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Just for clarification for the OP's question regarding "What casino games are sports in your country?" , does it mean those games/sports that were being played exactly in the casino but began to consider it as sports and already included in sports events?

I'm not aware that billiards before are mostly played in a casino hall. Even if does, I think that was already a usual sport before. Our country is known for having good billiards players since the classic year that's why I was surprised that billiards is actually a casino game, maybe in some countries.

You just give me a trivia there, OP. Smiley

I wasn't aware either though billiards is a famous sport in our country as well. It's actually a famous pastime for people in our community and they enjoy betting on it but I didn't know as well that it's a casino game. Sports are actually considered as physical games in our country. Those that require skills and strength like boxing and basketball. There are added digital sports but they're only familiar to those who are into digital sports.
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Just for clarification for the OP's question regarding "What casino games are sports in your country?" , does it mean those games/sports that were being played exactly in the casino but began to consider it as sports and already included in sports events?

I'm not aware that billiards before are mostly played in a casino hall. Even if does, I think that was already a usual sport before. Our country is known for having good billiards players since the classic year that's why I was surprised that billiards is actually a casino game, maybe in some countries.

You just give me a trivia there, OP. Smiley
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I think it's obvious that sports and gambling are different. Sport is an activity that does not involve money; no one else spends money to choose who wins. But gambling is an activity that uses money and can choose anything to bet on, other than using sports to bet and choose who will be the winner. But sports and gambling are both entertaining activities for people who can enjoy them.
And it creates some questions about why Billiard and poker are included in sports games as it was not known to be like that.
I have no argument as the criteria fit them and make them be called sports games as we know that Billiard is also like any sports games that require skills and possibly the basis for this. But talking about Poker, that is something different as I considered this gambling like any of these card games.
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Games that don't just rely on luck alone, I think it's also appropriate to say it's a sporting match, domino and poker can be said as sports because it takes skill and mentality to read the situation that's going on, this is like playing chess even though we all know how to play it, but it takes a mind-blowing strategy to win it.
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I think it's obvious that sports and gambling are different. Sport is an activity that does not involve money; no one else spends money to choose who wins. But gambling is an activity that uses money and can choose anything to bet on, other than using sports to bet and choose who will be the winner. But sports and gambling are both entertaining activities for people who can enjoy them.
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Well, I agree since poker is a mind game, not a luck based one. As long as they could compete with it, I believe we can call it a sport. Also, there's nothing wrong calling it a sport, because when they are playing poker as a sport, they are using the casino money but the profit they would earn each battle won't be credited to them. I believe the price depends on what place they would get in the competition (if I'm not mistaken).
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I consider casino and gambling mental and emotional sports. It keeps you going, giving you a reason to continue playing. It feels like a never ending roll coaster. Cool
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Billiard or pool is a sport, not considered as gambling.
It's similar like how people say chess isn't a sport, but a game since there's no relation with physic, in the end it should be a sport.

The reason why billiard or pool isn't a gambling is you can play without betting your money, you can make a fun, freestyle, and show your skills on the table. I'm really satisfied when see a trick shot from the legend Efren Reyes.

Overall I think what make an activity whether sports or just a game played in casino to be gambling is what is attached to it and that is money known as the price tag for proving right or wrong in that activity. For a time I wanted to consider games exerted with strength to be sports alone but if we look deeply, there is bet placed on games to make them gambling. So if there is a price placed on any activity including eating, dancing, clapping and all other things placed against the other in monetary terms, I think the act itself qualifies as bet and that is same as gambling.
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There’s a thin line separating between sports and gambling which is money involved. Technically gambling can be considered as sports if it didn’t involved money because it’s for entertainment and competing to other players but since players is risking money in able to get entertained, Gambling can’t be considered as sports for that particular reason.
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There's nothing wrong with poker being considered a sport.
Nowadays even playing video games like CS:GO and FIFA is considered a sport. There are big CS:GO and FIFA gaming tournaments and those gamers are being treated like sports athletes. Grin This seems way more ridiculous than calling poker a sport.
There aren't any traditional gambling games in my country, that can be considered an actual sport.
AFAIK, billiard isn't as popular as snooker. For some reason, snooker is really popular in the UK and worldwide, while I don't see any big billiard tournaments being hosted anywhere. I remember that some billiard players where betting money on a game of billiard back in the 90s, but I don't that this has the level of popularity nowadays.
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Billiard or pool is a sport, not considered as gambling.
It's similar like how people say chess isn't a sport, but a game since there's no relation with physic, in the end it should be a sport.

The reason why billiard or pool isn't a gambling is you can play without betting your money, you can make a fun, freestyle, and show your skills on the table. I'm really satisfied when see a trick shot from the legend Efren Reyes.
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Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

I think sports games like boxing, football, etc are not directly linked with gambling games. There are sports on which gamblers bet on the matches. Chess is also not a gambling game, you can only bet on chess matches.

The casino games like dice, slots, or even lottery are not skill based games, they are just luck based games where you win because of your good luck and nothing else. Some people consider poker as a skill based game which i disagree.
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Why is Billiards (or pool, or whatever you call it) considered a gambling game...? Pretty sure it's a separate sport altogether, I do know there are different types of pool games but they aren't really connected to gambling afaik. I mean if you compare it to card games like poker, then yea it's pretty far from being considered as a gambling game imo. Not to mention that billiards is a pure game that requires skill, unlike poker where luck is still in play.

On the topic though, poker would be the most general answer here imo, it's a well-known card gambling game after all. Other than that I don't think there's any other that comes close. The others are just different renditions of poker, or are purely luck based which is probably why they aren't considered sports.
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AFAIK, when I was still young, billiards or pool is already a sport and I used to look at those players placing bets on each round and that's why basically it's a good gambling game. Also, there's this sport originated in India that I've known when I grew up but haven't played that but it's like a close game to billiard/pool. However, I don't know if players that play that game used to have bets, maybe there is also betting on it. We've got Indian friends in the forum and I think they can testify and explain how it works.
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Horse Racing. I'm not really interested, I have never tried this online but I see it present in Bitcoin bookie. People bet all the time offline with horse racing but we also know they consider it sports. Horses are the ones who run so the contribution of the jockeys is just to give the command and lead where the horses go.
Most of the games involved with animals are of the same. The person gives command and it is the animal that does it. If I'm not wrong horse race is considered as gambling, because of money involvement. Events associated with horse such as horse riding, Dressage, Show Jumping, Polo, Horsemanship, etc seems to be under the sports category.
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Horse Racing. I'm not really interested, I have never tried this online but I see it present in Bitcoin bookie. People bet all the time offline with horse racing but we also know they consider it sports. Horses are the ones who run so the contribution of the jockeys is just to give the command and lead where the horses go.
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anything game using cards is always associated with gambling so its interesting Brazil they see it differently. but billiard is always a sport here. we play this games in a usual pub in town.

Jai alai is considered sports but is often associated as gambling.
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What casino games are sports in your country?
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I think that is the point in question, the competitive nature, you have said it well, study the game, do physical activities, have a healthy mind, sit down to play for hours and do it for the simplicity of being designated the best or the number one of your country or maybe in an eventual world championship, that is does it with sports characteristics.



Billiards isn't a gambling game. It's a game where the most skilled ones win. If it were a gambling game we would see a larger variety of players on top positions, since they would rely on luck, instead of skills.
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Billiards is a betting game, if you have not done it, I have bet, on 8-ball and 9-ball, two variants that I like a lot, and believe me the variance exists, but without a doubt it is a game that skill counts and a lot, it is also a game of a lot of strategy.

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Just because people gamble on billiards' results, it doesn't mean it can't be considered a sport. Billiards is a sport people bet just like soccer, basketball, tennis, boxing and so on.
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It is not the point in question, I think you are dispersed in the idea, it is not a question that you bet on who wins, that is another thing or topic.



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I understand you but it is about sportsmanship and basically we would not be competing for money.

And beware, it seems that I am promoting casino games to be a sport, not at all, that is what the debate is about, I am in the same position as you, perhaps, but if you look at it from the point of view of the field of competition simple and the fact of being number 1, is the simplicity of amateur sports.

Perhaps we will have some non-traditional version xgames-casinos  Cool , as happened by chance with these so-called x-games.



What casino games are sports in your country?
chess isn't really a gambling game but I grew up seeing people bet on it. it is also considered a sport in my country.

seeing poker recognised as a sport immediately reminded me of chess. also, It's kind of funny how the United Kingdom recognize poker as a sport(specifically "mind/mental sport") but does not recognize chess as a sport despite chess being more of a mental sport than poker, I wonder what are their reason for not recognising chess as a sport.

It is the heart of the matter, depending on the culture and the country in its adoption this also influences, if more people practice it I suppose that this leads to having positions in positive reference depending on the game in question.

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It's a bit confusing how you conflate a more active sport, like billiards where you at least have to get up, be a bit flexible and navigate around the table with poker which is purely a card game. It would be better to compare it against something like chess. Poker is definitely a game for geniuses at the highest levels but it does already have many large scale tournaments and offerings for all sorts of players. You could throw "esports" out there as a better and more similar example, which takes dexterity and plenty of practice to become the best - but for most games it is not really strenuous physical exercise and they should both be acknowledged for different kind of effort.

I don't know who says that, nobody is comparing them...
...the only thing here is that Poker and the game of billiards are organized in sports federations, and even billiards has Olympic intentions to Paris 2024, whether or not you consider it a physical exercise, in the development of the game itself, It is not conclusive to say that it is not a sport, look at the sources or the information provided.

There are many things today that for the simple fact of putting on a flannel and a bib with the number 10 already feels like a sport, there are many examples, take a look at video games or Drone competitions.


There is definitely a fine line separating gambling from so called games of skill. Some say fantasy sports should be categorized games of skill rather than gambling. In the USA some states have outright banned fantasy sports platforms like fanduel and draftkings which some view as a controversial policy.
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That's right, we are at a point where, as there is an audience for everything and entertainment is the one that commands any thing or event that is organized, seeks to "entangle" or dispose of that fine line as you say.



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Since you have already done some research, can you name more casino games that are considered sports?

I hope that the technique of throwing the dice does not reach the extremes of the situation of cataloging a sport... as I said that is the debate, I asked first...  Wink

In any case, some Casinos their special halls where they bet, therefore many qualify e.g. Backgammon is one, and in fact there are world circuits, etc. In several countries it emerges as a mental sport or alternative sports.
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So, you think that other traditional games where you bet have that status.
What casino games are sports in your country?

This puzzled me honestly. If my understanding is correct, you are saying that poker and billiards are considered casino games but now their status is now elevated into real sports? Billiards is a known sport since the very beginning, I don't know that it was a casino game.

Casino games that are sports in our country? I found that question difficult to answer. Casino games for me are the usual casino games.

I'm slowly getting interested to start my own homework too regarding these games.
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I don't mind that technicality but for me, when we say "casino games" these are mostly luck-based.

What you have pointed out are strategy-based games and these are really sports and not "considered" as sports. It does even have its own big competition throughout its history. Billiard, as one of the examples you refer to, is also part of an international sports event.

What casino games are sports in your country?

Since you have already done some research, can you name more casino games that are considered sports?
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