20-30x roll over but what sucks on this
rule is that it do make that first counting with your capital first before bonuses on which this do really sucks.

One of the main reason on why i dont really love or want to tend to activate bonuses because of these wagering requirements. I do rather prefer on having that deposit wagering only on which it will really be
only x2 for you to be able to get out. If you are really that playing for the sake of fun then it will really be that up to you whether you do care with those wagering requirement or not.

Deposit bonuses and cashback are two different things but in essence both give gamblers bonuses but with different scenarios, and another thing of course reading ToS is an obligation for a gambler so that they avoid unnecessary mistakes, you have done it unknowingly but it's good that you realize that it is your own fault.

So maybe I can say that the unwanted thing happened because you were not careful in responding to the bonus so that you took the wrong action, every time I gamble I often find such bonus offers especially in some types of local online casinos in my country which even offer a 100% deposit bonus, it looks tempting because that way you can play longer and maybe with a large balance you will be a little closer to victory, but one of the reasons why I prefer to ignore it is because of the many requirements that seem unreasonable or impossible to pass, you should know that in the end the promotional scenario will only benefit the casino.

Reading the ToS is a must for a gamblers, whether they are a novice or veteran gamblers because we know that the rules will be different from all casinos. If we are confuse with the ToS and don't want to ask to the support system, we don't have to take the bonus and leave it like that. Many promotions and bonuses from casino that we can takes in the future so no need to worry if we miss one or two promotions.

The casino will gives more to their members and makes them satisfy so we can playing gambling as usual while waiting for the bonuses that we want and we can to fills it.

That is very true. Some casinos would spice their site updates on personal to their customers or the audience and technically believes that the bettors attention would be more focused on the texts sent by the casinos and ignorant of bettors to do their research or probably verifying through the ToS of the casinos becomes a disappointment to the bettor because the story could be a compromise.

Aside that, we can be lured by scammers when we find such email or text as a golden opportunity when we can not compromise to do our proper researches for legal verification.

It's not surprising. Of course, the casino uses these methods to attract players (first deposit bonus) and keep them (cashback on losses). But usually very difficult conditions are set there, which, of course, must first be thoroughly studied before depositing money into the casino. Personally, I don't like bonuses. It's like some kind of ropes on your hands, well, or annoying duties, because of the wagering requirement. But this is an exclusively subjective opinion.

Who has the luxury of time to read ToS, whether online or offline? I doubt a great number of people do read that, whether on casinos or banks. There's a good reason the ToS part is always written in tiny prints or it's too lengthy than necessary and that's to technically frustrate people from reading that part. That's what I think and it won't be far from it. I once had to close a bank account within two days of opening it because of its ToS which the bank pointed out to me when I got into a tight corner with them. There was no way I could've seen that because it was almost like hidden. These guys know their deceit.

On the cashback thing; no one has to rely on that and think they can maximize that bonus. It's all hoax.

And even worse, not only because cash back is not a very good deal (yes, better than nothing, but still), but because it seems that the promised deposit bonus was the fundamental reason for joining that casino and not another.

In civil law, you can litigate and seek for some kind of compensation if you are harmed by an unfair clause; but if the error was so big that you would have not agreed or made the decision if you had known it, then the agreement should be considered null and void.

I don't think the OP's deposit is so large that it is worth suing the casino for that reason (is it?), but what is clear is that the offering was misleading and that this kind of practices are a very bad sign from a casino that, IMO, should be avoided.

Bonus is what I fear the most in gambling today but thanks for the reminder of reading the Ts&Cs of casinos. Nowadays I seldom read them because I do not opt for bonuses again, if it is just $5 I have it in my account with a better level of control, it's okay by me. Even if your former thought was right, saying I have to wager x10 of my money is not convenient to me not to say I will have to lose my money first before I have access to the bonus. It's our choice though but let's always choose wisely and not gamble in a way that will cause bonus-induced emotion.

Sometimes, there are many conditions to avail yourself of a certain kind of promo that a casino might be offering. It’s always important to read the fine print thoroughly and understand what you need to do to get that promotion and have it in your account. It’s going to be rough if you don’t, so I agree with the OP to read the fine print, etc.

Most times there's always a clause to whatever that seems too good to be true, so it's very important to read between the lines to find out what it is. Most of us makes the mistake of not diligently reading through TOS, we might just hurriedly glans through without really making sense of what is written. These gambling sites wants to entice their customers to make deposits, that is why they'll give them bonus promises, and the gambler will be excited to claim it, not knowing that there's a price before they can use the bonus. It's a lesson for us to always scrutinize anything that is a giveaway, whether it's favorable to us or not.