Topic: Casino Games or Gambling Considered Sports, really! - page 2. (Read 579 times)

Yup, you cannot categorize Poker as completely as a Luck-Based games rather it is a combination of skill and luck as the cards that you'll be receiving is the real deciding factor whether you win or not.

Professional poker players are there as they are able to turn things the other way either they a bad card or a good card. However, they still lose once they encounter someone who has an incredible card which is purely based on luck.

Of course, with the calculation of sports betting research, this is indeed the right one for me who has minimal risk. The risk depends on us who will know which team will put a strategy in how that can make us sure to bet small or large amounts. there are many good sports teams that make a big win reference.?

Saying poker was completely "luck-based" seems not appropriate.

If everything here is just about luck, then there should be no such thing as "professional" poker players. Some poker players are called professional in the first place because they can able to think of various strategies to use in different situations regardless of how good or bad their card is. There are even bad cards that can turn the table and that's because of good skills.

Back to the topic, if these popular casino games like poker are now considered sports by some countries, then it means it's getting more appreciation. Aside from that, the fact that it was considered sports means it meets the criteria of becoming as a sport or becomes eligible to be considered by that.

Locally, Billiards is famous in our country. All thanks to Efren "Bata" Reyes who uplifts the world of billiards to many fans of the game.
You can see the game being played almost everywhere. From the garage of the house to the streets.
There was this one game too almost the same as billiards but it uses what we call "pitsa" which is sort of hockey ball-like. Flat and round.
You can also see that on the streets of Manila.
It's already considered a sport to us way back in the 80-90s but only for the players and not officially or because it was never in the Olympics.

Poker is a competitive game although there's not much physical thing that will happen in it. But the mental though, loads of it is needed if you want to win the game especially in the bluffing strategy, reading the deck, and predict the outcome.
Billiard on the other hand should have been considered a sport long time ago. There's some physical movements that was needed in it and then also a mountain of mental strategies to think about the next move or where you want the ball to go.
Billiards is like a sport here in my place already. Imagine standing up for a long time, that's exhausting.

I seriously do not think "Poker" should be a Olympic Sport, because it simply is not practical. You cannot have a spectator sport for people to only cheer when the final result is shown.  

You also cannot have a crowd of people cheering for a player... and seeing what their cards are.. and what other people's cards are.... without someone screaming at the top of their voice.. what the other players hand is.  

If anyone wants to win the jackpot then they should only play gambling games because those are the only ways to earn big amounts.
With sports betting, the odds for the favorite teams are not something that can make you a millionaire and for the low-rank teams the odds may be good but the risk of losing the bet is more because the low-profile teams usually lose the match and you are at a risk if you are betting on them.

Unfortunately, sports are now not limited to physical activities but rather it also involves skill-based games such as games. In this scenario, chess, pool and card games can now be included on sports classification.

Also, if you think about it, there are massive games that is also considered as sports that doesn't require physical exertion such as E-sports. Various things have through times and we should be able to adjust along with it.

People try their luck on luck base game because they are trying to hit big jackpot if there's huge prize at stake. Also some are bored since they can't find good match up where they are familiar with that's why some other guys spend time just to have fun waiting for the schedule on the sports they want to bet. Gambling on sports might be profitable if you know which team are good to bet on but even though how good we are on the sports we are betting on still the game is rolling and anything can happen so there's still chance to lose upon betting specially if we didn't research if they have complete rooster on the game.

I am against such a classification.  In my opinion, even chess cannot be considered a sport. 

Sport is a competition in which participants win due to their physical qualities.  Inflated body, instant reaction, powerful muscles - these are the qualities of real athletes. 

And for example, the competition of rappers - musicians, chess players, poker players or the game of go - is not a sports competition. 

But now there are a lot of things in the world that are not based on logic.  This is sad.

I think that is correct and the chances are also lower to start a gambling addiction when you bet on sports or you play poker which truly involves much more skill than luck to win consistently but without forgetting that luck is also an important and determining factor.I think this week will be my last playing slots and that starting from the next one the amount of money I spend on slot machines I will start playing on sport betting because all the main events have started in August.

As for that entity acknowledging poker as a sport I completely agree with them because it takes a lot of skill to win in Texas Holdem so it can be considered a sport.

While most of the players prefer betting in sports that are played with skills and strategies, some still go with quick profiting trying to hit those jackpot prizes, and are also quick to lose their funds. That is why if we want to gamble more reasonably, gambling in sports would be the most profitable one since we got bigger chances to win especially if we know how the game is played well.

As many have already mentioned the philippines is a power in the game of pool and without a doubt they have the best player of the last 30 years(!?)

 The world champion Efren Reyes as someone already mentioned it (link).  Quite a character and good story as humble origins became a benchmark.

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Here they also exist some spaces,  sometimes are very improvised, anyway  I went once and did not repeat the experience.

But I still respect it and I consider that for a large part it is true entertainment and they have a good time, so as long as everything is for recreation and healthy fun, it's fine.

Now about if this is sports...no comment.  

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Trying to understand your point of view...why you mention illegal gambling, it's something else...there are illegal boxing fights there are countries where gambling in any way is illegal...if a group of people gather somewhere and promote betting on any sport is illegal.

 The issue here is, in any case, to ask yourself, would you play a poker tournament every Sunday for 6 months, which involves traveling, staying in hotels, being away from the family in a federative league in your country, as other sports do for the simple fact of being the number 1 or the famous phrase compete...  

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I commented in another post, there is no particular emphasis.

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Yes it is a pity but like poker, although less with pool game there is a tendency to relate it to gray situations.

 But fortunately for pool game you can always find very nice places to play even with a family atmosphere.

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The specific fact of a hand in poker is circumstantial, each situation that you add to the positive result of your game is what gives you the ability in the long term, in poker you lose playing well but if you understand that and apply it In each situation, always without errors, the cards you receive do not always determine your success, if not how you play your cards in every situation.

How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

Yes, the sport that the OP mentioned and is officially categorized as a skill based game, and the outcome of the match mainly depends on the player's skill, expertise, knowledge and understanding of the game.
and skill is the main factor in the outcome, not luck or chance. As is the case with poker, where there is more skill involved, a strong mentality, as well as a strategy to be last.

Maybe the skill of playing poker is almost the same as sports in general, so people include poker and billiards in the sport. But I also don't know why billiards and poker are included in sports games. Or maybe because media is used to play so that it is included in the sport. But whatever it is, we will follow what has been compiled by people who are competent in their fields and call it a sport.

That's the best comparison if its a sport there should be levels and categories you cannot fit newbies to higher level players because the results will be obvious and it's unfair but in a game like a poker even newbies have a chance to win against players who's been recognized to play for a long time, the result should be based on skill and little luck is present if it's all about luck then its gambling and cannot be considered as sport.

In my country, billiards has become a favorite sporting facility for lovers of billiards, many facilities are provided by the owner, such as Score Girl, To have an attraction for visitors, basically the pool game arena is a sports facility, but lately billiards have been made like a hidden casino gambling.

If you ask about traditional sports in my country, there are many, but it is just a tradition, not worldwide, billiards is certainly one of the sports recognized by (KONI) and internationally, actually billiards in my country as a means of sports and tournaments, but many are misused as a means of gambling, not a few if caught being used as gambling Casinos will lead to trial.

Yes, this is true, but in chess there are often situations (they are called complications) that cannot be calculated (during a game with a limited time resource) and if a player chooses them, then with certain reservations this can be called gambling. And if, for example, a master plays against a grandmaster, then in such murky situations the master will gain an advantage in a certain number of cases. But of course, when compared to poker, all poker is such a murky situation 

Billiard should be considered sport, if table tennis is seen as sport, why billiard not considered as sport too, billard is sport has it fits the sport category than being a casino. That is why in many countries, billard is considered sport. But if billard is listed on any sport betting site, this does not change the rules and everything about it, even if it is in the category of sport or casino.