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Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 16. (Read 2347597 times)

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If I release a faster kernel the closed source miners will use a couple of days, steal my hard work and put a 1% fee on top of it.. Bad for business. But on the other hand, if nothing is done about the speed, gpu mining for small gpu miners in many of the well known algos could be history.

hm, is it possible to hide the code somehow, like obfuscating or something like this?
but the situation is really looking like a pat to me - if there would be no development for sp's miners, that means it will loose advantage in a speed race and less users will use it, it will loose its user's base.
if you will improve the core, you may loose your work, it could be used in other projects.. but users would download your miner cause it receives speed updates first hand.
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legendary
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I noticed that none of the commercial, closed source CCminer clones came out with an x16rv2 version until after you modded your SuprMiner source with it.       --scryptr

Almost nobody does any free opensource optimizations anymore.
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legendary
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T-Rex has the algo optimised maximum that is why no private miners or no new faster miners for X25X.
t-rex is not optimized to the maximum.
why not make a faster one to prove?

If I release a faster kernel the closed source miners will use a couple of days, steal my hard work and put a 1% fee on top of it.. Bad for business. But on the other hand, if nothing is done about the speed, gpu mining for small gpu miners in many of the well known algos could be history.
legendary
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How about lyra2v3?

Also you're missing a few things in Makefile.am: sph/tiger.c and compute 7.
legendary
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There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

The difficulty went from 320 to 100 after the hardfork. Raven is profitable on the GPU again...

FPGAs are already mining x16rv2, and porofitability on gpu is down the drain.
It was profitable for a few hours only, just after the fork.

Not only that their bitstream is private, so FPGA advantage is only for big farms and no else = even worst then asic centralization
jr. member
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T-Rex has the algo optimised maximum that is why no private miners or no new faster miners for X25X.

t-rex is not optimized to the maximum.
why not make a faster one to prove?
jr. member
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There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

The difficulty went from 320 to 100 after the hardfork. Raven is profitable on the GPU again...

FPGAs are already mining x16rv2, and porofitability on gpu is down the drain.
It was profitable for a few hours only, just after the fork.

"Down the drain" is a little drastic don't you think? It's just +/- 10% less profitable than XZC

in my opinion, when the ROI of hardware is years, it can be called "down the drain".
there have been a lot of periods, which lasted months, when profit of gpu mining was 2x or 3x, not a few percent like it is now.

I actually misread your post. I thought you meant rvn profitability down the drain; however you were discussing GPU mining in general  Smiley
legendary
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There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

The difficulty went from 320 to 100 after the hardfork. Raven is profitable on the GPU again...

FPGAs are already mining x16rv2, and porofitability on gpu is down the drain.
It was profitable for a few hours only, just after the fork.

"Down the drain" is a little drastic don't you think? It's just +/- 10% less profitable than XZC

in my opinion, when the ROI of hardware is years, it can be called "down the drain".
there have been a lot of periods, which lasted months, when profit of gpu mining was 2x or 3x, not a few percent like it is now.
jr. member
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There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

The difficulty went from 320 to 100 after the hardfork. Raven is profitable on the GPU again...

FPGAs are already mining x16rv2, and porofitability on gpu is down the drain.
It was profitable for a few hours only, just after the fork.

"Down the drain" is a little drastic don't you think? It's just +/- 10% less profitable than XZC
legendary
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Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

The difficulty went from 320 to 100 after the hardfork. Raven is profitable on the GPU again...

FPGAs are already mining x16rv2, and porofitability on gpu is down the drain.
It was profitable for a few hours only, just after the fork.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
T-Rex has the algo optimised maximum that is why no private miners or no new faster miners for X25X.

t-rex is not optimized to the maximum.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

The difficulty went from 320 to 100 after the hardfork. Raven is profitable on the GPU again...
It also made a message to the Asic devs. Ravencoin is ready to hardfork again at a later stage...

jr. member
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Lux is preparing their own flavor of RandomX called RX2. It is said it will favor both gpus and cpus equally.
Miner for RX2 would be needed too...
legendary
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The difference between x16rv2 and x16r is just tiger, which is a pretty basic algorithm, already available as opensource cuda code on my m7 miner years ago, and as commercial miner used in software supporting my x22i and x25x.
legendary
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Beam can be mined with 3gb cards. gminer.  (windows 7,8.1 or linux)
Grin29 can be mined with 4/6gb cards. gminer (windows 7,8.1 or linux)
for 2gb cards monero  / randomx?

RANDOMX IS A GOOD QUESTION--

I was just looking at SChernykh's github.  He has coded both CUDA and OpenCL versions for benchmarking RandomX on GPUs.  I compiled and ran the CUDA version on my 1070ti (8GB) rig, and got about 669H/s RandomX per single 1070ti.  I'll try on my 750ti (2GB) rig in a little while.  Both are Linux rigs.

Maybe you could plug the RandomX algo into SuprMiner.  I noticed that none of the commercial, closed source CCminer clones came out with an x16rv2 version until after you modded your SuprMiner source with it.       --scryptr
jr. member
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Beam can be mined with 3gb cards. gminer.  (windows 7,8.1 or linux)
Grin29 can be mined with 4/6gb cards. gminer (windows 7,8.1 or linux)
for 2gb cards monero  / randomx?
Cool thanks for the tip but what about the windows 10 users?
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legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Beam can be mined with 3gb cards. gminer.  (windows 7,8.1 or linux)
Grin29 can be mined with 4/6gb cards. gminer (windows 7,8.1 or linux)
for 2gb cards monero  / randomx?
jr. member
Activity: 189
Merit: 2
T-Rex has the algo optimised maximum that is why no private miners or no new faster miners for ....

T-Rex is slow and not profitable. Bether to mine Beamv2 or Grin.
What about people with 1050tis, 1060 3gbs actually nvidia cards less than 8gbs. What should we mine, which algo and which miner?
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legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
T-Rex has the algo optimised maximum that is why no private miners or no new faster miners for ....

T-Rex is slow and not profitable. Bether to mine Beamv2 or Grin.
legendary
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If you don't produce a source it usually means you're starting the rumour.

iBeLink in California is the ASIC provider. Is the source good enough Wink

If iBeLink has anounced it it's not a rumour, it's fact. Where did the rumour originate?
Is it your own speculation?

There's nothing in x16rv2 that makes it more technically difficult than x16r to implement on ASIC or FPGA.
It's probably only a matter of time and demand.

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