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Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 650. (Read 2347677 times)

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we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

Windows 7 is getting 1 MHASH.

Windows 10 is getting 5 MHASH.

With the fix you get same speed as on linux.

Around 24MHASH for the 1080 and 27MHASH for the 1070

wasn't the 1070 already at 27MH on windows 10 and linux only?

and 24MH is still bad for a card that cost so much


what about another algos ?  what results
legendary
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we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

Windows 7 is getting 1 MHASH.

Windows 10 is getting 5 MHASH.

With the fix you get same speed as on linux.

Around 24MHASH for the 1080 and 27MHASH for the 1070

As I mentioned, this is why a dual miner is definitely needed now. Even more overhead available for mining another GPU intensive algo.

A dual miner is completely out of the question for me as long as this issue is not resolved. If there's any GPU mining during the time of Pascal, it'll most likely be ETH. And if it's not that, it'll be some other memory hard algo, because the concept seems to have proven itself lately. Nobody is going to mine ETH at a meagre 5MH/s and pay off the electricity bill with some DCR or what other compute-bound (read: prone to FPGA and ASIC implementation) altcoin on the side, and then still donate me generously for it  Grin.

As vaulter has mentioned various times, a fix will very likely come in the shape of WDDM 2.1, which supports 2 and 8MB (and another one) TLB page sizes in addition to the 4 and 64KB we already have with WDDM 2.0. ethminer works better on Win10 than on previous versions because of the 64KB page size support WDDM 2.0 already has. Why it performs under 1MH on Win7/8 (bit like GM107 on Win8) is a mystery to me, apparently a new driver to partially fix that is also in the making.

I finally gave in to the constant Win 10 upgrade nagging today and boy is this slow hashing annoying. I refuse to downgrade my GPU driver, so I'll most likely end up developing on Linux until a fix is there. And then I still need a 1070.

There are almost no algos that are nearly as memory hard as Eth. Neoscrypt is like the next closest thing and it uses about half the MCU on a 970.

Other algos still generate profit. In this case, you mine another coin and use Eth to cleanup the leftover available memory bandwidth, not the other way around. No one says Eth has to be the primary coin you're mining, it's just another combination.
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we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

Windows 7 is getting 1 MHASH.

Windows 10 is getting 5 MHASH.

With the fix you get same speed as on linux.

Around 24MHASH for the 1080 and 27MHASH for the 1070

As I mentioned, this is why a dual miner is definitely needed now. Even more overhead available for mining another GPU intensive algo.

A dual miner is completely out of the question for me as long as this issue is not resolved. If there's any GPU mining during the time of Pascal, it'll most likely be ETH. And if it's not that, it'll be some other memory hard algo, because the concept seems to have proven itself lately. Nobody is going to mine ETH at a meagre 5MH/s and pay off the electricity bill with some DCR or what other compute-bound (read: prone to FPGA and ASIC implementation) altcoin on the side, and then still donate me generously for it  Grin.

As vaulter has mentioned various times, a fix will very likely come in the shape of WDDM 2.1, which supports 2 and 8MB (and another one) TLB page sizes in addition to the 4 and 64KB we already have with WDDM 2.0. ethminer works better on Win10 than on previous versions because of the 64KB page size support WDDM 2.0 already has. Why it performs under 1MH on Win7/8 (bit like GM107 on Win8) is a mystery to me, apparently a new driver to partially fix that is also in the making.

I finally gave in to the constant Win 10 upgrade nagging today and boy is this slow hashing annoying. I refuse to downgrade my GPU driver, so I'll most likely end up developing on Linux until a fix is there. And then I still need a 1070.
legendary
Activity: 1764
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we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

Windows 7 is getting 1 MHASH.

Windows 10 is getting 5 MHASH.

With the fix you get same speed as on linux.

Around 24MHASH for the 1080 and 27MHASH for the 1070

As I mentioned, this is why a dual miner is definitely needed now. Even more overhead available for mining another GPU intensive algo.
legendary
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There will be a TLB page size fix. Hopefully it works for Maxwell, too  Grin

But if it will bring random memory access performance of 1080 above 1070? I doubt it.

is that the update coming in july for windows 10? what about win 7 we are stuck with that issue?
sr. member
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There will be a TLB page size fix. Hopefully it works for Maxwell, too  Grin

But if it will bring random memory access performance of 1080 above 1070? I doubt it.
legendary
Activity: 3248
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we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

Windows 7 is getting 1 MHASH.

Windows 10 is getting 5 MHASH.

With the fix you get same speed as on linux.

Around 24MHASH for the 1080 and 27MHASH for the 1070

wasn't the 1070 already at 27MH on windows 10 and linux only?

and 24MH is still bad for a card that cost so much
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
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Team Black developer
we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

Windows 7 is getting 1 MHASH.

Windows 10 is getting 5 MHASH.

With the fix you get same speed as on linux.

Around 24MHASH for the 1080 and 27MHASH for the 1070
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
we still have 27MH on the 1070, even with the best drivers, without that fix for the trashing you will not be able to reach 40MH
sp_
legendary
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Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
We need a modded driver.  1-5MHASH @etherum on the 1080 is a joke.
legendary
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TOO EARLY FOR PASCAL--

The best, manufacturer-tweaked and modded Pascal cards are not even on the market yet.  Unless you are a developer or you want an original edition card as a collector's item, it is too soon to buy.  People like sp_, djm34, tpruvot need to discover the best code for the new chipset, and manufacturers need to optimize the electronics for best performance.

It will be 6 months to a year or more before adjustments are made.  Too soon to buy in just now for a miner.       --scryptr
looks like it's rollin'
http://cryptomining-blog.com/
legendary
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TOO EARLY FOR PASCAL--

The best, manufacturer-tweaked and modded Pascal cards are not even on the market yet.  Unless you are a developer or you want an original edition card as a collector's item, it is too soon to buy.  People like sp_, djm34, tpruvot need to discover the best code for the new chipset, and manufacturers need to optimize the electronics for best performance.

It will be 6 months to a year or more before adjustments are made.  Too soon to buy in just now for a miner.       --scryptr
legendary
Activity: 1764
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Still waiting for a dual miner... . . .

Not sure why none of the Nvidia developers are interested in this. Nvidia has a lot of headroom available due to its shitty performance on Dagger. Even more so as it appears that Pascal performs like crap on Dagger as well. This is a big deal.
sp_
legendary
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Team Black developer
16nm vs 28nm. Difficult to compete with that. I will not do any public pascal optimalizations yet. Perhaps private in the future.
legendary
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Black Belt Developer
Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.

sp public or even tpruvot will be more efficient on pascal than your priv on maxwell ;-)
legendary
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Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.

are you going to release a public miner for pascal, or it will be all private?
legendary
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Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.
Does that mean pascals are not good for mining or we will wait for someone to write kernals for them?
sp_
legendary
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Team Black developer
Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.
legendary
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Nicehash, service can be used constructively for the benefit of algos, often you can get discount on new ALT Coin launches, people take their BTC there and put in a contract and mine hold that Alt Coin, when they don't want to buy GPU's or ASIC hardware.

Mainly, Nicehash was put together when electricity prices in Europe where sky-high (two years ago electricity was $0.21 per kwh in the UK). Now electricity prices are more competitive $0.13 per kwh  Smiley

So, Europeans would buy hash at Nicehash from people who lived in cheap electricity areas; this is the main reason cloudmining took off as well.

Other pools like Yaamp and few others where the main reason for depressing Alt Coins. All of these mining pools eventually went bankrupt because they depress Alt Coin prices, which is why you probably missed the real culprits.

Now, with Alt Coin prices recovering they've come back with a pool like Zpool.CA.



Those pools disappeared because Nicehash is the mother of all auto-switching pools. It's essentially crowd sourced algo switching. Whatever is paying the most gets switched to. At least with auto-switching pools they had to add coins. Essentially every coin in existence was added to Nicehash.

Don't misunderstand the market on Nicehash. If you're a miner, the market there wants to pay you AS LITTLE as possible. People purchasing hash there don't want to pay you as much as you can make say mining Lyra2, they want to pay you as little as they can and still get hashrate. This artificially depresses miners and the people purchasing hash there are usually bots or normal miners that just want to net the difference.

That's what a market is, buyers want to pay the least and sellers want to charge the most. There is nothing artificial about it.
Mining at nicehash is attractive because you know exactly how much you will get: no luck, no orphans, no waiting for confirmation.
no exchange risk. Some people are willing to accept a lower payout for reliability.

If you mine on a bigger pool there is very little variance. It's not hard to find a good pool if you spend a little bit of time looking around.

I mean I like that they're trying to make sure everyone is on the same footing as far as hashrate goes. That's in their best interest though. Keeping their miners employed and keeping their 'pool' hashrate up makes sure they stay competitive with other pools.
sp_
legendary
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Team Black developer
I have done an ureleased 8% increase in blake2s.

Maybe you will get the decred #9 or blake2s.
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