Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 882. (Read 2347659 times)

well there are always up and down...

GTX970 +100 OC breaks 10MH on Fedora 20.

Vert was the first thing I have tried to mine with djms help. It is disappointing to see it fall by half since I started.

Quark   0.1656
Lyra2v2    0.1828


The mining profit for both quark and lyra2v2 are declining rapidly..

Vertcoin continues to fall. At the launch of the new lyra2v2 algo the coins marketcap was 100% higher that today..
Mona is also falling.(lyra2v2)

Sharkcoin has stopped falling.. Let's hope for a rebound

Tpruvot is adding my modded kernels now in his fork.(1.7) one by one. Nice. he keeps the compability with older cards too.

With my modded blake. quark was up 1MHASH on the gtx 960. So far Skein and Blake has been added. He need to add the rest of the kernals as well :-)

not sure what you are talking about, there is nothing "fierce" in either what I wrote nor Bensam (nor Wolf0), I am just "reacting" (and add some fun to the discussion) on the fact that Bensam is posting all the time about the miner with a fee. (and I never even said it was a bad idea... ).

ps: sarcasm always remains unnoticed... yeah I know... (irony too apparently)

  

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seems when all the algos are in the shitter, the arguing gets more fierce.

not again...  

(internet just ran out of facepalm meme)

regarding the startup, I think you overestimate the profit which can really be made... (not mentioning that a company would have to rely purely on altcoin (mostly shitcoin) value... looks to me as a very risky business model)
also most of the algos which really count have already been open-sourced, and most miners don't really upgrade their program on a daily basis...

imagine how would look that thread (or any open-source miner thread) if I or others had startups and had to keep them afloat...  

Anybody tested on linux yet?  what hashrates are you getting?

What hashrate to you get? Are you using linux and cuda 7.5?

When you're trying to convey a position it certainly helps, especially when you write something ambiguous which can be misinterpreted. Notice how I wrote a second paragraph just to make sure you didn't misread what I wrote?

And once again I'm not a developer, that's not my job. There are multiple jobs in the crypto scene and that's one of them. If I had a lot of money to throw around I'd definitely consider making a startup focused around a miner, but I don't as you already helped me lose a good amount of my initial investment in cryptos. Which is why I either have to deal with your shit and try to change your opinion on it or hope someone like Nicehash does something to help. I'm looking for something that makes everyone happy or at least content.

You could open an exchange and make money off fees there too if you wanted to! Why don't you do that and then use the profits to subsidize your ability to code? Oh wait, you have no interest in that and it's not your job.

Notice at no point did I say I wanted you to give me something for free? I'm even suggesting giving me what you already are, only I pay a fee. I'm offering to do something associated with my job, which is pay a fee.

Apparently because you aren't explaining things princess. I wrote two paragraphs on your one broken sentence. I'm not the one who isn't communicating.

I'm not sure what else "You'd get part of the miner fees..." would mean.


As a FYI release 72 uses 20w more power per 970 for the same hashrate as DJMs build.

I'm a miner, why would I get a portion of a miner fee? I didn't make any code. I want to use a miner fee as a way of contributing with my hardware. It's a donation. I don't want to get donated to. I just want to keep kernel makers employed so they'll keep making competitive kernels and a miner fee is the best way of doing this, so we wont end up in private miner shit valley where all the pub kernels are unprofitable and all the plebs like myself have to shut down and sell our hardware.

Just to set things straight. I would get NO portion of a miner fee. It's all for whoever is making the code. I'm a miner, I mine with hardware, I use the miner with the fee and I donate 2% of my hashrate. Preferably it would be split up among all the developers who contributed, but just getting developers to start accepting a miner fee as a alternative to selling private miners to big fat-cat farms is a start.

Why should I pay you to take my money? How entitled are you?

Just to make sure you read that right. I need to pay money for then again have you take more money.

I have bought private miners. I have donated to people. I don't know what else you're looking for here. I'm not paying more money for you then again to take more of my money. I don't think we have a clear differentiation of our job roles here princess.

Look lets use Nicehash as an example. They provide a service, they get paid for their service with fees for using it. They realize that they're essentially employing both miners and coin traders, therefore they want to keep both in business. They subsidize their work by paying for better miners that are openly available to everyone, so that the miners who aren't sucking enough kernel makers dick will still be able to keep their hardware turned on... Which at the end of the day will benefit Nicehash as well as everyone else.

It's win-win, even if they can't rape the pie like you guys want to do. In the end you're burning everything to the ground around you to build your little shit palace in the middle of it.

Yup, I know nothing about economics of cryptos or care about anything other then how much BTC I get paid in one large lump sum... and even then when people do offer me a lump sum I'll complain that it's not enough. You got me. (That is rhetoric and sarcasm BTW) That's the whole reason I try to cut back room deals with devs instead of knowing I'm not getting in their good graces to try and help everyone.

I know talking about things you don't like will make you hate me. I know that means you will more then likely never sell me a kernel, regardless of the fact that you say you'll whore yourself to whoever has money. I have a lot of money at stake here and I still do (whats left of it), even after you already fucked me with AMD kernels.

A miner fee doesn't benefit just me, it benefits everyone. I said I'd mine at 2% for SP if he added one to his miner. I really don't care if it doesn't include all the developers. I'd like it to include people like Pallas that helps quite a bit and everyone that contributed, but if no one actually wants to make a system where people get fed and instead no one does, I'll take what I can get.

You know DJM, there is a payment model that would scale based on the number of cards you have... it's called a miner fee. It involves a % which scales up and down. So the little guy with one 750ti is donating just as much from his one card as someone with hundreds of 750tis. It's the fairest of all models because of this.

You like double standards a lot don't you?


Prove it. Words ring hollow, your actions are what make you who you are.

I can say I'm a pretty rainbow unicorn fairy, that doesn't make me one.

Nicehash is a cloud mining service, no different then a pool. They ROI based off of a miner fee, which I've been pushing for... since... well you know. If their plebs gain more hash, so do they. It pays for them to keep their customers in business, much the same that it pays devs to keep miners in business. Apparently their scope isn't as nearly limited though.

If you think they're getting the bigger piece of the pie, well, perhaps you should consider adding a fee to your miner instead of taking a straight BTC bounty. Here I thought people were complaining about mining fees making no money too...

This completely puts aside the fact that the improvements aren't REQUIRED to work with their pool, which is how they get paid.


Yeah, I tried using this the other night, I didn't see a block in about thirty minutes or an accepted share so I stopped.


THIS is what a real company does... also why I said it's entirely possible for a company to be founded around mining development. It's just a small tip of the iceberg. I really don't think anyone has taken a look at how much 2% for a fee can add up to be. This is also how 'cloud mining services' that lease hash make their money.


It doesn't need to. Cryptos are all relative. If someone is producing the same amount of hash per unit (say a 280x or a 970) as someone else, that's the baseline it needs to be improved over. Ideal situation is one where kernels don't matter as everyone gets the same hashrate. They don't need to go to infinity, they just need to be as fast as the fastest kernel, which definitely could be done as the larger the hashrate increase, the more time that has to be spent on development and the less return that is received. Eventually developers will find it really hard to improve kernels, which is the best possible scenario.


Yeah, imagine what would happen if you took 2% of millions...

I don't think NicehHash's end game here is to purchase beer, but rather kickstart a competitive scene in the algo mining business. If miners go under, so does their business, that's why the're trying to stimulate growth with a injection.

I feel as though they really need to go outside of the community though and hire professional talent. It's hard to imagine them getting away from the greed and corruption in the mining community itself. I think they have the capital to do this as well. It's actually sorta interesting that they've chosen to offer a bounty on open source, rather then give out a miner with a 2% fee for instance.

In two pages we literally just saw meaty BTC bounties being offered and then the majority of the devs set fire to it because it competes with their private sales. That is the definition of price gouging.

People really need to take what a lot of the devs say around here with a grain of salt. Any open source or even public closed-source kernels compete with their private kernel sales and therefore they don't want it to happen. You can see the fat-cat big miners popping out from the wood work in the last couple pages too.



And yeah, I'm getting pretty close to shutting off my hardware as well. I hope after BTC prices equalize, vested interest goes back to alt coins, that's usually the way it works when there is a BTC pump, the rest of the cryptos get squeezed.

I agree, this needs a new thread. There needs to be more competition.

It's not my money Nicehash, but if I had the resources I'd definitely consider making a 2% fee public-private miner as a separate service from Nicehash (maybe with a .5% fee discount if used on Nicehash). The bounties need to be competitive with the amount of work it takes to make the increases too, which is why it sounds like everything is negotiable. Most developers really suck at dealing with money though (if you couldn't tell based on this thread), so it needs to appeal to them as well.

I'd actually say such a endeavor would greatly benefit the alt-coin crypto mining scene and would make you guys money as well. This is coming from someone who has had to restructure his mining operation two times already, from AMD hardware, to HD mining, back to Nvidia hardware, it's the same story every time. Private kernels are the ASICs of alt coins... Only there is no open market, so not everyone can buy them or even see them.

Hell, you could even make a marketplace for closed source kernels and make it so it drops into whatever mining program you want. People can see kernels available and purchase them there. THAT would even be a step in the right direction. Part of the problem right now is people can't even purchase the damn private kernels if they want to or know they exist.

Emotional developer 

Anyway, on my 980 card, I feel that I can get slightly better hashrate (50kH/s-100kH/s) if I max out the intensity:
intensity = 256 * 256 * 24;

Edit: Forgot to mention on lyra2v2 algo.