CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 833.

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Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2015, 06:44:15 AM

Quote from: Eliovp on December 22, 2015, 06:08:07 AM

If only the AMD community was as nice as the Nvidia community here...

Same with the developers. Not saying that the amd developers are bad. But it's just not like Nvidia..

But times can change, i can only hope so

yeah well, as far as the devs are concerned... I think you have no clue about what you are talking...

Having written algo for both nvidia and amd, the only difference between the two is that for nvidia there is someone which doesn't do any work and ask people to send him the donation instead to the real developer...
and with amd you get message from Wolf0 telling you, that you could have done it better (as well as a few clue to where to look...) Grin

Considering "communities", only 3 words: Grow up people !!! Roll Eyes

It seems that you are your good old grumpy self again Djm.
Why always the negativity?

It seems that you're not so happy with AMD giving Nvidia a big kick in the but. Isn't that what this is all about?

Who said anything about donations? He was talking about the "community", i believe that that means, the people involved. Not only the developers, the miners as well.

And yes. The opencl compiler is crap, that's a well known fact. Plus so many other reasons. So developers tend to lean towards nvidia. Which is normal.

Wolf0 is a different story, again i have no clue what his part is in this conversation.

Well, i hope i have lots of growing up to do. Wink

Let us leave it like this and let us not take over this thread with bullshit. Cool

Quote from: scryptr on December 22, 2015, 08:13:14 AM

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Quote from: s7icky on December 22, 2015, 07:30:26 AM

Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2015, 06:44:15 AM

Quote from: Eliovp on December 22, 2015, 06:08:07 AM

Only if the AMD community was as nice as the Nvidia community here...

Same with the developers. Not saying that the amd developers are bad. But it's just not like Nvidia..

But times can change, i can only hope so

yeah well, as far as the devs are concerned... I think you have no clue about what you are talking...

Having written algo for both nvidia and amd, the only difference between the two is that for nvidia there is someone which doesn't do any work and ask people to send him the donation instead to the real developer...
and with amd you get message from Wolf0 telling you, that you could have done it better (as well as a few clue to where to look...) Grin

Considering "communities", only 3 words: Grow up people !!! Roll Eyes

I NEED DONATIONS FOR 5% INCREASE OR FUCK EVERYONE <3

HOLIDAY SPIRIT--

Rudolph swings both ways, give him a try. Santa don't care if it isn't the big night...

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Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2015, 06:44:15 AM

... for nvidia there is someone which doesn't do any work and ask people to send him the donation instead to the real developer...

I just gave you 5% more quark on the gtx 970 and 5% more lyra2v2 on the gtx 950 and gtx 960.

The 5% lyra2v2 increase have given me 0 BTC in donations and I've spent many hours.

The lyra2v2 optimalizations doesn't work on the 750ti and the gtx 980/980ti cards.

Here are my last commits:

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/commits/windows

The latest changeset are mostly compiler adjustments/tuning to get the cuda 7.5 compiler to perform as fast as cuda 6.5.

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Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2015, 06:44:15 AM

Quote from: Eliovp on December 22, 2015, 06:08:07 AM

Only if the AMD community was as nice as the Nvidia community here...

Same with the developers. Not saying that the amd developers are bad. But it's just not like Nvidia..

But times can change, i can only hope so

yeah well, as far as the devs are concerned... I think you have no clue about what you are talking...

Having written algo for both nvidia and amd, the only difference between the two is that for nvidia there is someone which doesn't do any work and ask people to send him the donation instead to the real developer...
and with amd you get message from Wolf0 telling you, that you could have done it better (as well as a few clue to where to look...) Grin

Considering "communities", only 3 words: Grow up people !!! Roll Eyes

I NEED DONATIONS FOR 5% INCREASE OR FUCK EVERYONE <3

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Quote from: Eliovp on December 22, 2015, 06:08:07 AM

Only if the AMD community was as nice as the Nvidia community here...

Same with the developers. Not saying that the amd developers are bad. But it's just not like Nvidia..

But times can change, i can only hope so

yeah well, as far as the devs are concerned... I think you have no clue about what you are talking...

Having written algo for both nvidia and amd, the only difference between the two is that for nvidia there is someone which doesn't do any work and ask people to send him the donation instead to the real developer...
and with amd you get message from Wolf0 telling you, that you could have done it better (as well as a few clue to where to look...) Grin

Considering "communities", only 3 words: Grow up people !!! Roll Eyes

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Huh?

If only the AMD community was as nice as the Nvidia community here...

Same with the developers. Not saying that the amd developers are bad. But it's just not like Nvidia..

But times can change, i can only hope so

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Quote from: chrysophylax on December 21, 2015, 08:08:28 PM

Quote from: bathrobehero on December 21, 2015, 08:05:16 PM

R9 Nano mining results + power draw

This is pretty crazy especially considering that it's based on the same 28nm process as the Maxwell series.

As if GPU mining profitability taking a huge dive wouldn't be bad enough, AMD stomping on Nvidia once again is making things kind of sad.

agreed - but having that sort of competition is good ...

it makes improvements in code and sdk - such that the optimal performance will be standard and NOT just for the elite ...

good figures for the 980 btw ...

#crysx

Very true. Although I'd love some more competition within Nvidia as well.

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Quote from: bathrobehero on December 21, 2015, 08:05:16 PM

R9 Nano mining results + power draw

This is pretty crazy especially considering that it's based on the same 28nm process as the Maxwell series.

As if GPU mining profitability taking a huge dive wouldn't be bad enough, AMD stomping on Nvidia once again is making things kind of sad.

agreed - but having that sort of competition is good ...

it makes improvements in code and sdk - such that the optimal performance will be standard and NOT just for the elite ...

good figures for the 980 btw ...

#crysx

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R9 Nano mining results + power draw

This is pretty crazy especially considering that it's based on the same 28nm process as the Maxwell series.

As if GPU mining profitability taking a huge dive wouldn't be bad enough, AMD stomping on Nvidia once again is making things kind of sad.

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Quote from: joblo on December 21, 2015, 01:06:37 PM

GPU: 980, +120 OC
OS: Win 8.1
Driver 359.06
r77-7.5 r74-6.5
x11 10.6 MH 10.8 MH
lyra2v2 11.8 MH 11.8 MH
Quark crashes the driver after a few minutes with r77 + 120 OC, stable with no OC. R74-6.5 with OC hashes
in excess of 21 MH while r77-7.5 without OC hashes below 20 MH.

When overclocking try to increase the TDP in the Bios.

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GPU: 980, +120 OC
OS: Win 8.1
Driver 359.06

r77-7.5 r74-6.5
x11 10.6 MH 10.8 MH
lyra2v2 11.8 MH 11.8 MH

Quark crashes the driver after a few minutes with r77 + 120 OC, stable with no OC. R74-6.5 with OC hashes
in excess of 21 MH while r77-7.5 without OC hashes below 20 MH.

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Quote from: joblo on December 20, 2015, 02:13:43 PM

Quote from: chrysophylax on December 19, 2015, 10:33:46 PM

Quote from: pallas on December 19, 2015, 10:13:54 PM

Quote from: Eliovp on December 19, 2015, 12:52:51 PM

Quote from: tbearhere on December 19, 2015, 11:49:17 AM

Quote from: sp_ on December 18, 2015, 07:11:43 PM

Good cards. But they draw 200-250w. The x11 kernal is not optimal. You should mine something else.

4 750ti's draw 260 watts.

4 R9 Nano's draw 400 watt while doing 11Mhz per card!.. Wink

Is that at the wall? My fury draws more than 300 watt, the single card! And it's the same chipset.

yup ...

apparently the nano has mixed specs of the fury x and fury - but with a much lower power draw - and a much smaller size mate ...

very impressive cards ... but very expensive cards

...

#crysx

980 performance in a half length card with only one 8 pin power connector, it's only a matter of time for someone
to build a 2x-nano.

Unlikley as Nanos are cherry picked FuryX's... When chips are binned you only get so many that operate at lower voltages and that's why the price is so high.

Quote from: serg_25 on December 21, 2015, 02:50:29 AM

Hi Guys. did you see that speed?

https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=news&id=53

damn... amd again can be more profitable than nvidia.
Look at X11 speed. 11.72mh with r9 280x.

P.S. wolf, is it your work on nicehash?

This is also unlikely to change anything. People that are mining on X11 currently all have private kernels and people that don't, don't mine it... So I suspect relatively little will change.

Although dangerous that R9-280xs from years ago are back in the running. Somedays I wish I still had my AMD rigs, then other days I realize I sold them because they gobbled too much power and there was nothing to mine with them when I sold them.

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Quote from: pallas on December 21, 2015, 04:40:11 AM

Quote from: serg_25 on December 21, 2015, 04:30:55 AM

Quote from: pallas on December 21, 2015, 04:23:44 AM

...and power consumption is not the same on all algos.

yep, on 750Ti. for me it starts from 38 - 43 watt based on algo.

on 280x as well: depends on ram usage and how well the kernel is optimised (and probably other factors).
it can easily swing from 150W to 200/220W.

Yes and he didn't have a true read out ....... all hand written.

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Quote from: serg_25 on December 21, 2015, 04:30:55 AM

Quote from: pallas on December 21, 2015, 04:23:44 AM

...and power consumption is not the same on all algos.

yep, on 750Ti. for me it starts from 38 - 43 watt based on algo.

on 280x as well: depends on ram usage and how well the kernel is optimised (and probably other factors).
it can easily swing from 150W to 200/220W.

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Quote from: pallas on December 21, 2015, 04:23:44 AM

...and power consumption is not the same on all algos.

yep, on 750Ti. for me it starts from 38 - 43 watt based on algo.

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...and power consumption is not the same on all algos.

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Quote from: sp_ on December 21, 2015, 03:37:15 AM

x11 has never been profitable on NVIDIA. Mine Lyra2v2 or quark. The optimized AMD kernals are slow and use alot of power.

When using Xintensity of 1024 the client will report higher numbers than on the pool. (bug in the kuchur bins)

You probably right.
To avoid "panic" i decided to make some calculation on "kh/s per watt" comparsion:
(750Ti vs 280x)
NVIDIA:

Code:

$speedx11 = 3.35;
$speedlyra = 5.135;
$speedquark = 6.9;
$watt = 40;

$speed* / $watt * 1000

result:
nvidia
X11 kh\s per watt 83.75
Lyra kh\s per watt 128.375
Quark kh\s per watt 172.5

AMD

Code:

$speedx11 = 11.72;
$speedlyra = 13.06;
$speedquark = 16.19;
$watt = 180;

result:
X11 kh\s per watt 65.111111111111
Lyra kh\s per watt 72.555555555556
Quark kh\s per watt 89.944444444444

Well, based on number 750 Ti is faster. Numbers can't lie.
P.S. please keep in mind that ofcourse we need to understand that it will be different money for full rig setup, but this difficult to calculate because all of us have different prices for cards (new or used one)

P.P.S. but amd also has benefit. you can mine eth with 280x.

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Quote from: sp_ on December 21, 2015, 03:37:15 AM

x11 has never been profitable on NVIDIA. Mine Lyra2v2 or quark. The optimized AMD kernals are slow and use alot of power.

When using Xintensity of 1024 the client will report higher numbers than on the pool. (bug in the kuchur bins)

i understood this, but with this bins difficulty on X11 , quark and lyra2rev2 will be start to the moon

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x11 has never been profitable on NVIDIA. Mine Lyra2v2 or quark. The optimized AMD kernals are slow and use alot of power.

When using Xintensity of 1024 the client will report higher numbers than on the pool. (bug in the kuchur bins)

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