Topic: Casinos games are not made by the casino teams but... (Read 365 times)

The gambling had many team including the coding team which play huge role in the website.Mostly gambling sites keep their developer with them,because they know the extract movement of the gambling site.The gambling company will creat some contract with the coding developer and it exist till the website was survived in the market.Because the developer can bet on the point which give them maximum win,So the friends and relatives of the developers also in the monitor list of the owners.The gambling owner should build the trust among the gamblers,So they get more gamblers to their sites.

I believe ( I have never owned a casino and never managed a casino ) that all casinos have employees who are people who are experienced in coding, so when the casino pays a gambling provider, the casino employees who are responsible for the coding must be able to audit the games that are added to the casino, this ensures that the casinos do not make agreements with game provider companies that manipulate the games, because let's imagine the following case, a person builds an online casino, then makes an agreement with some gambling provider company, then how can that person be assured that the gambling provider is not causing

Anyone in particular exploit some glitches in some games? something like the gambling provider agreeing with someone for that person to go play at the casino where he recently made an agreement with the company, that person would know all the flaws in the game because the provider told him, so that person would always be making money and would share winnings from the gaming provider, because these kinds of things would be possible to happen, so casinos need to have employees capable of auditing the games provided by the gambling providers

casinos would not be naïve to simply take the word of gambling provider companies, at least I say that because if I were a casino owner I would not believe and would not trust 100% in gambling providers, I would have hired capable employees as well to audit everything that was added to the casino that came from other companies, this is the norm of operation of many companies. Of course, game providers also want to have a good reputation in the market and that's why they strive not to get involved in scandals and provide reliable things.

Well, I have seen some threads where there are some players who play and are looking for games that are original from the casinos, which are not given by what some of the game providers always give, but are looking for something different, something that others do not have, So these types of things are what they are looking for, I don't know if they will because they are bored of always looking for the same games and they can't do anything else, but as far as I'm concerned, I think that there is no game where the casinos are original. They are looking for more, when I started in 2017, my favorite platform was freebitco.in, and that was because I saw many opportunities to win and I think that is the only thing that really matters, for example I have always looked for some of the best casinos to play and have the opportunity to obtain bonuses with which you can access more wins, but for that moment I only saw freebitco.in, after I found stake.com and compared it with other casinos, I saw that the other casinos did not have many games with stake.com, but the other games were identical to those on stake.com, which seemed to me more of the same, then I discovered Primedice that it was craps, and it seemed innovative to me, because it was the same but different, so I liked it .

After that time I was only looking for casinos that were good, that I liked and that had good games, aside from not feeling that the casino had much of an advantage because it took very little to make me lose, so this type of thing is what normally one likes good. player was looking for, the casinos that have games are original and many look for them, but when they talk here about the advantage of possible manipulation, well, I can only say something, if it is a famous casino, that has a good reputation, you have to trust that they don't They manipulate to win, the advantage is the same for everything, and if they are original games, they do not Damage their entire reputation just for one game and for wanting to win a little more, that is why it is always recommended to look for almost reliable ones.

The accused is innocent until proven guilty.

Are there examples of evidence when the casino has manipulated the game engines?

When gamblers lose, they begin to look for the culprits of their failures, and here there are casino manipulators and unscrupulous developers of these games. Although the entire gambling industry is set up in such a way that the owners make money on the losses of the players, therefore, it makes sense to have a low RTP. I can’t say whether these indicators are rigidly fixed in games and whether developers, at the request of a particular casino, can give me the RTP indicators. Theoretically, what prevents them from agreeing and doing it. I don't think that the casino will have a separate specialist who will change these values to those that are convenient for the casino, and more likely, this can be done by the gambling developers themselves, say, for a separate surcharge.

They may be distributing the profits in such a way that they split the profits among the accounts that play during that time period. For example, there might be an algorithm that makes you win in the morning and lose in the evening. People are usually interested in gambling and slots in the evening when they have free time, and most people lose because they play at that time. In the morning, we can assume that not many people play, and most people who play at this time may be winning.
The gamblers who figure out how and according to what the algorithms win are the ones who end up winning, but of course it is not so simple to figure it out.
There is a saying in gambling. "The house never loses", meaning that the gambler never loses, and on top of that, he adds money to his bankroll.

Not only on just bad habits but rather the odds or simply the House edge would really be one of the main reason on why you do lose specially on slot gaming. This is why its always better on making yourself that fully wary

on what are the imposed risks on the time that you do play. Alterting out codes and fairness with those casino owners or team cant really be possible on a game which is really of those providers which is really completely separate. We know that there are games which is been solely been created by the team on which this is really a game that could really be altered out by the platform you are dealing with. In overall if you dont like on
experiencing that kind of risks and potential hassles then it would be always be good on sticking into those reputable places. Slot gaming? im not really that expecting that much on winning because its always been
against the gambler or player on which in the end of the day you would really be ending up on empty handed. 

Some are not obvious but some are, and already reported. Many have gone down but unfortunately a few have remained and they can always victimize the newbies who carelessly try new stuffs. You said the problem is in the software provider? So, this should be the one to be blamed alone and not the casino because maybe they don't know about the issue.

Not all are the same but some gamblers are also too cautious. They will carefully check all of the components of the casino before they play. Casino industry is quickly growing and that is the reason why many business-minded people are rushing but I still prefer the original website or the ones who are created from scratch.

Reputation also comes with the games that the casinos are offering to their peers, be it from a third-party provider or their own games. If they can't provide an experience or something that is worth their players' money, plus the games are basically just ripping everyone's wallets off, that casino will surely be on the black list of a lot of people. Their name will be stained with a lot of negative impressions and over time, they will lose money and lose their business with a lot of people.

What’s certain for me is that if the casino really intends to manipulate or cheat through their games, of course they all have the control and access to make it happen. What’s the use of owning their own casino platform if they can’t manipulate their own games? I believe there is nothing to argue with that. Just because of the fact that these games are already made by trusted and reputable providers, then they can’t be rigged if the casino really intends to do it. It’s like your money, your rules, same like it goes with casinos, it’s their own platform so they can manipulate everything that belong to their possession.

I don't understand technically how they set up profits, but you may be right based on personal experience or someone else's experience. To the extent that the algorithms are useful to developers trying to make money, then some gamblers can benefit. Providers only provide the best games possible to attract gamblers to play more often and spend a lot of money there, at least that's the most common way of how providers and casinos make money from gamblers.

Something can be right and something can be wrong. In the end some might say that game providers will never lose, but only gamblers lose in the long term because of their bad habits.

True. Most of these casinos outsource games instead of creating them since it doesn't take much time to do so, and for the most part, it's easier and cheaper than creating your full-fledged game especially if it's something that's complex like slots or poker.

Still, since they outsourced these games, it means that they are given the full capabilities to jack the odds and probabilities, kind of like arcade centers being given the keys to their machines for maintenance purposes. This ensures that not only can they do easy maintenance tasks on their own, but also allow the casino to play with the odds that they like the most. Of course this could be abused by some irreputable casinos out there but you'd never find this in more well-known ones.

I don't know much about it, but my opinion is that no site would put a loss-making game on their site to be played. I guess these games have algorithms that make money for certain people who play at certain times or within certain hours, while continuing to exploit other people. For example, if you enter the site at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, it pays a certain part of the players while the other part loses. We can say that it repeats this for 5-6 hours. In other words, even if the site does not adjust the earnings of the games, we can say that the game developer makes money to people within certain hours.

Most games that are created/developed by the casino usually use provably fair system so it wont be easy to be manipulated because smart gamblers will be able to catch it using the provably fair verifier.


In fact most crypto casinos in this forum started the business with their own original games, it will be long list if I have to mentioned them one by one.
If we are talking about the possible manipulation, provably fair games is better than those games from gaming providers because what you can do with games from 3rd party providers is just to trust them without any chance to verify your bets.
Most important thing is that reputation is not about the casino providing their own game or providing games from trusty providers.

To be honest, I don't have an answer to your question. what we say here is only based on assumptions and speculation, basically only the casino and game developers know whether there has been manipulation or not. however with the house edge setting in place, the casinos get their return. even so, it does not rule out the possibility that there is manipulation carried out by the developer or it could be, as you said, the team and casino members manipulated the game. it's just that, that simply means they have to have access to do the manipulation.

Frankly, I don't know if what I say is true or not. but as far as I know, usually every developer has designed in such a way how this game works, and how the casino benefits from the game. there is less possibility of manipulation, especially if we refer to casinos that have a trusted reputation. now that there are RTP and RNG making things that smell like manipulation by the casino are very unlikely to happen. although in fact, there is no guarantee for sure.

Are you sure about this? Is there any source that confirms this or is it just your suggestions? In my opinion, if a casino has a different RTP in demo games and in games for money, then this is the most stupid because there will always be someone who will collect statistics and everyone will find out about such fraud (one way or another, this is fraud, although not too rude).

As long as the casino knows how to change the codes in the game, the casino can change the codes to have more advantages. And the developer will no longer know if the game code is changed because the casino will not report it to the developer. This can be difficult to track unless someone can log into the game to check the codes and find anything odd or suspicious about the game.

Everything can still happen, especially if the developers want to cheat the casino. But the developers must have considered it and would not commit such fraud because it could affect their reputation. Moreover, if the developer has made many games that many casinos use, the developer will not want to do this cheating.

I don't think that a software developer has any access to a game that they've sold to a casino, they might have some kind of agreement but since they get paid to give the source code of the game, they just do that and the game wouldn't be in their control at all. So if a game belongs to a certain developer being used by a casino and the casino is manipulating the results of that game, it is the casino that is doing it and not the game developer since they are not given access to the system.

However, there are casinos that develop their own original games just like Stake.com which has a bunch of original games that are developed by their own developers and aren't bought games from other developers. If a casino wants to do any manipulation, they can always do it in their own games.

The thing is you can't prove if the game is rigged or not.

When you suffer a lot of lose streaks, people will say it's possible and it's all about luck.

Any gambling provider will not show their source code because it will make other people can easily copy it and create their own gambling provider. Usually there's an independent casino consultant site that will report a rigged games, but you're still need to trust their words as you're not completely know the source code.

Yes, that's right, if every game is created by casinos then only big companies can launch online casinos, a casino will have to spend thousands of dollars on every game and they will have to hire a set of coders and developers and they will have to maintain these developers, so it's safe and cost-effective if they just a license from game providers, these game providers make it easy for casino to maintain their platform, all they have to do is to monitors their players, their games and their funds.

Both the game providers and casino owners should not cheat or manipulate or they will both lose their reputation and possibly their clients.

If you thought a little, you would understand that in order for someone to win in gambling, someone needs to lose, because. gambling is a zero-sum game. Moreover, there should be more losers than winners, otherwise it makes no sense for casino owners to work in this area, because. they will suffer losses. By understanding this simple truth, you can look at gambling, winning, losing, and the emotions of gambling in a completely different way.