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Topic: Chain-Bet.com | On Chain | No KYC | 15x Win | Provably Fair | Since 2016 - page 11. (Read 38506 times)

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Other website which using same concept of block hash end digit with a different way block-bet.info i played both of games ..chain-bet is bit risky as compared to block-bet .
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That is what exactly happened three months ago, when u pointed another player to the stated rules...

I think the problem lies in this transaction https://blockchain.info/address/1LYgyFk9X8y3dD7uQVhmGiGhC9acXzrJLo

you sent two transactions to the same address. If you read the rules of this game only the first transaction to one address counts as bet and the rest is considered as donation.


Yes I can remember. But only after massive protest by other users

Now, ask your own conscience, what u should do?

Simply, I do not have this amount left. Maybe it is better that I can not play at this site anymore.. This game made me kind of addicted Cheesy
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Spear the bees
Now, ask your own conscience, what u should do?

Site has no leverage on runz whereas players have leverage on the site.

Unlikely that the remainder will be returned to the site.
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All u have stated here are correct. You won a bet which was pending because the hot wallet did not have enough balance to pay u off. But, before we refill the hot wallet, we checked our previous payments and found something strange. In a previous winning of 0.57 BTC, the amount was sent to you twice! Yes U. Because, IP address from where that bet was placed and this one is same. That has made us to withheld your latest winning bet of 0.285 BTC.

You received 0.57 BTC twice at this address - https://blockchain.info/address/1NYbyQ44JLnZPK9uugF7rGSbVfRsqcP42y.

That may be true. But it is not my fault if your system is failing. I consider this double luck
What do u mean by double luck? You got double payment for a winning bet and kept all, i.e. the whole of 1.14 BTC?

If u do not return the rest of (0.57-0.285) BTC = 0.285 BTC to our hot wallet address https://blockchain.info/address/3BsadqM15YQFkoX8LUV7d8Kg8UUXNteiLi, we may open a scam accusation against u.

Because I was continuing playing your game I have already lost that amount. But anyway, I took big risk playing that game and I could have also lost all my coins. I think now it's time to just stop playing your game and move on to a bigger and more reliable gambling site like a lot of people mentioned in this thread.
You risked, won or lost within the game rules is immaterial here. If u have got extra due to system's mistake, then u r supposed to return it to the system.

Let's say I play this game and accidentally send my bet twice.. do you think I would get one back if I say this was by accident? I would rather ask myself why has this happened and take it as punishment for doing that bullshit. But screwing off a customer is never good.
That is what exactly happened three months ago, when u pointed another player to the stated rules...

I think the problem lies in this transaction https://blockchain.info/address/1LYgyFk9X8y3dD7uQVhmGiGhC9acXzrJLo

you sent two transactions to the same address. If you read the rules of this game only the first transaction to one address counts as bet and the rest is considered as donation.
But, u know what happened? Admin refunded the player...

Right now I think you should just send him back the 0.01 BTC since its a large amount and since his bet was also 0.01BTC, why would he want to donate 100% of his winnings, it doesn't make sense.

Refunded - https://blockchain.info/tx/0fb15e2392763f4fd5a4c25bb5ae56338394535ff1016da58c4ff745d2a3e145

Truly amazing; thank you.

Now, ask your own conscience, what u should do?
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All u have stated here are correct. You won a bet which was pending because the hot wallet did not have enough balance to pay u off. But, before we refill the hot wallet, we checked our previous payments and found something strange. In a previous winning of 0.57 BTC, the amount was sent to you twice! Yes U. Because, IP address from where that bet was placed and this one is same. That has made us to withheld your latest winning bet of 0.285 BTC.

You received 0.57 BTC twice at this address - https://blockchain.info/address/1NYbyQ44JLnZPK9uugF7rGSbVfRsqcP42y.

That may be true. But it is not my fault if your system is failing. I consider this double luck
What do u mean by double luck? You got double payment for a winning bet and kept all, i.e. the whole of 1.14 BTC?

If u do not return the rest of (0.57-0.285) BTC = 0.285 BTC to our hot wallet address https://blockchain.info/address/3BsadqM15YQFkoX8LUV7d8Kg8UUXNteiLi, we may open a scam accusation against u.

Because I was continuing playing your game I have already lost that amount. But anyway, I took big risk playing that game and I could have also lost all my coins. I think now it's time to just stop playing your game and move on to a bigger and more reliable gambling site like a lot of people mentioned in this thread.
You risked, won or lost within the game rules is immaterial here. If u have got extra due to system's mistake, then u r supposed to return it to the system.

Let's say I play this game and accidentally send my bet twice.. do you think I would get one back if I say this was by accident? I would rather ask myself why has this happened and take it as punishment for doing that bullshit. But screwing off a customer is never good.


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All u have stated here are correct. You won a bet which was pending because the hot wallet did not have enough balance to pay u off. But, before we refill the hot wallet, we checked our previous payments and found something strange. In a previous winning of 0.57 BTC, the amount was sent to you twice! Yes U. Because, IP address from where that bet was placed and this one is same. That has made us to withheld your latest winning bet of 0.285 BTC.

You received 0.57 BTC twice at this address - https://blockchain.info/address/1NYbyQ44JLnZPK9uugF7rGSbVfRsqcP42y.

That may be true. But it is not my fault if your system is failing. I consider this double luck
What do u mean by double luck? You got double payment for a winning bet and kept all, i.e. the whole of 1.14 BTC?

If u do not return the rest of (0.57-0.285) BTC = 0.285 BTC to our hot wallet address https://blockchain.info/address/3BsadqM15YQFkoX8LUV7d8Kg8UUXNteiLi, we may open a scam accusation against u.

Because I was continuing playing your game I have already lost that amount. But anyway, I took big risk playing that game and I could have also lost all my coins. I think now it's time to just stop playing your game and move on to a bigger and more reliable gambling site like a lot of people mentioned in this thread.
You risked, won or lost within the game rules is immaterial here. If u have got extra due to system's mistake, then u r supposed to return it to the system.
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All u have stated here are correct. You won a bet which was pending because the hot wallet did not have enough balance to pay u off. But, before we refill the hot wallet, we checked our previous payments and found something strange. In a previous winning of 0.57 BTC, the amount was sent to you twice! Yes U. Because, IP address from where that bet was placed and this one is same. That has made us to withheld your latest winning bet of 0.285 BTC.

You received 0.57 BTC twice at this address - https://blockchain.info/address/1NYbyQ44JLnZPK9uugF7rGSbVfRsqcP42y.

That may be true. But it is not my fault if your system is failing. I consider this double luck

If u do not return the rest of (0.57-0.285) BTC = 0.285 BTC to our hot wallet address https://blockchain.info/address/3BsadqM15YQFkoX8LUV7d8Kg8UUXNteiLi, we may open a scam accusation against u.

Because I was continuing playing your game I have already lost that amount. But anyway, I took big risk playing that game and I could have also lost all my coins. I think now it's time to just stop playing your game and move on to a bigger and more reliable gambling site like a lot of people mentioned in this thread.
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Ouch now chain-bet.com is scamming!
Nopes. We are not. Like we never did.


I would recommend anyone to stop playing here. Yesterday I won at chain-bet and the site did not pay out. Today I checked back and the admin removed my winning bet! Here are some screenshots that prove it.





here is the transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1JzrjxS7FgoGFVD2cd76NHhNDh7Lv6LFBd
All u have stated here are correct. You won a bet which was pending because the hot wallet did not have enough balance to pay u off. But, before we refill the hot wallet, we checked our previous payments and found something strange. In a previous winning of 0.57 BTC, the amount was sent to you twice! Yes U. Because, IP address from where that bet was placed and this one is same. That has made us to withheld your latest winning bet of 0.285 BTC.

You received 0.57 BTC twice at this address - https://blockchain.info/address/1NYbyQ44JLnZPK9uugF7rGSbVfRsqcP42y.


Btw. @RocketSingh and milewilda it seems like I was right when saying chain-bet has only one hot wallet. If you win more then the hot wallet has you get no payout.
We already clarified that part before...
Extremely sorry for the inconvenience caused. Due to frequent winnings, the hot wallet dried up. We keep monitoring the hot wallet every 24 hour. As it was filled in before, your winnings ware sent out by the system automatically.


I will also open a scam accusation against chain-bet when I have some more time...
If u do not return the rest of (0.57-0.285) BTC = 0.285 BTC to our hot wallet address https://blockchain.info/address/3BsadqM15YQFkoX8LUV7d8Kg8UUXNteiLi, we may open a scam accusation against u.


Meanwhile I would not play here until this is sorted out!
That's up to u. We know that u made good profit on chain-bet.com. If u play honestly, u may still make more. But, we wont bow down to any sort of extortion.
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Ouch now chain-bet.com is scamming!

I would recommend anyone to stop playing here. Yesterday I won at chain-bet and the site did not pay out. Today I checked back and the admin removed my winning bet! Here are some screenshots that prove it.





here is the transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1JzrjxS7FgoGFVD2cd76NHhNDh7Lv6LFBd

Btw. @RocketSingh and milewilda it seems like I was right when saying chain-bet has only one hot wallet. If you win more then the hot wallet has you get no payout.

I will also open a scam accusation against chain-bet when I have some more time...

Meanwhile I would not play here until this is sorted out!
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Anyone who Gained profits for  program

So... I made like 1,2 btc so far. I had some good, drunken nights with my profits but now I have not enough money to start playing again.
The next time I've got some bitcoin left I will definitely throw them at this site.
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Anyone who Gained profits for  program

If u look at the last 40 bets as visible on the board, a total of 0.675 BTC have been won as against 0.6455 BTC wagered. So, on an average, gamblers are on profit right now.
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Anyone who Gained profits for  program
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Here's some feedback from my side,
as I already stated, I like your game very much. One thing that is very annoying is the captcha which you have to solve every time you bet. Is there a possibility to change that?

What I also miss is the possibility to bet on the number next to the last of confirmation hash. Would be nice if you can implement that too.. I would enjoy to place one bet on the last number and one bet on the number next to the last Cheesy

Would be nice if admin could comment on that Smiley
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@OP Do u accept investment in the bankroll?
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Your experiences will not have any impact on the mathematics. Don't try to say the house edge is something it's not.

Today I tried safedice and lost it all Smiley But I won it back here... So maybe you can use your mathematics to increase your chance of guessing the right number Smiley

Congrats that you won something but it actually doesn't mean anything. You simply had bad luck when playing on Safedice and had good luck when you played on here.

I highly doubt you can find some edge, you can look at the blockchain and see if there are any numbers that appear consecutively and just don't bet on those to increase your chances or bet on the numbers that haven't appeared in a while.

Either way you can do the exact same statics with dice.

Sure I have luck at the moment.. I just don't see why people try to convince me to stop playing here and move on to some dice site.. Never stop a winning streak Cheesy

There is nothing wrong with this gambling site. The people who posted before are spreading FUD. The only thing that makes this site different from dice is that the house edge is a little higher.

Right now there is no way to cheat and withhold blocks to get a certain hex number. Yes its possible but mining farms are not going to give away full blocks of 12.5BTC+Fees just to cheat on this site. And FUDsters just keep complaining saying that its very easy to cheat and the site will lose its capital and become insolvent. Its ridiculous.

Who said anything about it being easy to cheat?

You. Here...

Although personally I'd be too skeptical to play here. The site is trivial for a miner to profitably (and undetectably) cheat...   (and even more so for a mining pool, which can cheat it's miners at the same time if they have to discard a block)
The very concept of miners can cheat profitably this game was debunked long ago. Check this thread for further info - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-random-the-last-digit-of-a-block-hash-really-is-1493510.

That thread didn't debunk anything - it just said that miners can't pick the block hash. However, they can still no broadcast blocks that contain a losing hash, and hope to get a winning hash. A bad actor pool might make a large bet on every character except one with a very low (possibly 0) fee. They can than use bitcoind to treat their tx as a 100 BTC fee transaction, so it would be added into the next block the pool finds. They can set it so the pool owner needs to check the block before it's broadcast to the network, and if it is a losing hash, they can chose to withhold the block (screwing the miners, but letting them be more likely to win).

I never said it was easy to do, and it's way more profitable to just earn off the pool fees than to try to win with Chain-Bet. Miners also get a "block found" notification if they are running cgminer on their local miner, so the pool that is trying to do that would have a lot to explain. The pool would also have bad "luck", driving people away and reducing the profits of the pool owner.

I stated that it was possible - never have I said that it was easy.
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Your experiences will not have any impact on the mathematics. Don't try to say the house edge is something it's not.

Today I tried safedice and lost it all Smiley But I won it back here... So maybe you can use your mathematics to increase your chance of guessing the right number Smiley

This is just a math problem here that we face when we gambling. This is matter of luck when it comes to gambling more over if you profit enough because, if there is an house edge this is pretty easy to calculated the chances but I do not think that will pretty much easy if you not in a luck mode. Although if you bet 15 times doesnt mean you will win once. Sometimes you will suffer more too. And btw congrats for your winning here
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Your experiences will not have any impact on the mathematics. Don't try to say the house edge is something it's not.

Today I tried safedice and lost it all Smiley But I won it back here... So maybe you can use your mathematics to increase your chance of guessing the right number Smiley

Congrats that you won something but it actually doesn't mean anything. You simply had bad luck when playing on Safedice and had good luck when you played on here.

I highly doubt you can find some edge, you can look at the blockchain and see if there are any numbers that appear consecutively and just don't bet on those to increase your chances or bet on the numbers that haven't appeared in a while.

Either way you can do the exact same statics with dice.

Sure I have luck at the moment.. I just don't see why people try to convince me to stop playing here and move on to some dice site.. Never stop a winning streak Cheesy

There is nothing wrong with this gambling site. The people who posted before are spreading FUD. The only thing that makes this site different from dice is that the house edge is a little higher.

Right now there is no way to cheat and withhold blocks to get a certain hex number. Yes its possible but mining farms are not going to give away full blocks of 12.5BTC+Fees just to cheat on this site. And FUDsters just keep complaining saying that its very easy to cheat and the site will lose its capital and become insolvent. Its ridiculous.

Who said anything about it being easy to cheat?

You. Here...

Although personally I'd be too skeptical to play here. The site is trivial for a miner to profitably (and undetectably) cheat...   (and even more so for a mining pool, which can cheat it's miners at the same time if they have to discard a block)
The very concept of miners can cheat profitably this game was debunked long ago. Check this thread for further info - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-random-the-last-digit-of-a-block-hash-really-is-1493510.

That thread didn't debunk anything - it just said that miners can't pick the block hash. However, they can still no broadcast blocks that contain a losing hash, and hope to get a winning hash. A bad actor pool might make a large bet on every character except one with a very low (possibly 0) fee. They can than use bitcoind to treat their tx as a 100 BTC fee transaction, so it would be added into the next block the pool finds. They can set it so the pool owner needs to check the block before it's broadcast to the network, and if it is a losing hash, they can chose to withhold the block (screwing the miners, but letting them be more likely to win).
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Your experiences will not have any impact on the mathematics. Don't try to say the house edge is something it's not.

Today I tried safedice and lost it all Smiley But I won it back here... So maybe you can use your mathematics to increase your chance of guessing the right number Smiley

I did, but it was sarcastic..
legendary
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Your experiences will not have any impact on the mathematics. Don't try to say the house edge is something it's not.

Today I tried safedice and lost it all Smiley But I won it back here... So maybe you can use your mathematics to increase your chance of guessing the right number Smiley

Congrats that you won something but it actually doesn't mean anything. You simply had bad luck when playing on Safedice and had good luck when you played on here.

I highly doubt you can find some edge, you can look at the blockchain and see if there are any numbers that appear consecutively and just don't bet on those to increase your chances or bet on the numbers that haven't appeared in a while.

Either way you can do the exact same statics with dice.

Sure I have luck at the moment.. I just don't see why people try to convince me to stop playing here and move on to some dice site.. Never stop a winning streak Cheesy

There is nothing wrong with this gambling site. The people who posted before are spreading FUD. The only thing that makes this site different from dice is that the house edge is a little higher.

Right now there is no way to cheat and withhold blocks to get a certain hex number. Yes its possible but mining farms are not going to give away full blocks of 12.5BTC+Fees just to cheat on this site. And FUDsters just keep complaining saying that its very easy to cheat and the site will lose its capital and become insolvent. Its ridiculous.

Who said anything about it being easy to cheat?
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