Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 23. (Read 12686 times)

You seems to be making this thing so easy while there can be many possible cases that may happen with our ID. What they can do with our ID? Maybe you need to find some news about it. Here in my country, people can easily get an online loan just by photo of our ID. Lets say a casino where we play is compromised and all data is stolen. Then the hacker use my ID to get an online loan, who do you think that will be in charge to repay the loan? It is me who will be asked to repay the loan, the debt collector know my address and may come to my house and my neighbors may hear about it then it can be something bad for me although I'm not the one who take the loan. It is not imaginary example but it is real story in my city where some people become a victim of this stolen ID card. It is not just about our data, but our data can be used for criminal actions and we can be victim of it. Of course it is your right if you dont care about such possible thing but you also need to appreciate others who have different point of view.

Its a pity now that many sites and accepts the use of any means to verify the identity of their users without making the confirmation if the documents present are real or fake, we have known this over time now that hackers can do anything to achieve all these as long as they are determined to attack, it time the gambling platforms also have to device some means of knowing the real and genuine means if identification they received.

It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.

If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

As long as I am not a criminal, I do my KYC and it has ever been fine to date. Come to think of it, in this present day, you can't function a bank account without completing the KYC, so how many people are now the victims of such KYC completion and because of it will stop using their bank, or will still not complete another KYC upon opening another bank account? We should all pray that we are not victims of organized crimes, but if anyone is, whether you do KYC or not, your information will be revealed and the perpetrators will strike.

The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.

If you can't rely on and trust then there is no reason to share your KYC. But I doubt there is doubt there is a good number of casinos that don't require KYC documents. I am aware of the leakage of KYC documents but I do not think it will affect us too much as our documents can be leaked in various ways out of gambling sites.

This is now left on us to make research well enough on choosing a gambling casino, we cannot just see any and accept using them like that when we already have one which we have been using for long and are satisfying, except for the reason whereby we are sure about the developers to be reliable and already have this same consistent service provision from their past projects, or we rather receive a recommendation from those using them already.

You cant really blame out those people not to have that kind of trust on submitting out their personal identifications on which we know that once these information been leaked out then we do already have
the idea on where these information might really be ending up into. Also, the main reason on why crypto market had become that popular or known is that because of that anonymous thing that we are
really that liking into but since everything is subject to change specially with these centralized platforms then they are really that prone to regulation on which it would be normal that they will really be
having these kind of words into their minds and even to myself would really be having that kind of hesitation.

We can not deny the fact that everyone of us knows that there are a lot of gambling sites who is doing like that, in Their announcement they said that they will not ask for any KYC but in the end of the game and we gonna withdraw our balance then they will refer us to a KYC in order to withdraw and that is a bad idea for sure.. but still there are some casino who's doing this but they are legitimate which we can say that it's part of their strategy's .

The exact thing with that is we should never get afraid of KYC if we know the platform we are submitting our data is long time running casino which reputation has already been proven for so many years for this we can guarantee our safety.

But if we talk about those new casino then ask a KYC by earliest of our registration or late which other casino do upon requesting a huge withdrawal then we should start to doubt or worry about their request since we don't know how good their security for keeping our private details since if this was been compromised then for sure that we are in big trouble for that.

Email is there , as long as we have access in our email account then you will
surely be updated in all the changes in gambling sites nut that will change if the
casino is scam that they will change without letting their players ready.
and also those casino that supposed to not asking KYC but when you need
to withdraw they will put you in spot kyc then that is another story.,

Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

Not all casinos that asks you for the first time of withdrawal to KYC are not scams. There are incidents that they're protecting their platform from money laundering even if it's just for a few dollars. I think that the justification here is when users deposits and then did nothing on their platform but suddenly tries to withdraw even for just a few dollars. Then, that gambler is subject to comply for any documentation that they're going to ask. It sounds crazy, right? But that can be one of the many reasons why they're asking kyc to any user that they think is violating the usage and capacity of their casino. There are many instances that they will ask it out of nowhere regardless of the amount you withdraw but that's their right. We can't do anything when they try to ask a user to kyc upon withdrawal and the approval of that withdrawal is subject on how's the user going to respond with their demand of kyc and verification documents. We don't like that but it can happen to anyone but I am glad that with few and small amounts, I'm not asked with that in stake.

OK, I think I perfectly understand you, and actually, when it comes to the issue of kyc, it's been a very hot topic and one that I don't see fading any time soon,  it's always our choice to choose whether to comply or not to comply, and since it's always an individual decisions, it is perfectly OK for us to respect each other's decision.

There are people who don't mind giving their private documents to any platform for their account verification, possibly because they count it as nothing, while there are others who possibly have their life tied to their private documents and won't let it out to any platform even if it's gonna cost them a million dollar loss, this is one of those things that actually makes us all different, and that difference we must respect.

Speaking of exchanges and casinos, some people may want to argue that are actually no much difference, a casino costing less to build than a crypto exchange have nothing to when it comes to reputation and trust, for it is still possible for a casino that cost less to build to be more trusted in keeping their users private information safe, than an exchange that cost billions of dollars to build, it all depends on the type people running the both platforms, respectively speaking.

That is very true, in fact people who have nothing to do with putting things on the internet nor do they have social networks always get some of their information, this is something that can generate a lot of controversy, even so things are Delicate and given this it makes days I read a post on Instagram that showed a site where all the data appeared on the web and Where it Was Registered , but the truth was it Was very late and I Didn't check it, now the truth is I can't find that Post , but it was on a Page that It's Called qpasag ,  it was something like that.

What you do in casinos to avoid Tracking , in some way it is something that is usually safe, of course it is not something special or a practice that I see as safe, but if it works for you it is very good, the truth is in other networks I do not I have my Information, Usually they are Avatars or things that do not make sense with my data, but the documentation that one has in the air is Somehow filtered either from the database , Cloud or among Other Things, it is Difficult to Maintain Anonymous.

It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

Sometimes, because it has Happened to me, I have opted for the local team and I know that they have a tough rival, I am talking about a team like Flamengo from Brazil , Palmeiras , Santos, and it just so happens that in one of those the team went to train at the University where I was studying, that is something that I really liked, at that time my team which was Táchira did a great job and I won, but I didn't win much because I was scared and didn't I bet with everything, so I was happy but half happy, I would have been Happier if I had bet as I was, so sometimes these types of things happen either by luck or for Something and we still win and we are bad, so sometimes one must know choose what our life can be like as a player, sometimes being conservative we can secure some Money , but we are not Satisfied either , while it remains as it is, and we lose, it will remain in our mind that we did Things well and that that is sufficient.

Any sudden changes is always been that shady as f*ck and this is something that should be contested out but of course if you cant be able to provide some proofs in regarding about those changes then it would really be pointless for you to have those kind of fights that they've been manipulating things just for scamming out those users. Its true that it wont really be that too easy on trying to detect things as early as we could be
seeing some red flags on initial engagement would really be giving out some hints that you should really be starting on avoiding it out or pulling up your funds.

Just like on other suggestions that you would really be able to avoid all the hassles if you do really just make yourself that keeping on sticking into those reputable platforms
on which the community had already made out their own experiences on which sticking into those good ones will really be better than into test
some new sites that you dont even know that they are legit or really that running some serious business or just tending to scam out people.

To be honest, that part about your casino saying that these rules will be subject to change, that part is for me manipulation and something that is really unpleasant, because that play on words makes everything read above useless, so I am one of the What do you think. that when a casino changes one of its Tos then they have to notify it and make it public so that all the Tos have to be read again and accept it, for me that is the duty, I consider that if the casino does not do so it is a measure of use by the casino, in fact a casino that establishes rules and says that they are subject to change, I am one of those who will leave that casino, as there are many casinos, they have a lot of competition, that is why the old casinos They keep recruiting the new ones.

It is also very necessary that a casino currently has to put in their presentation that before doing anything, they must do registration and KYC verification, just like trading brokers do, otherwise they will say or warn that they will not be able to make money withdrawals, I believe that if the recipients are this sincere, they will never have problems.