Topic: Casino Games or Gambling Considered Sports, really! (Read 608 times)

billiards and poker are sports in my country, where these two sports have different ways of dealing with their opponents, for example
Billiards is a sport that prioritizes skills in playing techniques,
but for poker itself in my country it is a sport that relies on chance, experience, intuition, patience, endurance, and pretending to read the opponent but the aspect of luck is very important in the poker game itself

CHESS players are waiving at you lol.
Poker isn't just a luck based game, it's a game of minds and guts.
A sport may not require physical activeness, just like Chess and Esports.
However, I never really considered poker as a sport though I've seen poker tournament, but poker is widely known to be a gambling activity.
Poker may only be considered as sport in the gambling industry.

It turns out that before (once) billiards was considered a game of chance? I wonder on what basis - I can not find a single element in this game that depends on luck and not on skill. Then darts or archery can be considered gambling.
As far as poker is concerned, this is a controversial decision. After all, if we put 2 professionals against each other, then the outcome of their confrontation will be determined by luck, since poker has a rather limited set of tricks and strategies.

I think it will be more appropriate to consider poker games as mind game or strategic game because it only needs the presence of mind and strategy but I don't think they should be considered sports because it doesn't need physical strength and agility. It's a luck-based game that doesn't require physical activity.

As for chess, without a doubt and definitely 99.99% accepted by the majority as a sport, such a position is absolutely reasonable and the reason is that everyone who has had the opportunity to play it from a competitive position or has the passion to follow it as an amateur understands it that way without Doubts.

With chess and perhaps in the face-to-face effect of the confrontation, it does not require a physical demonstration at the point of essence of win, then not determines by action or physical skill to overcome your opponent, but the rules and conditions of competition at the different levels of ability to play it in the confrontation of your rivals, add it similar to that competitive spirit that is sportsmanship.

 

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Now you cannot cover "sport" with a finger, in the aforementioned phrase cover the "sun," so, in a general opinion and I think to close ideas:

I believe that the term "compete" in its essence is gaining ground on its qualifying to define "sport," with dexterity and ability.

That opinion expressed previously by me has had transformations over time, for example it is worth remembering that the pistol duel was considered an Olympic sport.(e.g.)

That example only as a reference of how the impartiality and personal opinion of what we believe to accept as a sport is not always or should be correct, even a group or federation that approves or disqualifies does not imply being right.

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I am interested in your words, as for the changes that occur from each type of sport development, I think it has gone through the selection stage by involving elements of requirements that categorize it as part of sports.
chess, billiards, have met the requirements to associate it with the type of sport. I think today's sport does not only involve a lot of physical activity like most types of traditional sports.

I will give one example, chess, the reason why chess is considered a sport. Chess is a competitive game, chess requires physical fitness, chess requires skill, chess has rules and ethics.
from the points I mentioned, all of them meet the requirements to enter it in a sport. although I do agree that some casino games do not qualify to be part of the sport.

Even if the competitions widely regarded as sports have a mental component, no matter how small it may be, I agree that a sport is a competition that relies mostly on the physical aspect of the person competing.

Any other competition with a similar format to a sport but in which the mental component is the most prevalent is a game of skill and nothing more, and we should not use the word sport at all when we describe them, so esports are just a video game skill competition while chess falls into the category of a board game skill competition.

What you said made me think a little. Which Chess cannot be said to be a sport. And I just noticed it now although it's been a while since it's true that most sports have a physical component like the Olympic marathon, Boxing, and so on. But boxing, Football games, and Basketball can also be used as gambling methods through betting, right? Also, does a Billiard sport as well?

So if chess and poker and billiards aren't sports, it's a talent to speak of, right? where the battle happens by using their minds on how to defeat their opponents through the strategies that a player will make. It seems a bit more tiring compared to the physical sports that most people know.

They call sports something that have physical presence and say include some skills involved to beat you opponent like poker is categorised under this while slots are more of luck based and are termed as pure gambling because you just need to be lucky for winning the game with some multiplier while others don't.

Billiards mainly rely on skills though so it's not a surprise that it gets recognized while Poker, on the other hand, is the one that I didn't expect to be included, I know it's gaining popularity but it's nice to see a casino game eventually becomes a sport.

There's none in my country since the other casino games we have here doesn't require skills unlike poker.

For me, sport is the Olympic Games of the ancient Greeks. 

The sports disciplines of these competitions included running, various types of jumps, boxing, pankration, and chariot racing.  All these competitions required great physical effort. 

At the same time, many peoples of the world had complexes of physical exercises that had a military-applied orientation.... 

By the way, in addition to the Olympic (sports) games, the ancient Greeks also had separate competitions of musicians, thinkers, etc.  But it was no longer a sporting event! 

To some extent, this is now a political issue.  Powerful public-financial bureaucratic organizations seek to control as many human activities as possible (not only purely sports, but also e-sports, intellectual games, gambling, etc.) This is politics.

It might've been considered luck only if there were no other players or if rounds can last up to only so long but no, games could last to pretty lengthy times afaik, especially on a professional level. It's also brutal tbf, since even if we do consider that it isn't luck only, the fact stays that there will always be a factor of luck involved so you'd sometimes get hit on the ass without knowing. Other sports may be a grind but imo, but poker is also a grind. After all, it isn't a lottery game, it's a game where you play against other players and slowly take what's theirs for yours.

I am not a poker player I find it mentally challenging but all my friends who play poker think that it should be categorized as a mental sport because its mentally exhausting yes there are situations where you depend on luck but if you're against an individual its a battle between mental toughness that is why we have this poker face look you try to look not to look you are in a bad card and that's a tough task to make and mentally challenging so I treat it as a mental sport.

When we try to look at games that could future as sports, I think Cheers, Draft and Scrabble fits perfectly. Although, they are not traditional casino games but these games are hosted and they are relaxing as much as they are entertaining and cracks you up. It pushes your limit of anticipation and calculations on ways to guide yourself.
Only disadvantage and o suppose accounts for some of the reasons is not most suitable for casino games is the timing it takes to finish a round. They remain some cool and competitive games around that could exercise the brain.

I know Poker is well known as a very strong player. And the skill is gaining massive amount which is much more than other players. They play this game with great skill and their skills bring them victory. They did not acquire this skill in a day but it took them a whole year to gain experience. Playing this game of poker so well that it outlasts other fortunes.

I think because poker has different types of cards and can have a value from high to small so when playing poker it all depends on whether the calculation is appropriate or not and sometimes it is very difficult to guess the cards that are owned by the opponent because of the display cards that are issued. by the dealer only a few cards so it requires a very high brain power to think what cards the enemy has.

All skills in sports can be acquired over the years you don't become an expert in just a few years there's a level to it like chess where you have a rating and you compile it through years of playing and developing your skills and based on this article dedicated to poker


https://upswingpoker.com/is-poker-a-sport-or-a-game/

I'm not a poker player but if the experts in poker and the players and those involved in poker say that it is a sport then it is a sport they even have a tournament for it.

I think that is also true, poker is a game which is based on skill as well as luck and it is different from some games which are totally based on luck. We're not talking about a game against the system, poker is a game against the skill of other players and it's great to play in land-based casinos.

I don't know how poker can actually be interpreted as a mental sport, is it because the players are fighting each other's skills or what?

Yes, There are a lot of times that professional players like Phil Ivey won a pot with a bad hands because he was known for being so good on player that's why his opponents always assumed he always got a good hands but in reality, he is just good on prediction and mind reading which doesn't involved luck at all. He is losing sometimes and that might be the luck kicking but Phil Ivey can dominate any table anytime he wants because he has skills and not luck. He earned respect because of his skills and not by being lucky so definitely poker is not a luck based game at all because a professional poker player can beat a winning hand with a garbage hand by playing the opponents mind.

I can also say that poker is not based completely on luck.
As we have seen, these poker players have certain skills that they can win not just because of luck but with their skills.
But these skills are acquired throughout the years of playing this game.
This is why some of the top professional poker players are really doing good in this game and making this game as their source of living.