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legendary
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we are already sure that a 1070 can do 180sol, because nicehash has a work in progress miner that reach that speed, still unreleased, but it will be for their pool only, so i'm not really interested

but this mean that 200 is achievable



214Sols/s  POSSIBLE--

The coder djeZo just posted, on another thread, a screencap of a GTX 1070 achieving 214Sols/s.  He says that more is possoble.       --scryptr
legendary
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ICO? Not even once.

No, that's just their crappy pool. If they had a proper MPOS pool instead of their basic NOMP implementation then it wouldn't be crap. I'm not bashing NOMP but it basically has zero transparency.


'The pool had a bad luck in the start, so the interest of miners in using this pool was slowly dropping...'

bathrobehero, any thoughts on this?

I mined ZEC at the start on multiple pools trying to gauge them and the payouts for the nicehash pool were terrible days after the launch.

That's probably the main reason miners left their pool (last block found was 20 hours ago) the second being that their pool is too basic for today's standards; there are no stats for miners to get an idea of their earnings and no transparency.

If they would setup an MPOS pool (like suprnova or coinmine) and allow their miner to work there as well as on nicehash I would actually be interested in their miner and I'm sure I'm not the only one. That is if I'd still mine ZEC/ZCL - which I'm not.
legendary
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we are already sure that a 1070 can do 180sol, because nicehash has a work in progress miner that reach that speed, still unreleased, but it will be for their pool only, so i'm not really interested

but this mean that 200 is achievable
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
so, see

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16965755

a gtx 1070 can reach 200 easily, based on this speed for amd by clymore

no.

why so? memory bus and bandwith are the same, what are the limited factors here?

ASK NERDRALF--

The following is a quote from NerdRalph about AMD:

"While my initial analysis was focused on the external GDDR5 bandwidth limits, current ZEC GPU mining software seems to be limited by the memory controller/core bus.  On AMD GCN, each memory controller can xfer 64 bytes (1 cache line) per clock.  In SA5, the ht_store function, in addition to adding to row counters, does 4 separate memory writes for most rounds (3 writes for the last couple rounds).  All of these writes are either 4 or 8 bytes, so much less than 64 bytes per clock are being transferred to the L2 cache.  A single thread (1 SIMD element) can transfer at most 16 bytes (dwordX4) in a single instruction.  This means a modified ht_store thread could update a row slot in 2 clocks.  If the update operation is split between 2 (or 4 or more) threads, one slot can be updated in one clock, since 2 threads can simultaneously write to different parts of the same 64-byte block.  This would mean each row update operation could be done in 2 GPU core clock cycles; one for the counter update, and one for updating the row slot.

Even with those changes, my calculations indicate that a ZEC miner would be limited by the core clock, according to a ratio of approximately 5:6.  In other words, when a Rx 470 has a memory clock of 1750Mhz, the core would need to be clocked at 1750 * 5/6 = 1458Mhz in order to achieve maximum performance.

If the row counters can be kept in LDS or GDS, the core:memory ratio required would be 1:2, thereby allowing full use of the external memory bandwidth.  There is 64KB of LDS per CU, and the AMD GCN architecture docs indicate the LDS can be globally addressed; i.e. one CU can access the LDS of another CU.  However the syntax of OpenCL does not permit the local memory of one work-group to be accessed by a different work-group.  There is only 64KB of GDS shared by all CUs, and even if the row counters could be stored in such a small amount of memory, OpenCL does not have any concept of GDS.

This likely means writing a top performance ZEC miner for AMD is the domain of someone who codes in GCN assembler.  Canis lupus?"

NerdRalf is not an nVidia programmer, but I think someone donated a couple of nVidia cards to him just for Zcash programming.  If someone could explain the hashing speed limit on nVidia hardware in similar terms, we would have a real answer.

I don't think memory bus and memory bandwidth are the same.  Some AMD cards are specified at different values for bus, and for bandwidth.       --scryptr
legendary
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No, that's just their crappy pool. If they had a proper MPOS pool instead of their basic NOMP implementation then it wouldn't be crap. I'm not bashing NOMP but it basically has zero transparency.


'The pool had a bad luck in the start, so the interest of miners in using this pool was slowly dropping...'

bathrobehero, any thoughts on this?
legendary
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IMHO

The only limit is the fantasy .

I think one gtx 1070 is easy get 200+ sol .
I think  IMO  it can reach even more than 300 s/s because of the blake algo rounds embedded in it.
legendary
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ICO? Not even once.
The opensource NVIDIA developers have quit. But Nicehash will release a new miner that does 180SOl/s on the gtx 1070 soon. (zcash)

yeah but it will be closed and tied to their pool so useless, unless you can reverse engineering it

Nicehash closed pool zcash :

https://www.nicehash.com/?p=news&id=115

I hope the new miner for nvidia its free and work in all pool .



No, that's just their crappy pool. If they had a proper MPOS pool instead of their basic NOMP implementation then it wouldn't be crap. I'm not bashing NOMP but it basically has zero transparency.


why so? memory bus and bandwith are the same, what are the limited factors here?

factor=greedy community and developers. Even nicehash hardcoded their binary private protocol to nv miner lol. I can understand if it was 200 s/s miner, but it is 135 s/s . I thing there will not be any free nv miner... like no nv miner for monero.

AMD wouldn't be any different without Claymore's fee based miner.
full member
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why so? memory bus and bandwith are the same, what are the limited factors here?

factor=greedy community and developers. Even nicehash hardcoded their binary private protocol to nv miner lol. I can understand if it was 200 s/s miner, but it is 135 s/s . I thing there will not be any free nv miner... like no nv miner for monero.
legendary
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IMHO

The only limit is the fantasy .

I think one gtx 1070 is easy get 200+ sol .
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
so, see

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16965755

a gtx 1070 can reach 200 easily, based on this speed for amd by clymore

no.

why so? memory bus and bandwith are the same, what are the limited factors here?
full member
Activity: 243
Merit: 105
so, see

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16965755

a gtx 1070 can reach 200 easily, based on this speed for amd by clymore

no.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
so, see

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16965755

a gtx 1070 can reach 200 easily, based on this speed for amd by clymore
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1001
The opensource NVIDIA developers have quit. But Nicehash will release a new miner that does 180SOl/s on the gtx 1070 soon. (zcash)

yeah but it will be closed and tied to their pool so useless, unless you can reverse engineering it

Nicehash closed pool zcash :

https://www.nicehash.com/?p=news&id=115

I hope the new miner for nvidia its free and work in all pool .

legendary
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EVGA Addresses GeForce GTX 1080 FTW PWM Temperature Problems (Update 2: All BIOS Updates Available)
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-addresses-geforce-1080-temperature-problems,32967.html
full member
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The opensource NVIDIA developers have quit. But Nicehash will release a new miner that does 180SOl/s on the gtx 1070 soon. (zcash)

yeah but it will be closed and tied to their pool so useless, unless you can reverse engineering it

It's all about shitty nvidia community -(
legendary
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krnlx commited to github 3 hours ago:

(opencl code)

Performance 6x1070, Linux, +1600mem (it seems that on Linux +1600 = +800 on win), samsung memory

Total 836.0 sol/s [dev0 129.0, dev1 141.0, dev2 143.6, dev3 141.2, dev4 147.7, dev5 135.7] 55 shares
Total 835.5 sol/s [dev0 131.4, dev1 139.4, dev2 143.6, dev3 139.7, dev4 145.0, dev5 136.8] 56 shares
Total 833.7 sol/s [dev0 130.6, dev1 139.1, dev2 143.9, dev3 140.1, dev4 143.3, dev5 137.6] 56 shares
Total 837.0 sol/s [dev0 129.5, dev1 138.2, dev2 146.0, dev3 139.7, dev4 139.6, dev5 137.6] 57 shares
Total 837.9 sol/s [dev0 130.3, dev1 138.1, dev2 144.7, dev3 138.8, dev4 136.6, dev5 136.6] 58 shares
Total 841.4 sol/s [dev0 132.3, dev1 138.8, dev2 145.7, dev3 138.8, dev4 137.9, dev5 136.7] 59 shares
Total 842.2 sol/s [dev0 139.7, dev1 137.9, dev2 145.3, dev3 139.6, dev4 138.0, dev5 137.6] 59 shares
Total 842.7 sol/s [dev0 139.7, dev1 136.2, dev2 145.7, dev3 141.7, dev4 135.8, dev5 136.7] 59 shares
Total 842.7 sol/s [dev0 139.2, dev1 139.2, dev2 144.0, dev3 143.0, dev4 135.0, dev5 137.5] 61 shares
Total 841.0 sol/s [dev0 136.9, dev1 139.6, dev2 145.3, dev3 142.0, dev4 137.3, dev5 136.6] 61 shares
Total 840.1 sol/s [dev0 134.9, dev1 137.7, dev2 145.6, dev3 140.3, dev4 137.2, dev5 138.4] 61 shares
Total 837.2 sol/s [dev0 133.5, dev1 138.6, dev2 145.7, dev3 139.5, dev4 137.7, dev5 138.9] 61 shares
Total 832.4 sol/s [dev0 134.0, dev1 136.4, dev2 148.5, dev3 138.0, dev4 130.7, dev5 130.8] 62 shares

https://github.com/krnlx/silentarmy-nvmod/blob/e608e829f309cc7992134e89e3161206420612e8/README.md


I think if merge the latest code I can do 170Sol/s (gtx 1070) because I modded different parts of the code.

I still think I can do a free miner that does 170sol/s on the gtx 1070 that works on all pools. Sp-mod #2. But I don't have time right now.
Sp is it possible that you can build that so i can use it on my vista without  msvs 2015?  I upgraded the hdd 3 yrs ago and its missing a file that updates anything even to win 7.  thx
legendary
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The opensource NVIDIA developers have quit. But Nicehash will release a new miner that does 180SOl/s on the gtx 1070 soon. (zcash)

yeah but it will be closed and tied to their pool so useless, unless you can reverse engineering it
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legendary
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Team Black developer
The opensource NVIDIA developers have quit. But Nicehash will release a new miner that does 180SOl/s on the gtx 1070 soon. (zcash)
legendary
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What makes a technology great?  Support for that technology.  So who is winning right now between AMD and Nvidia?  Obviously AMD.  And this thread is the holy grail for Nvidia support. 

It's funny.  It's ironic.  It's cruel.  It's disgusting.  It's a lot of four letter words and it can all be summed up by the best four-letter word of them all.  That's:

LIFE
legendary
Activity: 3248
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krnlx commited to github 3 hours ago:

(opencl code)

Performance 6x1070, Linux, +1600mem (it seems that on Linux +1600 = +800 on win), samsung memory

Total 836.0 sol/s [dev0 129.0, dev1 141.0, dev2 143.6, dev3 141.2, dev4 147.7, dev5 135.7] 55 shares
Total 835.5 sol/s [dev0 131.4, dev1 139.4, dev2 143.6, dev3 139.7, dev4 145.0, dev5 136.8] 56 shares
Total 833.7 sol/s [dev0 130.6, dev1 139.1, dev2 143.9, dev3 140.1, dev4 143.3, dev5 137.6] 56 shares
Total 837.0 sol/s [dev0 129.5, dev1 138.2, dev2 146.0, dev3 139.7, dev4 139.6, dev5 137.6] 57 shares
Total 837.9 sol/s [dev0 130.3, dev1 138.1, dev2 144.7, dev3 138.8, dev4 136.6, dev5 136.6] 58 shares
Total 841.4 sol/s [dev0 132.3, dev1 138.8, dev2 145.7, dev3 138.8, dev4 137.9, dev5 136.7] 59 shares
Total 842.2 sol/s [dev0 139.7, dev1 137.9, dev2 145.3, dev3 139.6, dev4 138.0, dev5 137.6] 59 shares
Total 842.7 sol/s [dev0 139.7, dev1 136.2, dev2 145.7, dev3 141.7, dev4 135.8, dev5 136.7] 59 shares
Total 842.7 sol/s [dev0 139.2, dev1 139.2, dev2 144.0, dev3 143.0, dev4 135.0, dev5 137.5] 61 shares
Total 841.0 sol/s [dev0 136.9, dev1 139.6, dev2 145.3, dev3 142.0, dev4 137.3, dev5 136.6] 61 shares
Total 840.1 sol/s [dev0 134.9, dev1 137.7, dev2 145.6, dev3 140.3, dev4 137.2, dev5 138.4] 61 shares
Total 837.2 sol/s [dev0 133.5, dev1 138.6, dev2 145.7, dev3 139.5, dev4 137.7, dev5 138.9] 61 shares
Total 832.4 sol/s [dev0 134.0, dev1 136.4, dev2 148.5, dev3 138.0, dev4 130.7, dev5 130.8] 62 shares

https://github.com/krnlx/silentarmy-nvmod/blob/e608e829f309cc7992134e89e3161206420612e8/README.md


I think if merge the latest code I can do 170Sol/s (gtx 1070) because I modded different parts of the code.

I still think I can do a free miner that does 170sol/s on the gtx 1070 that works on all pools. Sp-mod #2. But I don't have time right now.

You are about a month too late anyway so don't bother.

ZCASH IS PROFITABLE--

The algorithm uses little energy, and Zcash (ZEC) is currently peaking in price.  The block reward is rising.  It is worth $10/day more (with my rigs) than mining Ethereum (ETH) with the same rigs.  FeatherCoin (FTC) is a distant third.

If SilentArmy were optimized more, I would mine with it.       --scryptr

only good thing is that there are chance of a pump after the block hit the maximum, i can see this coming, but currently zcash is producing too many btc per day

this is the reason why it can not be pumped higher enough
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