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Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 885. (Read 2347659 times)

legendary
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Please, try to understand that we will opensource all the jobs and miners will be able to use these improvements elsewhere, so it is not only exclusive work for us, but for community too. We do not benefit so much as for example, if we had closed source miner that could be used only on NiceHash.
in that case, your bounties are rather small...

I would like to pay you 2 BTC to make an opensource quark miner that does 45MHASH on the 980ti. (50%) faster. This is not a JOKE. This is a real offer.
If nicehash is also paying 2BTC you get 4BTC.
is it even possible ? (I mean one can't increase the hashrate to infinity...)
Also I never looked much into quark because an other dev was already working on it (ie yourself...) and was working on other things as well.

Quark highly unlikely, except if you manage to throw out 1/3 of instructions.

But algorithm like X11 is seriously underpowered on CUDA and this is where we have our interests in.

It also depends which GPUs do benefit. A kernel (and settings) optimized for broad specter of Maxwell cards (not only 750 ti and 970, but also for 950, 960, 980, 980ti and titan) is of course worth more.

and this is why i have been requesting this for months and months - even as a paid private miner - yet to no avail ...

requests are one thing - DOING is another ...

x11 and quark ( and neoscrypt ) are the 3 main algo we use here ... especially x11 as granite is x11 based ...

im amazed at some of the ideas that have been thrown around here - and ignored ... even more amazed at some of the requests ( yes by me also - public private or otherwise ) that also have been ignored ...

the issue is NOT development - but MONEY ( fiat ) ... hence my concern for the whole fiat side of this argument ...

to me - its NOT about money ... to you it IS about money ...

so where do we find a median between these two worlds? ...

i am now willing to work with those willing to work with me / us / thefarm ....

ill be back in the office in a few days ( i hope ) and have been working on a project that will change the way we work as a farm and will affect the way we mine also ... ill be working closely with the devs that are working with me on this - and they will benefit from the end product ...

why will they benefit from it? ... because THOSE devs are the ones putting the effort and time and code into it ...

while devs argue and fight one another - we ( mostly the community ) are trying to find a way to bring together the efforts ...

simply put - this will never work unless ALL the code is working together and improved and developed ( and redeveloped ) ...

hang on ... dont we have that already? .. i think we call it open source Smiley ...

if the community benefits from this overall - then what the hell are people squabbling about? ...

if you dont want something available to the public and dont want it touched by other devs - dont release it ... simple ...

if you release it on the opensource arena - what the hell is everyone arguing over when another dev CHANGES the code ( we are not even talking about improving or optimizing - just changes ) to suit their own uses AND benefits from it? ... the code is public - so why argue about it? ...

im an opensource advocate - BUT - will go private when the situation calls for it ...

with all this squabbling over code thats freely available on the open market to change and redevelop - regardless of whether you ask for donations for it or not - then im more than happy to go private and take thefarm to the those that are willing to help it grow and provide a different avenue of income for them ... the greedy ones - well - what can i say about those ... 'they' get their lump sum at the beginning and get no more ... those that are willing to 'invest' their time and effort and expertise - will reap the ONGOING rewards of their code and effort ...

this is why the amd side of thefarm is now EXCLUSIVE to the dev that is helping it happen ... the nvidia side - is still available ... and yet - no dev wants to run with it unless there is a larger sum upfront ...

not going to happen with me ...

while you all squabble over 'this and that' - there will be no winners except those that keep growing via mining with opensource products and private products ... merge your code and skillsets - and we will have some more wealthier devs on an ongoing basis ...

i have approached a couple of you devs - and only ONE has accepted to do anything about it ... greed is NOT good in this crypto arena ... its still too young and you have NOT cornered the market ...

and did i see that statement 'miners make millions'? ... really? ... wow ... i didnt know i was a millionare from mining ... that really is news to me ...

i respect devs that give and give and give ... which means most of the devs here ... but to keep arguing over the same stuff? ...

i know all ive said will be either argued or ignored ... and its of no consequence to me ... thefarm WILL keep growing - thefarm WILL continue to improve - i WILL make sure of it ...

but my whole intention to use it for the benefit of the devs of the community is becoming quite sullied now - and if there isnt a resolve in all the 'shit slinging' - ill be making the entirety of thefarm private ... the point is - if i am already thinking this way - then the farms that have already taken this route - have already seen this happen time and time again ...

this whole crypto scene was NEVER about fiat ... it was about the ALTERNATIVE means of payment to fiat ... satoshi devised it that way - and set it up that way ... and 'we' are pulling all 'back' to the fiat mentality ... seriously guys ...

ive had my rant now - and will probably be crucified for it ... but unless 'we' as a community work together - NONE of this will become 'great' and ALL of it will STILL be controlled by the governments and powers that this whole 'scene' was meant to alleviate ...

#crysx
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legendary
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Team Black developer
Only trolls on bitcointalk. 10 years ago I used to pay the trolls..
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legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Is that numbers are correct?who sold this kernels?

Maybe I made the AMD "Russian bins" The (KO)sure "Koshure"  bins

(the Knockout bins)

r9 280x hashrates:

x11: 7.1 MHASH
quark: 13 MHASH
Qubit: 12 MHASH
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legendary
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Waaaahaaa too much intrigue!!! . İ just can thank to  who have qualified participation to community..At this time i have been switched off my rigs cus of nothing worth to mine.it's gone for electricity already.


One 750ti mining lyra@5MHASH on windows with sp-mod 71  42watt
Nicehash prices (24h) 0,3025 *   0,005
gives: 0,0015125BTC=$0,420475 / day

powercost:

42*24/1000 *$0.1 = $0,1008


Profit:


 $0,420475
-$0,1008
-------------------------
$0.319675 per 750ti


With the current low prices the power cost is only 24% of the revenue. (With an electric price of 0.1$ per KWh)

1000 cards 319$ a day..

I live in Brazil. My powercost is 0.4$ KWh because of the peakhours and corruption and I am loosing money....
sr. member
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problem is the common man does not have access to free electricity.
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legendary
Activity: 2954
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Team Black developer
Is that numbers are correct?who sold this kernels?

Sale?

Why do you want to sell a legal money machine?


If a opensource kernal is not profitable, and the hashrate is high and the coin is profitable, somebody is earning alot of money.

sr. member
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The bounties are low, but bether than nothing..

Could be some easy picking in the opencl optimalizations because most of the sgminer kernels have been unchanged since last year. Most people are using wolf0's binaries anyway..

Neoscrypt Opensource r9 280x: 210kh

Wolf0 private: 630Kh ( ? ) Don't remember. been a while since I saw his ottrbut pics.

50% increase: 210kh->315kh (2BTC)
50% increase: 315kh->472.5kh (2BTC)
50% increase: 472.5->708,75 (2BTC)

With some work, wolf0 should be able to earn 6 BTC alone on his work on neoscrypt, but I guess he don't want to opensource it..

lyra2v2 opensource r9 280x 3.5MHASH:

50% increase: 3.5MHASH->5MHASH (2BTC)
50% increase: 5MHASH->7.5MHASH (2BTC)
50% increase: 7.5MHASH->11,25MHASH (2BTC)

Wolf0 should be able to earn 6 BTC alone on his work on the private lyra2v2, but I guess he don't want to opensource it..

And then there is quark.. I actually have made a kernel that does 4.5MHASH on the r9 280x.

quark opensource r9 280x 2MHASH:

2MHASH->3MHASH (2BTC)
3MHASH->4.5MHASH (2BTC)
4.5MHASH->6.75MHASH (2BTC)
6.75MHASH->10,125MHASH (2BTC)

wolf0 should be able to earn 8 BTC alone on his work on quark, but I guess he don't want to opensource it..

I could make 4 BTC.

What do you say Nicehashsupport? How much can you give me for an opensource quark kernal that does 4.5MHASH?





Is that numbers are correct?who sold this kernels?
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legendary
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Team Black developer
The sharkoin has been generating 60 + bitcoins everyday for months.

Etherum is burning 10% of that and want to go POS because of all the dumping from the miners.

Government logic

We are building a blockchain.. The money of the future..

Survival of the fittest..
sr. member
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Yep everything is in the shitter. I've turned off all but 3 of my 750ti cards.
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legendary
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Team Black developer
Look's like the profit in mining quark is declining.

The sharkcoin is down 10% on a million dollar volume.



Etherum is up on a million dollar volume



Still a 30 million loss for the the investors.
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legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Please, try to understand that we will opensource all the jobs and miners will be able to use these improvements elsewhere, so it is not only exclusive work for us, but for community too. We do not benefit so much as for example, if we had closed source miner that could be used only on NiceHash.
in that case, your bounties are rather small...
I would like to pay you 2 BTC to make an opensource quark miner that does 45MHASH on the 980ti. (50%) faster. This is not a JOKE. This is a real offer.
If nicehash is also paying 2BTC you get 4BTC.
is it even possible ? (I mean one can't increase the hashrate to infinity...)
Also I never looked much into quark because an other dev was already working on it (ie yourself...) and was working on other things as well.
Quark highly unlikely, except if you manage to throw out 1/3 of instructions.
But algorithm like X11 is seriously underpowered on CUDA and this is where we have our interests in.
It also depends which GPUs do benefit. A kernel (and settings) optimized for broad specter of Maxwell cards (not only 750 ti and 970, but also for 950, 960, 980, 980ti and titan) is of course worth more.

I think x11@4,5MHASH is possible on the 750ti(50%), but it is alot of work. Worth alot more than 2 BTC..

In sgminer everybody is mining with closed source binaries. Why don't you make another bounty without the opensource part. The binaries can be used everywhere anyway.. To beat the closed source binaries is difficult and alot of work.. Remember that wolf0 once had his 70% faster x11 sourcecode for sale for 50BTC. Everybody complained about the price, but today everybody is using his work because somebody stole it and published the binaries.

Dash and the other x11 algos have a Net hashrate of more than 200GHASH per day. Wolf0's binaries have generated millions of coins to the miners.
 
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Please, try to understand that we will opensource all the jobs and miners will be able to use these improvements elsewhere, so it is not only exclusive work for us, but for community too. We do not benefit so much as for example, if we had closed source miner that could be used only on NiceHash.
in that case, your bounties are rather small...

I would like to pay you 2 BTC to make an opensource quark miner that does 45MHASH on the 980ti. (50%) faster. This is not a JOKE. This is a real offer.
If nicehash is also paying 2BTC you get 4BTC.
is it even possible ? (I mean one can't increase the hashrate to infinity...)
Also I never looked much into quark because an other dev was already working on it (ie yourself...) and was working on other things as well.

Quark highly unlikely, except if you manage to throw out 1/3 of instructions.

But algorithm like X11 is seriously underpowered on CUDA and this is where we have our interests in.

It also depends which GPUs do benefit. A kernel (and settings) optimized for broad specter of Maxwell cards (not only 750 ti and 970, but also for 950, 960, 980, 980ti and titan) is of course worth more.
member
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Please, try to understand that we will opensource all the jobs and miners will be able to use these improvements elsewhere, so it is not only exclusive work for us, but for community too. We do not benefit so much as for example, if we had closed source miner that could be used only on NiceHash.
in that case, your bounties are rather small...

I would like to pay you 2 BTC to make an opensource quark miner that does 45MHASH on the 980ti. (50%) faster. This is not a JOKE. This is a real offer.
If nicehash is also paying 2BTC you get 4BTC.
is it even possible ? (I mean one can't increase the hashrate to infinity...)
Also I never looked much into quark because an other dev was already working on it (ie yourself...) and was working on other things as well.
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legendary
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@sp   I sent you a private message, why do not you answer?

I have answered now.
newbie
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@sp   I sent you a private message, why do not you answer?
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legendary
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I know that. I have other opensource works (crypto unrelated) in the same situation. Still I continue to write opensource programs. I just see past the direct and sudden profit.
BTW, I don't understand where you are going: you did release opensource code, didn't you?

Yes, and I don't complain when other people use and improve my work to get a few beers in tips.
I like opensource.
I believe opensource is the only  way to make this cryptocurrency thing work.
We need to spread the hash to avoid that the biggest farms get 90% of the network and the profit..
legendary
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nobody will use it
If we believe that nobody would use the improved kernel (just like you suspect), then of course, we are not interested to buy it.
We are only interested in improvements, that would be actually useful for large amount of miners. That is why it is important for which algorithm the improvement is.
I will provide info on my mining works by mail later.
BTW, I think you should create a new thread about this discussion.
Let's say I get a bounty of 6BTC from doing a quark kernal that does 10MHASH.
Would you be angry if I modify and use your groestl opensource and give you 0 BTC?
It happened already. It happens always with opensource. It's up to you if you wonna donate. If I didn't want people to use it, I wouldn't have opensourced it.
If by doing that you break the licensing, that's a completely different matter.
If you sleep well after doing that, that depends on your moral.

The private farms sleep well.
They earn millions and use your work without paying a dime.

I know that. I have other opensource works (crypto unrelated) in the same situation. Still I continue to write opensource programs. I just see past the direct and sudden profit.
BTW, I don't understand where you are going: you did release opensource code, didn't you?
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legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
nobody will use it
If we believe that nobody would use the improved kernel (just like you suspect), then of course, we are not interested to buy it.
We are only interested in improvements, that would be actually useful for large amount of miners. That is why it is important for which algorithm the improvement is.
I will provide info on my mining works by mail later.
BTW, I think you should create a new thread about this discussion.
Let's say I get a bounty of 6BTC from doing a quark kernal that does 10MHASH.
Would you be angry if I modify and use your groestl opensource and give you 0 BTC?
It happened already. It happens always with opensource. It's up to you if you wonna donate. If I didn't want people to use it, I wouldn't have opensourced it.
If by doing that you break the licensing, that's a completely different matter.
If you sleep well after doing that, that depends on your moral.

The private farms sleep well.
They earn millions. They migh use your work without paying you a dime.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Please, try to understand that we will opensource all the jobs and miners will be able to use these improvements elsewhere, so it is not only exclusive work for us, but for community too. We do not benefit so much as for example, if we had closed source miner that could be used only on NiceHash.
in that case, your bounties are rather small...

I would like to pay you 2 BTC to make an opensource quark miner that does 45MHASH on the 980ti. (50%) faster. This is not a JOKE. This is a real offer.
If nicehash is also paying 2BTC you get 4BTC.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
nobody will use it
If we believe that nobody would use the improved kernel (just like you suspect), then of course, we are not interested to buy it.
We are only interested in improvements, that would be actually useful for large amount of miners. That is why it is important for which algorithm the improvement is.
I will provide info on my mining works by mail later.
BTW, I think you should create a new thread about this discussion.

Let's say I get a bounty of 6BTC from doing a quark kernal that does 10MHASH.
Would you be angry if I modify and use your groestl opensource and give you 0 BTC?

It happened already. It happens always with opensource. It's up to you if you wonna donate. If I didn't want people to use it, I wouldn't have opensourced it.
If by doing that you break the licensing, that's a completely different matter.
If you sleep well after doing that, that depends on your moral.
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