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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

For me I trust that the providers use their own servers and they link them to the casino where they set the house edge from what the casino asks them to be.Some of these providers offers adjustable RTP meaning is not a fixed house edge but a volatile one and it depends then from the casino which RTP they throw in in their site.This is what the casino can manipulate and for this we have no control over,we only play in trusted and reputable casinos who most likely they don't need to change the RTP as they are huge and they make profit also with lower RTP-s.

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Casino owner or verified developers who ever is responsible for the game development does not guarantee how transparent the game will appear to be, when a Casino sign a contract with a game developer, the necessary tools for integration and they can also have the access to make what ever changes they want, the game design is that of the developers which they have paid for, why the Casino belongs to different individuals so they will design how they want things to be.

It's left with the casino owner to either be fair enough and leave things the way it was initially developed or they manipulate it to be in their favour, which I believe they will definitely do as their main objective for running a casino is to make profit. Casinos are designed to be in favour of the owners and not that of the gamblers.

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Any game that is manipulated by will be done by the casino and the software dev because it is impossible for casino to operate without their software dev,in case there is an urgent maintenance of the software. A casino with good reputation wouldn't think of cheating their customers because they are making profit already for the customers that are losing. We all know that a gambler loss more than he wins to the casino. It is only a scam casino that wouldn't be provably fair with their customers because they don't plan to run for long term.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

forget about manipulation mate because that does not exist in respected and legit casino because their players will surely sue them and will bring them to losing trust.
that only happens in scam casinos and in which they only focus in short period of operation.
because if you are a long generating casino why ruin your site with this kinda move?
yeah this maybe from game provider but being a casino owner you will never let this to happen commonly .

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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

One person don't build a company I believe, it's always a group of people and when it comes to casino, they make sure that the person that design and build their game is part of the company because they don't just build and start running the casino, they upgrade and continue to upgrade and also patch up when there is complaints from players and bettors, having a developer been part of the team is more secure and efficient than having someone from outside to do a casino games.

I'm not sure about your source but I haven't seen a company who give a part time job of Casino to an outsider, it's always within them because that is risky thing to do, they can give room for bug and later penetrate into the platform and later play to manipulate winnings but when a software engineer is part of the team, they will likely not comparised their own company because the fall of the company marks the fall of their own business they invest in and most often than not, software engineers are founders of casinos.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

I don't think there would be some manipulation going on after they got it from the software developer, because everything that's programmed in there were intact just like how they do business with the other casinos. If I were to be a software developer I don't want my brand to be known as a fraud due to an unfair games that I have developed. Therefore, I don't think the developers are to be responsible with casino manipulations or fraud, because the developers gets nothing in return if they do it, not unless if they're paid to deliberately design their game in favor with the certain casino most of the time, but then again it is the casino that wanted it and initiated it in the first place. So, everything will be the casino's responsibility.

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You think you’ve cracked the code? Most reputable online casinos outsource their games from seasoned developers! It's Business 101. Why? Because casinos focus on making money, not building games

Now, about your question on game manipulation. Isn’t it obvious? Yes, the developers primarily handle the game mechanics. But let me spell it out for you: if a casino wanted to cheat, they’d be doing it in cahoots with the developers or by tampering with the integration of the game. These casinos aren't run by choirboys

And for your last point: people are ignorant. Games in online casinos largely come from software providers. It's high time folks like you educated themselves instead of peddling misinformation. So, do your homework before you try to be the wise guy in the room

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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

Yes. The games offered on casino platforms are often provided by third-party software providers rather than being developed by the casinos themselves. However, it depends on which games we are talking about. Many casino platforms also offer so-called "In-house" games, which are developed by their own development teams.

Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Just because a game was developed by someone else doesn't mean it can't be manipulated by the casino platform. It's all just software code, after all, right? Besides, there have been proven cases of casino platforms using pirated versions of games from well-known providers.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

If there's cases that casino games are being manipulated for sure they will get busted by their player and they will not stay on industry for more longer times.

The software provider is liable to any manipulation so if there's some issue like this exist then it should be blame to the provider and to casino owners since both of them knows what's happening to the system they offer to their gamblers.

Also people actually don't care much about who own things since many are aware that most of online casino use third party softwares to launched their business more faster than generating their own games.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 21, 2023, 02:57:11 AM

I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

On one casino site there are quite a lot of types of bets and registered games that are offered to all gamblers and of the many choices of games or bets available, almost the majority are games made by the provider so when a problem occurs we might blame the casino but actually it's not the casino's fault and the team will also fix the game together with the provider used.
After all, well-known casinos will not carry out acts of manipulation because honestly and fairly they can get a lot of profit because well-known casinos already have very large customers, providers also provide profit money to casinos so why do we still think that well-known casinos do manipulation.
Actually there are games that are original to the casino, but there are only a few choices, not many, and even then I think they are better than the games provided by the provider.

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We will never know whether the games created by casinos are easy to manipulate, but for some games, we can verify whether the casino is cheating or honest. The developer is not responsible for the manipulation carried out by the casino because it is beyond the developer's responsibility, especially if the game is added to a particular casino. But the developer can take precautions by warning the casino not to cheat or the casino can terminate their cooperation.

And if the games are from a software provider, they shouldn't be cheating their clients because this is about the software provider's reputation. If the software provider cheats, they will not be able to grow their business any bigger because many casinos already know they are going to cheat their clients. And the casino also won't want to use the software from that provider because it's equivalent to damaging the casino's reputation.

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I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

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