Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out - page 10.

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Quote from: swansong on December 11, 2014, 10:00:07 AM

he should have paid a long time ago.
even if he pays today, it shows me he is not a man of his word. even tho i don't know about OP, I am stressed for 60 BTC! it is a lot of money.

This is exactly how I see it.

Charlie Shrem is not a man of his word even though he may pay back this debt some day Roll Eyes

Very disappointing that he manipulated a user with his reputation to get something for nothing (in terms of not paying for what was sent to him even after he sold some of it.)

As I found the 25 btc coins were sold in August and were never paid to bracek even though they were sold.

This is robbing Peter (bracek) to pay paul (charlie's bills etc.).

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Quote from: swansong on December 11, 2014, 10:00:07 AM

he should have paid a long time ago.
even if he pays today, it shows me he is not a man of his word. even tho i don't know about OP, I am stressed for 60 BTC! it is a lot of money.

as I said long time ago,
he decided to cash in on his reputation here,

if you see in his feedback/reputation history,
my deal was his first bigger deal and he took off with the money

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he should have paid a long time ago.
even if he pays today, it shows me he is not a man of his word. even tho i don't know about OP, I am stressed for 60 BTC! it is a lot of money.

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thats shit load of bitcoin... 60 btc..

at least the op is attempting to pay back.. then nothing at all.

bracek

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I sent a link of this thread to his tweeter,
but I can't see/find it anywhere...

any idea why ?

tmfp

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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."

According to his Twitter feed, the coin shouldn't be a problem, looks like he's found "a good way".....

I'm interested in options, so I had a look at them, saw Belize in the t&c and read this standard stuff

"We're a bunch of bitcoin enthusiasts, traders and programmers who have been involved in the Bitcoin space from the very beginning."

I'm sure they're legit, but I wonder how many people have been involved in Bitcoin "from the very beginning". Thousands, if all the claimants are to believed.

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on November 19, 2014, 02:05:33 PM

Quote from: ACCTseller on November 19, 2014, 02:01:11 PM

]If you are paying interest and it will likely take a long time sell the two coins why don't you just send one of the 25 BTC coins back to braek to cover the majority of the rest of the debt?

It won't take a long time. I've already sent most of the physicals for grading or sold them. I can send them back to him, but by that time the debt will likely be paid.

The interest works in everyones favor. I am incentivized to pay him faster, and I've started the interest from 6 weeks ago to be fair.

Thanks

Charlie

Over two weeks and still no progress or communication from you.

Very bad as you keep claiming you are a man of your word yet you go silent when it matters.

A payment schedule you stick to would be the only thing I can see to salvage your reputation. Stringing things along longer and longer only makes you look more like a scammer.

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Quote from: smoothie on December 04, 2014, 11:52:52 PM

Bracek when was your last communication with Charlie? Via any means?

off this thread, maybe 2 months ago, I see no point in contacting him,
only public pressure...

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I had a feeling this would happen. This practically mirrors my interactions with Charlie/Bitinstant since Feb of 2013.

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Bracek when was your last communication with Charlie? Via any means?

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he said he will pay weekly (amounts of about 10 btc), on the day this thread was created...

my read was good all along, he is a scammer.
a fine one

that's the way you do it,
money for nothing...

any suggestions on how to turn the remaining debt into some kind of bounty ?
for fun, since he is having it from the beginning

it should get interesting if btc gains in value...

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Quote from: bracek on December 02, 2014, 09:59:59 AM

months are passing, no money coming in...

Did Charlie provide an actual payment schedule?

This seems to be an ongoing thing.

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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."

Quote from: bracek on December 02, 2014, 09:59:59 AM

months are passing, no money coming in...

What else can you do about it?
This thread only seems to be getting you unfulfilled promises....

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months are passing, no money coming in...

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Quote from: ACCTseller on November 19, 2014, 02:01:11 PM

]If you are paying interest and it will likely take a long time sell the two coins why don't you just send one of the 25 BTC coins back to braek to cover the majority of the rest of the debt?

It won't take a long time. I've already sent most of the physicals for grading or sold them. I can send them back to him, but by that time the debt will likely be paid.

The interest works in everyones favor. I am incentivized to pay him faster, and I've started the interest from 6 weeks ago to be fair.

Thanks

Charlie

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on November 19, 2014, 01:59:03 PM

Quote from: smoothie on November 19, 2014, 01:43:02 PM

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on November 19, 2014, 01:30:07 PM

Quote from: bracek on November 19, 2014, 01:23:08 PM

I am glad to see some final date on all of this,

but I doubt it will be over that easily...

Understood. I am going as fast as I can. I appreciate that its annoying to have to wait, so I offered interest every week.

I am paying you weekly interest (at 4.25% annually), this will make sure I pay you back as soon as possible. The longer it takes me the more I have to pay you

-Charlie

Just my two cents that I think what is fair is paying that interest rate for as long as the debt has been delayed to be repaid. Meaning weeks prior to this should account as well if that was not your plan originally posted earlier today.

I think its fair if we start the day Bracek PM'ed me to ask for the remaining 60 BTC (from the 2 coins) on October 4th. Thats 5 days before this thread was created. That means we are currently 6 weeks in.

According to: http://www.ginifab.com/feeds/compound_interest_calculator/?p=60&r=4.25&m=52.14&t=1&fv=62.60&rr=4.34

So, 60BTC at 4.25% annual compounding interest.

Year   Weeks   Starting Value   Multiplier   Interest Earned   End Value
0   1   60.00   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.05
0   2   60.05   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.10
0   3   60.10   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.15
0   4   60.15   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.20
0   5   60.20   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.24
0   6   60.24   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.29

Since I have paid back 24.7BTC out of 60BTC as of this morning, I currently owe:

60.29BTC - 24.7BTC = 35.59BTC

-Charlie

If you are paying interest and it will likely take a long time sell the two coins why don't you just send one of the 25 BTC coins back to braek to cover the majority of the rest of the debt?

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Quote from: smoothie on November 19, 2014, 01:43:02 PM

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on November 19, 2014, 01:30:07 PM

Quote from: bracek on November 19, 2014, 01:23:08 PM

I am glad to see some final date on all of this,

but I doubt it will be over that easily...

Understood. I am going as fast as I can. I appreciate that its annoying to have to wait, so I offered interest every week.

I am paying you weekly interest (at 4.25% annually), this will make sure I pay you back as soon as possible. The longer it takes me the more I have to pay you

-Charlie

Just my two cents that I think what is fair is paying that interest rate for as long as the debt has been delayed to be repaid. Meaning weeks prior to this should account as well if that was not your plan originally posted earlier today.

I think its fair if we start the day Bracek PM'ed me to ask for the remaining 60 BTC (from the 2 coins) on October 4th. Thats 5 days before this thread was created. That means we are currently 6 weeks in.

According to: http://www.ginifab.com/feeds/compound_interest_calculator/?p=60&r=4.25&m=52.14&t=1&fv=62.60&rr=4.34

So, 60BTC at 4.25% annual compounding interest.

Year   Weeks   Starting Value   Multiplier   Interest Earned   End Value
0   1   60.00   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.05
0   2   60.05   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.10
0   3   60.10   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.15
0   4   60.15   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.20
0   5   60.20   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.24
0   6   60.24   0.0815113156885 %   0.05   60.29

Since I have paid back 24.7BTC out of 60BTC as of this morning, I currently owe:

60.29BTC - 24.7BTC = 35.59BTC

-Charlie

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on November 19, 2014, 01:30:07 PM

Quote from: bracek on November 19, 2014, 01:23:08 PM

I am glad to see some final date on all of this,

but I doubt it will be over that easily...

Understood. I am going as fast as I can. I appreciate that its annoying to have to wait, so I offered interest every week.

I am paying you weekly interest (at 4.25% annually), this will make sure I pay you back as soon as possible. The longer it takes me the more I have to pay you

-Charlie

Just my two cents that I think what is fair is paying that interest rate for as long as the debt has been delayed to be repaid. Meaning weeks prior to this should account as well if that was not your plan originally posted earlier today.

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Quote from: bracek on November 19, 2014, 01:23:08 PM

I am glad to see some final date on all of this,

but I doubt it will be over that easily...

Understood. I am going as fast as I can. I appreciate that its annoying to have to wait, so I offered interest every week.

I am paying you weekly interest (at 4.25% annually), this will make sure I pay you back as soon as possible. The longer it takes me the more I have to pay you

-Charlie

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