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But what I would not like is for a casino to be asking for additional documents after successfully verifying all the needed KYC details and documents. That disgusts me if I must say.

It's better to complete your kyc on a casino before you deposit your money so the casino doesn't have any reason to freeze your account. Casinos asking for additional verification is done when they notice something different on your account. Maybe you requested a large sum of withdrawal and it caught their attention. They're not trying to scam you when they request for the additional verification but just doing their job to avoid hacks or money laundering therefore we don't have to be angry at them but just do what they want. Unless you're dealing with a scam casino this is when you should be bothered about the additional verification that they're requesting because they're only doing that to keep your money with them without allowing you to withdraw them. Scam casino use this additional verification as excuse to scam gamblers.
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It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

That is very true, in fact people who have nothing to do with putting things on the internet nor do they have social networks always get some of their information, this is something that can generate a lot of controversy, even so things are Delicate and given this it makes days I read a post on Instagram that showed a site where all the data appeared on the web and Where it Was Registered , but the truth was it Was very late and I Didn't check it, now the truth is I can't find that Post , but it was on a Page that It's Called qpasag ,  it was something like that.

What you do in casinos to avoid Tracking , in some way it is something that is usually safe, of course it is not something special or a practice that I see as safe, but if it works for you it is very good, the truth is in other networks I do not I have my Information, Usually they are Avatars or things that do not make sense with my data, but the documentation that one has in the air is Somehow filtered either from the database , Cloud or among Other Things, it is Difficult to Maintain Anonymous.
Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

Yes, things are exactly like that, what happens is that we leave our data like this on these platforms because we have to be a little more careful, the truth is that every time I have to give my KYC I think about it a lot. I have seen many cases where for a simple KYC they come and kill People who have crypto, especially bitcoin, so this type of thing is what one tries to alert, when we give our data in some way, yes, we are exposing ourselves in some way I know that nothing is safe, for That's why I always recommend that KYC Always be given in the most famous, reliable and Reputable Casinos.

Each person has their own way of thinking, but I have seen Cases of people who do Absolutely no harm to others , and who suddenly arrive and are assaulted and murdered, and many times it is because they leave their data on the web, so in one casino, a data breach is something very delicate, and that is often the fear that it gives many people.
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And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.
Before casinos were not asking for KYC at the registration process when joining the casino and when you win big and about to withdraw then they would come up and asked for KYC to withdraw the funds. But recently and probably because of the complains here and there newly launched casinos ask KYC at the beginning of the registration and in the withdrawal time there is no KYC again but only if there is any other documents that you have not submitted before. And I like this latest development because the stress and the anxiety to withdraw the money at the winning time as been reduced. Because when you want to withdraw the funds and KYC is asked, there is tension at that time.
I must say that I like this development but this can't be entirely still. It could be merely a twist by a few of them whether people complained or not. The flexibility of allowing their customer to pend their KYC completion by choice is still a very good one in my opinion, only that people are taking it too far against the casinos which are supposed not to be. If a casino is not advertising a no-KYC, I see no reason why we should not get prepared for its completion now or later, and when we did not do it for a long duration of time despite giving us such a huge grace and the casinos now ask for it, we should not take any offence whatsoever because it is the right thing they do whether it is for our high winning or withdrawal reasons.

For me, I do not see any difference in this latest development because I always go from the KYC casino and complete my KYC immediately even before depositing my money. Is that not better? You can see that for someone like me, the development is still the same, only that people are always carried away and want to just be dealing with companies without doing the needful. But what I would not like is for a casino to be asking for additional documents after successfully verifying all the needed KYC details and documents. That disgusts me if I must say.
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And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.
Before casinos were not asking for KYC at the registration process when joining the casino and when you win big and about to withdraw then they would come up and asked for KYC to withdraw the funds. But recently and probably because of the complains here and there newly launched casinos ask KYC at the beginning of the registration and in the withdrawal time there is no KYC again but only if there is any other documents that you have not submitted before. And I like this latest development because the stress and the anxiety to withdraw the money at the winning time as been reduced. Because when you want to withdraw the funds and KYC is asked, there is tension at that time.
You are right, there is always a high tension in the body of a gambler when ever he or she wins a large sum of money, for most, it's always kind of hard to believe until they withdraw the money and see it land on their private wallet, so, at such a time, if the gambler is trying to withdraw but his or her withdrawal request was held down, and he or she is asked to pass kyc verification before the withdrawal will be processed, the process always appears more difficult and time consuming due to several factors, and the high tension of the gambler to see the money won land on his or her personal wallet is one of those factors.

I have always said that it's better to complete kyc verification at the time of registration, as at this time, the gambler is likely to calm him or herself down, follow all the kyc verification procedures exactly as they are outlined, by this, the chances of errors are greatly reduced. And the chances of the gambler getting his account verified even in the first trial is always higher.

But unfortunately, some casinos are actually still practicing the old fashion way of requesting kyc verification from their users,, which is to do so when the player wins a good amount of money and wants to withdraw, this I believe they do in a bid not to scare potential customers off, because believe it or not, there are some gamblers that will just abandon the casino as soon as they are asked to verify their account upon successfully account registration.
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And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.
Before casinos were not asking for KYC at the registration process when joining the casino and when you win big and about to withdraw then they would come up and asked for KYC to withdraw the funds. But recently and probably because of the complains here and there newly launched casinos ask KYC at the beginning of the registration and in the withdrawal time there is no KYC again but only if there is any other documents that you have not submitted before. And I like this latest development because the stress and the anxiety to withdraw the money at the winning time as been reduced. Because when you want to withdraw the funds and KYC is asked, there is tension at that time.
One of the most important or a must thing to be done before making any deposits in a gambling site is that you should really making up some research first for any issues and complaints or unresolved problems
that they do have, whether they are really imposing sudden KYC or not because it would really be impossible that there would really be no people who would really be making out such complaints
whenever they do experience such stuff on which we know that this is something that wont really be able to give out that kind of feedbacks.

This is why it would be better that you should really be making out some research first. Find for some issues and complaints and if you arent that satisfied then you could
really make out some questioning into the community specially into this forum whether you are dealing with a good site or not.
It all matters about on the effort that you are really that putting into.
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And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.
Before casinos were not asking for KYC at the registration process when joining the casino and when you win big and about to withdraw then they would come up and asked for KYC to withdraw the funds. But recently and probably because of the complains here and there newly launched casinos ask KYC at the beginning of the registration and in the withdrawal time there is no KYC again but only if there is any other documents that you have not submitted before. And I like this latest development because the stress and the anxiety to withdraw the money at the winning time as been reduced. Because when you want to withdraw the funds and KYC is asked, there is tension at that time.
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I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

You should say that it depends on the casino asking this since if the reputable casino will ask this KYC requirement to their user since there are sudden changes happen that they can't avoid to happen then its good for user to comply with the requirements done since for sure that there's nothing gonna happen to them.

But if the casino which ask this requirement is unknown to us or they just newly launch their service here and immediately required a KYC requirement before they can access all the features they then maybe this might be different to take since for sure that we will doubt on their reliability. But they are way more better than those casino who said that they would never ask a KYC to people who would try to gamble in their casino but when requesting something especially a withdrawal they would ask this and leave people no choice but to do that is more shady casino to choose.

It is difficult to do an analysis when they are relatively new casinos and trust them, KYC in casinos is something very delicate, I don't do it all at once, in fact every new casino always asks for new things, like identification, phone number and some more information, but only for registration, at the time of withdrawal the requirements are different, so these types of things are what we must think carefully about if we get into this, because depositing money implies that we have previously read After all, we have analyzed it and then accepted those conditions for the time being, I have learned a lot because the cases are new, it is best to wait for reviews from the people who are more experts in this field.

I will always use the casinos that have the best reputation and highest trust index, this is because I have had unpleasant experiences in other casinos.
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I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.
KYC nowadays is never been an issue but the topic here says about the casino pretending to be not asking but after withdrawal they will ask you for it and that comes the fooling in which we have seen multiple times that those BS casino is doing though i believe that their popularity starts losing and yeah this forum is the instrument for them to face defeat from their own foolishnes.
Yes people don't see KYC as a big and serious issue now.  So it's not a big problem. but a major problem for gamblers is that they cannot control themselves due to which they gamble for long periods of time due to which they become deeply addicted to gambling. And such activities hurt them a lot. so for gambling one should develop oneself as a conscious gambler without blaming the gambling sites for anything.
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And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.
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I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.
KYC nowadays is never been an issue but the topic here says about the casino pretending to be not asking but after withdrawal they will ask you for it and that comes the fooling in which we have seen multiple times that those BS casino is doing though i believe that their popularity starts losing and yeah this forum is the instrument for them to face defeat from their own foolishnes.

oh, I see. Of course, everything should be done wisely.

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

You should say that it depends on the casino asking this since if the reputable casino will ask this KYC requirement to their user since there are sudden changes happen that they can't avoid to happen then its good for user to comply with the requirements done since for sure that there's nothing gonna happen to them.

But if the casino which ask this requirement is unknown to us or they just newly launch their service here and immediately required a KYC requirement before they can access all the features they then maybe this might be different to take since for sure that we will doubt on their reliability. But they are way more better than those casino who said that they would never ask a KYC to people who would try to gamble in their casino but when requesting something especially a withdrawal they would ask this and leave people no choice but to do that is more shady casino to choose.

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.
If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

That's right, if we are going to pass KYC to a casino, it should be a sure-reputable casino in this field of crypto space. Do not pass kyc to a casino that is new or less than 1 year in this industry. Especially if the established community in the industry like the one we live in is small.

Maybe because of that, our personal identifications will only be used for bad purposes in this field, actually. Maybe you don't know about the people who are wanted in other countries.

yes you are right it really depends on the casino. But it seems to me that use KYC is usually conditioned by compliance with certain legal norms (these legal norms can be dictated either by the license or by the country where these casinos operate). So this isn't just their wish, but a necessary requirement. Otherwise, it would be strange that new casinos cannot check their players until they gain a rating and trust.

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What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.
If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

That's right, if we are going to pass KYC to a casino, it should be a sure-reputable casino in this field of crypto space. Do not pass kyc to a casino that is new or less than 1 year in this industry. Especially if the established community in the industry like the one we live in is small.

Maybe because of that, our personal identifications will only be used for bad purposes in this field, actually. Maybe you don't know about the people who are wanted in other countries.
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I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

You should say that it depends on the casino asking this since if the reputable casino will ask this KYC requirement to their user since there are sudden changes happen that they can't avoid to happen then its good for user to comply with the requirements done since for sure that there's nothing gonna happen to them.

But if the casino which ask this requirement is unknown to us or they just newly launch their service here and immediately required a KYC requirement before they can access all the features they then maybe this might be different to take since for sure that we will doubt on their reliability. But they are way more better than those casino who said that they would never ask a KYC to people who would try to gamble in their casino but when requesting something especially a withdrawal they would ask this and leave people no choice but to do that is more shady casino to choose.
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I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.
KYC nowadays is never been an issue but the topic here says about the casino pretending to be not asking but after withdrawal they will ask you for it and that comes the fooling in which we have seen multiple times that those BS casino is doing though i believe that their popularity starts losing and yeah this forum is the instrument for them to face defeat from their own foolishnes.
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I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.
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The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.

Data leakage is the main reason why you can be the target of a criminal, to arrive at your house with total security that you use crypto and they have it taken away from you anyway, a long time ago I saw how in Russia a person published something I don't remember what it was, what I know is what they did to him because they saw that he had his bitcoin address and when they saw he had considerable money, what did the criminals do? They arrived at his house, they made him break into his computer and transfer those bitcoins to a new wallet, because they arrived and pointed a gun at his head, what did they do? They stole it and the criminals left as if nothing had happened, but why did this happen? Because of the data leak, there are many people who are dedicated to these things, they are capable of doing anything for money, and if this happened in Russia, it means that it can happen anywhere in the world.
I pray we are not a victim of data leak violence, the data leak is bad and it could lead to anything. Nevertheless, completing our KYC is not an automatic way to leak our data, which was my main point in that post. Fine, data can be leaked through the self-serving activities of some unscrupulous employees, regardless, it is not always rampant and the direct threat to the victim of the data leak is not always huge if the person is wise enough not to disclose his further information upon contacting him on the telephone or online, and by not clicking unsolicited emails and links and sharing of codes. I have never heard that a data leak through the KYC of a reputable company has caused physical contact and an attack on the person, and even if it is happening, the case is so little to the point it is not always known.

This is the same as having a bank account, we have a lot of people's details with banks and many of these people are high-net-worth individuals and big companies owners. Most of these guys are regular guys we see daily, but still, they are not always being attacked or harassed because they do KYC with their bank and also for the fact that they live an expensive life. This is even as bank employees could also compromise but yet, they are not being harassed due to such.

What you explained is the case of a lousy person attracting everyone to himself on social media, including criminals. This has nothing to do with any company or the KYC completion, so what do you expect? Anything can happen to such a person, even the most worthless criminals may do the operation of locating him or his house and perpetrate the evil easily. What am I trying to establish? The data leaks are minimal and so are their threats compared to how some people take it, and data could be leaked even with the government-secured facilities. Even without KYC, one can be a victim of an organised crime, we should only pray we are not the victim of such a calculated crime.
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What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.
If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.
As i said - some time ago i had find ID card of my friend , who don`t use internet, even mobile on darknet market. His data has only federal services.


What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.
It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.
I understand it. But i`m sure that there is the huge quantity of personal data on each of us right now. And it doesn`t depends on KYC. Banks, big companies, mobile operators - they all lose data. It doesn`t means that we must share our data with everybody, but we mustn`t afraid KYC.


What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

You seems to be making this thing so easy while there can be many possible cases that may happen with our ID. What they can do with our ID? Maybe you need to find some news about it. Here in my country, people can easily get an online loan just by photo of our ID. Lets say a casino where we play is compromised and all data is stolen. Then the hacker use my ID to get an online loan, who do you think that will be in charge to repay the loan? It is me who will be asked to repay the loan, the debt collector know my address and may come to my house and my neighbors may hear about it then it can be something bad for me although I'm not the one who take the loan. It is not imaginary example but it is real story in my city where some people become a victim of this stolen ID card. It is not just about our data, but our data can be used for criminal actions and we can be victim of it. Of course it is your right if you dont care about such possible thing but you also need to appreciate others who have different point of view.
I know about such situations and know about the result of them. The banks closed credits when they proved that they didn`t get money.
I understand the other point of view, but here the main part is afraid of KYC, so may be i cry to loud, but in other way no one hear me.
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The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.

Data leakage is the main reason why you can be the target of a criminal, to arrive at your house with total security that you use crypto and they have it taken away from you anyway, a long time ago I saw how in Russia a person published something I don't remember what it was, what I know is what they did to him because they saw that he had his bitcoin address and when they saw he had considerable money, what did the criminals do? They arrived at his house, they made him break into his computer and transfer those bitcoins to a new wallet, because they arrived and pointed a gun at his head, what did they do? They stole it and the criminals left as if nothing had happened, but why did this happen? Because of the data leak, there are many people who are dedicated to these things, they are capable of doing anything for money, and if this happened in Russia, it means that it can happen anywhere in the world.
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Automatically this should be done by gamblers since for choosing this reputable casinos will not give them them a problem. But I'm still fine with other new casino want to compete in the market as long as they are open or transparent on saying that they might require a KYC in future and they have legal license to operate since that justify all there. What really been so shady there is if those new casino will say that they don't require KYC but when they read their TOS it say something that there's something that might trigger for a user to submit this requirement then they are totally doing some misleading act to their clients at start so that how they became shady.

You'll see a lot of that in the market, what they are promoting is different from the actual. They are desperate enough so they would just lie and then uses the TOS to freeze the funds of the winning gamblers. If we are okay with not having a KYC, then we should not think of winning big as that usually could trigger the KYC. Some of us can't pass on KYC for some reasons, but we have to be aware that this KYC thing has existed already the moment a casino acquires a license.

We can't complain by saying, they didn't ask for KYC before, why now? They own the casino, they have the rules that we gamblers agree to follow, so it's up to them when they'll implement that rules. They will only look bad if they implement a rules that is not on the TOS, or not based on standards in the industry.
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Activity: 1022
Merit: 363
What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.
It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.
To avoid such panic always use a reputable casino site that can be trusted without doubt that they will not sell the kyc documents on the black market. Although all sites promise to encrypt kyc documents but how can we trust a new site and do kyc there. for this reason it is a good idea to at least use old and reputable sites for gambling. And since gambling is a very risky thing, always be a responsible gambler.

Automatically this should be done by gamblers since for choosing this reputable casinos will not give them them a problem. But I'm still fine with other new casino want to compete in the market as long as they are open or transparent on saying that they might require a KYC in future and they have legal license to operate since that justify all there. What really been so shady there is if those new casino will say that they don't require KYC but when they read their TOS it say something that there's something that might trigger for a user to submit this requirement then they are totally doing some misleading act to their clients at start so that how they became shady.
sr. member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 420
What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.
It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.
To avoid such panic always use a reputable casino site that can be trusted without doubt that they will not sell the kyc documents on the black market. Although all sites promise to encrypt kyc documents but how can we trust a new site and do kyc there. for this reason it is a good idea to at least use old and reputable sites for gambling. And since gambling is a very risky thing, always be a responsible gambler.
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