Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out - page 6.

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Quote from: applesRyummy on January 04, 2015, 09:06:24 PM

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Quote from: bracek on January 04, 2015, 06:20:12 PM

Charlie, buy some bitoin now with that money you said you had...

Buy bitcoin? I thought he was suppose to use the bitcoin he received from sales of physical coins?

Why don't you explain how him buying bitcoin to pay you would be fair?

Alright. Charlie agreed to sell the physical coins. He created the impression that they were an easy sell and that he had buyers lined up. Yet, months down the line bracek has not been paid for the sale. It is fair for bracek to get paid. How Charlie obtains the funds to pay is not that relevant.

Would you please explain how it is fair that bracek doesn't have his physical coins and didn't get paid for them either?

It would be very difficult to sell the physical coins unless you are very trusted. My impression of the situation was that barek approached charlie to sell the coins on his behalf and charlie is giving barek a premium over the value of the bitcoin in the physical coins. Charlie will need to sell the coins above both their face value and above the premium (or at the premium) that barcek is getting in order to pay him "back". Charlie has also paid money out of his own pocket in order to get the coins graded (getting coins graded is not free). He is providing barcek a service by selling the coins on his behalf.

If barcek were to have the physical coins in his possession then all he could do with them is hold them as if he were to spend the bitcoin in the coins they would lost the majority of their value

Your understanding of the stituation appears to be very poor. There, one more post for you to reply to on your signature spam run. Mind you, this is the last one I'm giving you.

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It is very simple: Charlie has not paid bracek the remaining balance of BTC owed to him for coins he has sold of has in his possession.

Charlie stood to gain from grading the coins as he could mark them up and get a larger cut should the grading be on the high end. I bet bracek could care less about grading and just wanted to sell the coins.

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Quote from: ABitNut on January 04, 2015, 08:49:50 PM

Quote from: applesRyummy on January 04, 2015, 08:00:14 PM

Quote from: bracek on January 04, 2015, 06:20:12 PM

Charlie, buy some bitoin now with that money you said you had...

Buy bitcoin? I thought he was suppose to use the bitcoin he received from sales of physical coins?

Why don't you explain how him buying bitcoin to pay you would be fair?

Alright. Charlie agreed to sell the physical coins. He created the impression that they were an easy sell and that he had buyers lined up. Yet, months down the line bracek has not been paid for the sale. It is fair for bracek to get paid. How Charlie obtains the funds to pay is not that relevant.

Would you please explain how it is fair that bracek doesn't have his physical coins and didn't get paid for them either?

It would be very difficult to sell the physical coins unless you are very trusted. My impression of the situation was that barek approached charlie to sell the coins on his behalf and charlie is giving barek a premium over the value of the bitcoin in the physical coins. Charlie will need to sell the coins above both their face value and above the premium (or at the premium) that barcek is getting in order to pay him "back". Charlie has also paid money out of his own pocket in order to get the coins graded (getting coins graded is not free). He is providing barcek a service by selling the coins on his behalf.

If barcek were to have the physical coins in his possession then all he could do with them is hold them as if he were to spend the bitcoin in the coins they would lost the majority of their value

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Quote from: applesRyummy on January 04, 2015, 08:00:14 PM

Quote from: bracek on January 04, 2015, 06:20:12 PM

Charlie, buy some bitoin now with that money you said you had...

Buy bitcoin? I thought he was suppose to use the bitcoin he received from sales of physical coins?

Why don't you explain how him buying bitcoin to pay you would be fair?

Alright. Charlie agreed to sell the physical coins. He created the impression that they were an easy sell and that he had buyers lined up. Yet, months down the line bracek has not been paid for the sale. It is fair for bracek to get paid. How Charlie obtains the funds to pay is not that relevant.

Would you please explain how it is fair that bracek doesn't have his physical coins and didn't get paid for them either?

And on a side note - if you're in the explaining mood already - why did you buy an account that has only 36 posts? Good luck on your posting spree to get some money out of that signature campaign.

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Quote from: bracek on January 04, 2015, 06:20:12 PM

Charlie, buy some bitoin now with that money you said you had...

Buy bitcoin? I thought he was suppose to use the bitcoin he received from sales of physical coins?

Why don't you explain how him buying bitcoin to pay you would be fair?

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Charlie, buy some bitoin now with that money you said you had...

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Quote from: KingOfSports on December 29, 2014, 10:21:38 PM

Doubt hes going to pay it. Probably gonna do his time and come out thinking he owes nobody as all will have forgotten (if thats the case couple years down the road).

I think the opposite way. By now he was under pressure, the jail will be a break for it, he will have time to think.
After being released from prison will become a "rehabilitated" and different, like the guys after military service become men

then he can start to resolve his debts to continue normal life.

If Bracek could wait success of BTC as early adopter, I think it is not difficult to wait for that scammer to come back and squeezed him in perhaps a more sophisticated way.

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Doubt hes going to pay it. Probably gonna do his time and come out thinking he owes nobody as all will have forgotten (if thats the case couple years down the road).

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Quote from: bitspill on December 25, 2014, 03:12:49 AM

Quote from: smoothie on December 22, 2014, 09:02:42 PM

Quote from: bitspill on December 22, 2014, 08:19:31 PM

I like how the people with the biggest mouths have the least involvement in the situation.

Just because I have no skin in the game is no reason for me not to care.

My reputation for over 3 years has been to call out the scammers that do shady dealings.

How big of a mouth do you have given you have posted in this thread that "doesn't involve you"? Roll Eyes

I didn't quote it in the other post, but this is the context of the above statistics. I was asked via PM what it was for, this way everyone knows.

To compose a list of this caliber it sure looks like you are attempting to be involved.

I still stick to my reputation on how I have dealt with scammers and shady dealings on this forum: Calling them out no matter who they are.

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Quote from: smoothie on December 22, 2014, 09:02:42 PM

Quote from: bitspill on December 22, 2014, 08:19:31 PM

I like how the people with the biggest mouths have the least involvement in the situation.

Just because I have no skin in the game is no reason for me not to care.

My reputation for over 3 years has been to call out the scammers that do shady dealings.

How big of a mouth do you have given you have posted in this thread that "doesn't involve you"? Roll Eyes

I didn't quote it in the other post, but this is the context of the above statistics. I was asked via PM what it was for, this way everyone knows.

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Pastebin: list of all posters in order.
Below: Count of each poster sorted by frequency.

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      64 | bracek
      38 | smoothie
      38 | Yankee (BitInstant)
      12 | Walter Rothbard
      11 | Rawted
       7 | ACCTseller
       7 | Blazedout419
       6 | malaimult
       6 | sublime5447
       4 | KingOfSports
       3 | bitcoin_bagholder
       3 | MrTeal
       3 | Stunna
       3 | swansong
       3 | TECSHARE
       3 | tmfp
       2 | BayAreaCoins
       2 | bbit
       2 | BIGbangTheory
       2 | bitspill
       2 | bluemountain
       2 | bobabouey2
       2 | Eisenhower34
       2 | EternalWingsofGod
       2 | Keyser Soze
       2 | moriartybitcoin
       1 | 5dollarbill
       1 | ABitNut
       1 | ashe
       1 | AT101ET
       1 | BadBear
       1 | bf4btc
       1 | BigBitz
       1 | bitgeek
       1 | brand
       1 | BTCfan668
       1 | calim
       1 | crazy-pilot
       1 | deluxeCITY
       1 | desired_username
       1 | drAGon925
       1 | drcore
       1 | evansearle42
       1 | exoton
       1 | FattyMcButterpants
       1 | jakedeez
       1 | justbtcme
       1 | LibertyRemains
       1 | MilesJohan
       1 | R2Pleasent
       1 | r3wt
       1 | s1lverbox
       1 | seedtrue
       1 | Snipe85
       1 | TikiShack
       1 | Velkro
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Quote from: smoothie on December 22, 2014, 09:02:42 PM

Quote from: bitspill on December 22, 2014, 08:19:31 PM

I like how the people with the biggest mouths have the least involvement in the situation.

Just because I have no skin in the game is no reason for me not to care.

My reputation for over 3 years has been to call out the scammers that do shady dealings.

How big of a mouth do you have given you have posted in this thread that "doesn't involve you"? Roll Eyes

good job Smoothie! keep up the good work.

and bracek I hope you get your btcs back.

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Quote from: bitspill on December 22, 2014, 08:19:31 PM

I like how the people with the biggest mouths have the least involvement in the situation.

Just because I have no skin in the game is no reason for me not to care.

My reputation for over 3 years has been to call out the scammers that do shady dealings.

How big of a mouth do you have given you have posted in this thread that "doesn't involve you"? Roll Eyes

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I like how the people with the biggest mouths have the least involvement in the situation.

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Quote from: moriartybitcoin on December 22, 2014, 05:59:07 PM

the guy with the 60 btc stolen by Shrem should watch his back .. most likely Chucky is talking to the US Attorney about all the people he did business with, and others will soon be arrested as he RATS THEM OUT

It isn't illegal to do business in the bitcoin world. Also he would likely have 'ratted people out' before he was sentenced in order to get a lesser sentence

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the guy with the 60 btc stolen by Shrem should watch his back .. most likely Chucky is talking to the US Attorney about all the people he did business with, and others will soon be arrested as he RATS THEM OUT

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