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legendary
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well i don't care what you think, if you are mad because you were worthless and can not catch any shit out there, it's your problem

the fact that you still think it has to do with volume, prove that you were not able to do anything with instamining

so see you with your next shitty reply, good bye
legendary
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This shitfest of retardanism isn't why I came to the thread tonight though.

Lbry has been earning 10% less then Ethereum straight up right now, 25% if you include dual mining.
legendary
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it's your problem if you were not that fast and can not catch the coin fast enough to make profit, there was a setup to have(like folder of %appdata% already open etc...) to catch the first block before everyone else, besides a good connection

but for me it always worked, there was no profit to calculate it was all private, you seems to not understand this, because it has nothing to do with how many crypto you downloaded, it has to do with being fast before everyone else, so that screen prove nothing

and i think yes you wasn't that good at it either otherwise you would know

it was working like this

you instamine before everyone else(not always possible) but basically 90% of the time there were blocks for you, i was fast enough to catch at least 5-10 block on each shitcoin, this was already a guaranteed of 0.2 btc(shitcoin were evaluated much more before)

then you start immediately to sell it on the official thread, and it was always a win situation, because back then there were plenty of newbies who were throwing money at crypto, tnx to doge influx

some times you need to wait the exchange and dump at the first pump, then you repeat with a new coin etc... it has ALWAYS worked for me, there were no risk at all and all gain

sry but i made like 10-20 btc on this using 2 gpu, yes you heard right 2 gpu only with virtually zero risk, so the one that don't know what is talking about, it's without a doubt not me

WTF are you talking about? Zero day mining is NOT the same as normal mining. Mining a shitcoin years ago is NOT the same as normal mining now days. I ALREADY mentioned in the last post that I have participated in it, along with a screenshot of my relatively clean wallet folder.

At least take the time to read someones reply before you make another misinformed post I have to ONCE AGAIN correct.

Turn down your dumbass a bit dude.

sry but i made like 10-20 btc on this using 2 gpu, yes you heard right 2 gpu only with virtually zero risk, so the one that don't know what is talking about, it's without a doubt not me

Yup, I bet you did. Just like you never lost money. Your Pinocchio nose keeps growing with every post while you jerk yourself off. You wonder why people give very little regard to what you say? Oh yeah, look at the former posts.
legendary
Activity: 3248
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it's your problem if you were not that fast and can not catch the coin fast enough to make profit, there was a setup to have(like folder of %appdata% already open etc...) to catch the first block before everyone else, besides a good connection

but for me it always worked, there was no profit to calculate it was all private, you seems to not understand this, because it has nothing to do with how many crypto you downloaded, it has to do with being fast before everyone else, so that screen prove nothing

and i think yes you wasn't that good at it either otherwise you would know

it was working like this

you instamine before everyone else(not always possible) but basically 90% of the time there were blocks for you, i was fast enough to catch at least 5-10 block on each shitcoin, this was already a guaranteed of 0.2 btc(shitcoin were evaluated much more before)

then you start immediately to sell it on the official thread, and it was always a win situation, because back then there were plenty of newbies who were throwing money at crypto, tnx to doge influx

some times you need to wait the exchange and dump at the first pump, then you repeat with a new coin etc... it has ALWAYS worked for me, there were no risk at all and all gain

sry but i made like 10-20 btc on this using 2 gpu, yes you heard right 2 gpu only with virtually zero risk, so the one that don't know what is talking about, it's without a doubt not me
legendary
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whattomine was useless back then, the gems were the new launched coin each week, never heard of leafcoin?you must be new here then... i made 2 btc there in 2 minute of instamining

like i've said, i instamined the shit out of this place in 2013-2014, so i know what i'm talking about

then instamining was not working anymore because they learned and made 0 block reward for the first 100 block plus diff retarget kimoto gravity/temporal and all that crap, so everyone was using the rental with big hash to early mine as much as possible and speculate on exchange

still there was big early profit with some coin and random pumping/hype like for roxcoin(this was part of those coins that were pumped one time after they hit exchange, big enough to make a very good profit, then it dies), made 0.7 early, by early mining it when the reward was high

Oh yeah, the good old golden times for crypto miners when a couple of coins launched each day.

Spamming F5, downloading the wallet while also pointing all your rigs to the address of the wallet that's not even downloaded yet, starting it, closing the typical first launch bug error, restarting and watching as you flashmine the first X amount of blocks is a great experience. And it was sometimes stupidly profitable.

Bensam can't seem to understand that you didn't need to invest anything - other than time. Most of the time you only had to mine for minutes, maybe hours. That's hardly an investment in exchange for dozens of blocks. Most of the time you would have had to mine for days to earn the same amount of coins once pools launched and the difficulty ramped up - and you could earn that in a matter of minutes if you were one of the first.

I have all the wallets that I have ever downloaded and used which is now over 250 - and I mined some coins to most of them.

Bensam also started mining in '13. He understands how speculating works and that most of the time it didn't, just like bag holding. I know fully well about zero day mining and have participated in some of it myself. While there wasn't 'whattomine' as that showed up in 15~, there was Coinwarz and they were quite relevant towards the middle half of 14... but seemingly stopped updating their coins after x11ish and occasionally they add something new.

Zero day mining is quite a bit different then talking about volume and substantial volume in forum trading, which is what this argument was about. I don't know where you guys came up with the idea that I don't understand how zero day mining works or that I've never done it?

As I mentioned, Amph is fucking retarded and can barely calculate profitability. You need volume in order to mine a coin to any extent. It's proportional to the amount of profit you want to get out of it. If you want to misconstrue what I was talking about to talk about zero day mining, you can, but that has nothing to do with what we were talking about. Mining normal coins isn't the same as mining shit coins years ago for a half a second when they first come out.



Those are just the wallets that don't have a installer and I've mined for any length of time (usually a couple of days to a week). I've cleaned up a lot of wallets over the years and I don't keep zero day wallets around for any length of time. My appdata folder is a complete mess.
legendary
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whattomine was useless back then, the gems were the new launched coin each week, never heard of leafcoin?you must be new here then... i made 2 btc there in 2 minute of instamining

like i've said, i instamined the shit out of this place in 2013-2014, so i know what i'm talking about

then instamining was not working anymore because they learned and made 0 block reward for the first 100 block plus diff retarget kimoto gravity/temporal and all that crap, so everyone was using the rental with big hash to early mine as much as possible and speculate on exchange

still there was big early profit with some coin and random pumping/hype like for roxcoin(this was part of those coins that were pumped one time after they hit exchange, big enough to make a very good profit, then it dies), made 0.7 early, by early mining it when the reward was high

Oh yeah, the good old golden times for crypto miners when a couple of coins launched each day.

Spamming F5, downloading the wallet while also pointing all your rigs to the address of the wallet that's not even downloaded yet, starting it, closing the typical first launch bug error, restarting and watching as you flashmine the first X amount of blocks is a great experience. And it was sometimes stupidly profitable.

Bensam can't seem to understand that you didn't need to invest anything - other than time. Most of the time you only had to mine for minutes, maybe hours. That's hardly an investment in exchange for dozens of blocks. Most of the time you would have had to mine for days to earn the same amount of coins once pools launched and the difficulty ramped up - and you could earn that in a matter of minutes if you were one of the first.

I have all the wallets that I have ever downloaded and used which is now over 250 - and I mined some coins to most of them.

yeah this is what i was talking about, you just need few minuts for each coin, some times even few second, it was hilarious and fun

and the risk were always zero, because if you missed one, there was another the next day with the same potential, but this was more true early in 2014, not so much in the summer

well sad for, but for me instamining was the best in 2014, it always worked like i've said, i know it's not common and not many were able to take advantage of this

but i did not lost a single penny, there were coin that were giving me 1 btc in 10 seconds(panda coin instamine, i still remember when i found 50 block in solo mine, before everyone else), and i'm not even joking

and no i'm not saying there is volume in private, i'm saying there is profit(much higher than you think) in private trading, which is different


And it didn't always work, like I've said. Just like bag holding on shitcoins. There wasn't always people around to buy your shit or even want it, which is why I never mined coins that didn't make it to exchanges. That's highly, extraordinarily volitile. If it somehow worked for you, you were suuuuuuper lucky and should consider yourself so, but it doesn't work that way for everyone else. Not everyone gets to win the lottery.

Also anyone who says they've never lost a penny while speculating is full of shit.

Profit is pointless if there is no volume. You can trade one penny for two pennies and you're definitely turning a profit... matter of a fact, you're doubling your investment!  But it's still two pennies and pointless when you put it into any meaningful context.

Just like there are some coins you can mine with no difficulty, but they tank when you put more then one GPU on them. Volume is virtually synonymous with difficulty in the way they work.

the only thing that i lost was some energy feeding my single/dual gpu, but only when the coin that they launched had problem, like wallet not working/no synch etc... and so a re-launch was needed, so you waste energy for nothing...

not a big loss, i've calculated that it was at worst 250 euro for the whole thing, while it lasted
legendary
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I have all the wallets that I have ever downloaded and used which is now over 250 - and I mined some coins to most of them.

And I thought I was a freak.
legendary
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ICO? Not even once.
whattomine was useless back then, the gems were the new launched coin each week, never heard of leafcoin?you must be new here then... i made 2 btc there in 2 minute of instamining

like i've said, i instamined the shit out of this place in 2013-2014, so i know what i'm talking about

then instamining was not working anymore because they learned and made 0 block reward for the first 100 block plus diff retarget kimoto gravity/temporal and all that crap, so everyone was using the rental with big hash to early mine as much as possible and speculate on exchange

still there was big early profit with some coin and random pumping/hype like for roxcoin(this was part of those coins that were pumped one time after they hit exchange, big enough to make a very good profit, then it dies), made 0.7 early, by early mining it when the reward was high

Oh yeah, the good old golden times for crypto miners when a couple of coins launched each day.

Spamming F5, downloading the wallet while also pointing all your rigs to the address of the wallet that's not even downloaded yet, starting it, closing the typical first launch bug error, restarting and watching as you flashmine the first X amount of blocks is a great experience. And it was sometimes stupidly profitable.

Bensam can't seem to understand that you didn't need to invest anything - other than time. Most of the time you only had to mine for minutes, maybe hours. That's hardly an investment in exchange for dozens of blocks. Most of the time you would have had to mine for days to earn the same amount of coins once pools launched and the difficulty ramped up - and you could earn that in a matter of minutes if you were one of the first.

I have all the wallets that I have ever downloaded and used which is now over 250 - and I mined some coins to most of them.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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I have a feeling there will be nothing to optimize anymore. Could be wrong though.

1GH rented x11 back then was ~480 darkcoin/ day.

6 out of 10 is enough.
legendary
Activity: 1764
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well sad for, but for me instamining was the best in 2014, it always worked like i've said, i know it's not common and not many were able to take advantage of this

but i did not lost a single penny, there were coin that were giving me 1 btc in 10 seconds(panda coin instamine, i still remember when i found 50 block in solo mine, before everyone else), and i'm not even joking

and no i'm not saying there is volume in private, i'm saying there is profit(much higher than you think) in private trading, which is different


And it didn't always work, like I've said. Just like bag holding on shitcoins. There wasn't always people around to buy your shit or even want it, which is why I never mined coins that didn't make it to exchanges. That's highly, extraordinarily volitile. If it somehow worked for you, you were suuuuuuper lucky and should consider yourself so, but it doesn't work that way for everyone else. Not everyone gets to win the lottery.

Also anyone who says they've never lost a penny while speculating is full of shit.

Profit is pointless if there is no volume. You can trade one penny for two pennies and you're definitely turning a profit... matter of a fact, you're doubling your investment!  But it's still two pennies and pointless when you put it into any meaningful context.

Just like there are some coins you can mine with no difficulty, but they tank when you put more then one GPU on them. Volume is virtually synonymous with difficulty in the way they work.
legendary
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195  on the cheapest 3g 1060 in the book coin algo...sp-mod #6

The miner from the "Heads" is doing 150 on the same hardware and clockrate..

D...H.....

HMMMMM, CRYPTIC MESSAGE--

Well, maybe the book coin algo is "-a lbry", but the rest of the message has got me stumped. "Designated Hitter" is a baseball term, so I think that I might be way off.  Oh, well.

Why can't we all just get along?       --scryptr
sp_
legendary
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Team Black developer
195  on the cheapest 3g 1060 in the book coin algo...sp-mod #6

The miner from the "Heads" is doing 150 on the same hardware and clockrate..

D...H.....
legendary
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True, you just needed to be faster and smarter than other smallminers. Still works.

legendary
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well i never said that a big farm does not need volume that is obvious, i just said that it was possible to do profit privately without big volume, some times

and this was always true for small miners
legendary
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Instamining, ninjalaunches were almost daily back then. Btc and ltc boom I spent on the local forum where worlds best knowledge about amd bios modding was.

But that doesn't change the fact that a real mining farm needs volume. Small miners are more flexible and can earn some extra dimes here and there.
legendary
Activity: 3248
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whattomine was useless back then, the gems were the new launched coin each week, never heard of leafcoin?you must be new here then... i made 2 btc there in 2 minute of instamining

like i've said, i instamined the shit out of this place in 2013-2014, so i know what i'm talking about

then instamining was not working anymore because they learned and made 0 block reward for the first 100 block plus diff retarget kimoto gravity/temporal and all that crap, so everyone was using the rental with big hash to early mine as much as possible and speculate on exchange

still there was big early profit with some coin and random pumping/hype like for roxcoin(this was part of those coins that were pumped one time after they hit exchange, big enough to make a very good profit, then it dies), made 0.7 early, by early mining it when the reward was high
legendary
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Yeah back in 14 when there was a shitcoin per week, speculation galore, and whattomine didn't exist? Sure.

There was whattomine, launch at april 2014.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/whattomine-profitability-website-with-basic-json-567730

I remember hitting F5 on whattomine to see when darkcoin self-forks again. When that happened whattomine calculated $500 daily earnings for 5x750ti rig. Those who rented some cheap x11 hashpower earned quite well...

Dump at ATH, buy back at 0.011 and dump again on 0.019, btc was 490-500€. That was a goldmine.

Wasn't there shitcoin per day?

legendary
Activity: 3248
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well sad for, but for me instamining was the best in 2014, it always worked like i've said, i know it's not common and not many were able to take advantage of this

but i did not lost a single penny, there were coin that were giving me 1 btc in 10 seconds(panda coin instamine, i still remember when i found 50 block in solo mine, before everyone else), and i'm not even joking

and no i'm not saying there is volume in private, i'm saying there is profit(much higher than you think) in private trading, which is different
legendary
Activity: 1764
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i was losing nothing with instamine back then, i made a shit load of bitcoin, in no time , with leaf, pandacoin, jackpotcoin, noblecoin, and all the other shit together

so yes it was working for me with few gpu, and no, it was working for the big farmer either, it was all about who instamined more, and no i'm not inexperienced at all

the trick was also to sell privately, and not waiting for the exchamge, in that case volume mean nothing, only speculation/hype about the coin matter

There were coins that never made it to exchanges dude and/or instantly tanked to the point where you lost money speculating on new coins. I never mined coins before they made it to exchanges. For every one coin that worked out, you'd lose on five other coins. Just like holding and expecting a coin to increase in value because it has 'merit'.

Experience has nothing to do with what we're talking about here. If you're a idiot, it doesn't matter how much 'experience' you've had. You can have people who work at a job their entire life and have absolutely no idea why they do what they do or what implications it has (ergo this argument). Hence why we went through the whole problem area where all the eth-babies were flushing out into different coins and instantly tanking them into nothing.

Low and behold, just like tanking difficulty with too many cards you can do the same thing if the market can't support the weight of your mining... IE volume. Volume operates in exactly the same way as difficulty. A coin be worth a fuck ton, but if there is no volume, no buy support, that price means nothing as it will instantly tank when you start to sell, let alone the snowball where selling causes other people to sell.

There is no volume in private trades dude. You have one 970 mining and you sell to one guy online DOES NOT mean there is a market there. Even if you have a couple 1070s, that still means nothing in terms of difficulty or volume. I mean you're basically disproving yourself by trying to make a point of there being VOLUME in private trading on the forums. That's exactly what I'm arguing and you're trying to tell me that there is plenty of buy support available (VOLUME) you just can't see it... Which putting aside the legitimacy of such a claim (btw still waiting for your whattomine hash numbers), still is what I was talking about.

What do you think buying and selling is? It doesn't matter where it happens, it's still volume.
sr. member
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that what i was talking about, also it's not like this was the first time i did this

i did this so many times that it was not even funny anymore, back in 2014, and always worked, honestly i don't care about the volume if i can get big profit out of a coin, that die the day after the launch

also not all coin need to be big, you have etheruem/lbry that gives you constant profit, and shit coin, that might gives you high profit early and then be uselesses, this is was always true here, and veltor was one of this

Yeah back in 14 when there was a shitcoin per week, speculation galore, and whattomine didn't exist? Sure.

I was also making 4x as much with quarter of my hardware back at the beginning of 14. And conversely was losing more then I was making in power at the end of 14. That has basically zero application to today.

Volume HAS to be big. That scales with the size of your operation. If there is no volume there, that means there are no sell walls or buy walls to absorb dumping let alone normal healthy trading that happens in a coin that's working. If there are no buy walls, each time you dump or sell your coins the coin will devalue, it snowballs.

The higher the profit, the higher the volume has to be to absorb your ability to mine. 2BTC means you would literally have to be one of the only people mining it or you have a couple GPUs. I can only assume you have almost no hardware and are relatively inexperienced when it comes to difficulty manipulation and mining smaller coins.

Shitload translation: shit Smiley

Agree.
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