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Topic: China Continues to Tear Down Crosses From Zhejiang's Churches (Read 11171 times)

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more horrible is that the world keeps in silence when china government did this kind of bullshits  Angry Angry Angry Angry
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I feel bad for those people crying, who have an emotional attachment to their religion, but at the same time religion is so dumb. At least it's not one religion in power trying to destroy another, because then the lower IQ members of that religion will feel justified in hurting those Christians. With the Chinese government I get the vibe that it's more of a practical, lets ban all religion to prevent future chaos kind of thing. It's feels like it's more about being emotionless practical vs, obsessively following another religion causing rage against another religion. It's hard to explain.
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fuck  china government
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China's Zhejiang Bans Religious Activities in Hospitals as Crackdown Widens

2016-08-18

Authorities in the eastern Chinese province of Zhejiang have banned all forms of religious activity in hospitals in an ongoing crackdown targeting the region's burgeoning Protestant Christian community.

A public notice posted at the Central Hospital in Zhejiang's Wenzhou, a city that has been dubbed "China's Jerusalem" because of its high concentration of Christians, made patients and their visitors unequivocally aware of the new rules this week.

"Religious activities are banned in this hospital," the notice said. The Wenzhou Central Hospital was originally set up as a Protestant hospital.

An employee who answered the phone at the same hospital on Thursday confirmed the new measures.

"Religious activities in hospitals have never been encouraged ... but some people have been doing it on the quiet, which is understandable, seeing that we are all here to support patients," the employee said.

The new rules don't just ban patients from carrying out religious activities like prayer or preaching; they also prevent ministers or pastors from holding prayer meetings for patients in hospital.

"Some people were really giving it their all, praying aloud and reading out the Bible," the employee said. "That's not allowed."

"The order is shown to patients when they are admitted to hospital telling them that no religious activities are permitted in the hospital," the employee said. "If they do that here, then the nurses and doctors will have a word with them."




Further interference

Guangzhou-based pastor Ma Ke, of the southern city's Guangfu Church, said the rules represent further state interference with freedom of religious belief in China.

"They are interfering with people's religious beliefs, which is against the constitution ... because Chinese citizens should have the freedom to choose their religion, or to have no religion," Ma told RFA.

"I think it's perfectly normal ... people depend psychologically on their religious beliefs to a certain extent," Ma said. "If they are dying, for example, they know that they have nothing to fear."

"Religion empowers people ... to be more optimistic and accepting of their treatment program," he said. "It helps them face up to times of illness, and also to face up to their own mortality."

An employee who answered the phone at the Zhejiang provincial religious affairs bureau declined to comment, saying they didn't know much about the issue.

The ban comes after a province-wide crackdown on churches and an urban "improvement" campaign which has seen crosses removed from dozens of buildings.

Earlier this year, Zhejiang Protestant pastors and married couple Bao Guohua and Xing Wenxiang of the Holy Love Christian church were sentenced to 14 and 12 years' imprisonment respectively by the Wucheng District People's Court in Zhejiang's Jinhua city after they opposed the removal of crosses.

Police-run detention centers in the province have also denied family members’ requests to deliver Bibles and food to the detained, according to the U.S. State Department's 2015 religious freedom report.




'Hostile forces'

Meanwhile, the authorities view many forms of religion as dangerous foreign imports, with Zhejiang officials warning last year against the "infiltration of Western hostile forces" in the form of religion.

And the crackdown looks set to intensify and widen to other regions of China.

Zhejiang has been lauded by the ruling Chinese Communist Party's ideological arm, the United Front Work Department, for "tackling ... the difficult-to-tackle problems, grasping norms, strong management and promoting harmony and stability," according to a report on the official website of the State Administration for Religious Affairs.

Furthermore, this "new situation in religious work" will require an even stronger policy response, the article said, adding that responses will be "problem-oriented, targeted, and pay attention to guidance."

Bob Fu, founder of the U.S.-based Christian rights group ChinaAid, said the Zhejiang crackdown is now being extended into other provinces, including Anhui and the northern region of Inner Mongolia.

"The Chinese government is taking its persecution of religious believers to another level," Fu said.

"They are doing it in the name of the rule of law, but actually it's very clear that there is an element of wanting all religion to be Chinese in character," Fu told RFA in an interview on Tuesday.

"The international community should be aware that are stepping up the pressure on religious practice, so that there is gradually less and less freedom," he said.

The State Department appears to agree with Fu, saying in its latest report that Beijing continues to exercise state control over religion, restricting the personal freedom of religious believers.

It cited a 2012 Pew Research Center report estimating that China is now home to some 68 million Protestants, of whom 23 million worship in state-affiliated churches, and some nine million Catholics, 5.7 million of whom are in state-sponsored organizations.

Reported by Lee Lai for RFA's Cantonese Service, and by Qiao Long for the Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.


http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/religious-08182016132355.html
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I do not think any government has the right to infringe on the beliefs of another person, provided no one is being hurt. This is a clear violation of the legal human right; the right to believe whatever I want, provided I'm not hurting another person.

Christianity has been persecuted down through the ages, Chinese Christians will survive this one as well. It's just a trial.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS


SUPPORT CHINESE CHRISTIANS
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There isn't any doubt about his existence as far as I know. There're records of his existence. But not of him ordering a crucification of Jesus (other than the Bible, that is)...
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Pilates existed, so did Herod, but that proves nothing about Jesus. Actually Herod proves it to be wrong, as he died on 4 b.C., 4 years before the supposed birth of Jesus. Also the census, that xtians are celebrating now, happened by 6 a.C. Means that by 9 a.C. a guy dead for 15 years ordered to chase children... sounds legit!

"Oh but the son and successor of Herod was also Herod"... right, but Matthew 2:22 says:
«But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning in Judea in place of his father Herod,...»
This leaves no doubt about who it talks about.

This historical incoherence comes from the fact that your religion was actually MADE UP by 50 a.C. by Saul of Tarsos (Paul) and its first historical reference would come by Josephus at the end of I Century a.C. (or after Nobody to be more accurate)


"Pilates existed."

Where did you go to school?


Best regards.
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What evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed? The first references to him appears some 70 years after his death and there's no record of any crucifixion of such person ordered by Pilates.
Jesus most likely is just a character in the romance we call the Bible - we know for sure that many stories of the Old Testament were assorted Middle Eastern legends rewritten to have a Jew as the main character.

Pilates existed and the proof is there already.

http://www.bible-history.com/empires/pilate.html

Pilates existed, so did Herod, but that proves nothing about Jesus. Actually Herod proves it to be wrong, as he died on 4 b.C., 4 years before the supposed birth of Jesus. Also the census, that xtians are celebrating now, happened by 6 a.C. Means that by 9 a.C. a guy dead for 15 years ordered to chase children... sounds legit!

"Oh but the son and successor of Herod was also Herod"... right, but Matthew 2:22 says:
«But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning in Judea in place of his father Herod,...»
This leaves no doubt about who it talks about.

This historical incoherence comes from the fact that your religion was actually MADE UP by 50 a.C. by Saul of Tarsos (Paul) and its first historical reference would come by Josephus at the end of I Century a.C. (or after Nobody to be more accurate)
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Wow, so liberal country, they don't touch photographers.
Taking pictures in Europe is a real problem, when autorities are in action.
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today  Shizhu Church Tai zhou in china  Angry



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In USA tribunals sell out christian church property to pay victims of criminal activity of such group of Jew God woodo-zombie style belivers, so cutting them a cross is not the badlies thing.

But You pointing allways on China. So, You will hide the large violations of penal code in cristian "churches of pedophilia" around the World by Your flooding here?

Put here the pictures of shit christian money addicted "church" buildings in United Emirates, they have no crosses on the top of building too.
The only one superior like church have the cross exposed.

Write some teaching to that country, how they need living with respect with Your vision, Master msc_de.
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Why You are thinking, that in Your Home are no fonts of radiation in dangerous levels too?

Yesterday night i have seen a van on the street, with writed "human organ transportation", i have thinking about You, that German Falun Gong zombie members have cut You alve for producing fake evidence of persecutions.

There are municipal, statal and private services, that execute some basic surveilliance.
The sadliest thing is when such font located near slipping position of the victim body.

But You certainly are thinking, that Falun Gong exercises are stronger as such extraterrestrial activity on the Earth.
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Why You are thinking, that in Your Home are no fonts of radiation in dangerous levels?

Why You are thinking, that in Your Home are no fonts of radiation in dangerous levels too?
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FUCK OFF CHINA 610 office member

Why You are thinking, that in Your Home are no fonts of radiation in dangerous levels?
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if you have read the bible you would understand

WoW.
The bible of brainwashing Master Li?


FUCK OFF CHINA 610 office member
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if you have read the bible you would understand

WoW.
The bible of brainwashing Master Li?
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Here is the proof - If God exist (or Gods) - he must remove this message.

If not - all "cristians" (and momo-poli theists) are fooled.

That is not what God is all about, if you have read the bible you would understand
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this is almost the same as ISIS did, this is national terrorism against religion freedom
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