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Topic: China Continues to Tear Down Crosses From Zhejiang's Churches - page 6. (Read 11171 times)

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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.
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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!
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Activity: 504
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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light
hero member
Activity: 754
Merit: 500
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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.




if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
hero member
Activity: 754
Merit: 500
1xBit the largest casino
Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.
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Yeah but too bad most of the real words have been lost.

Jesus was buddhist so it's kinda sad to see chinese people getting branwashed into christianity.



That's not true. Jesus was Jewish.

My Faith in Jesus Christ our Lord is not so strong but saying that Jesus Christ our Lord was something different from Jewish (N-word, buddhist, others...) is not going to give an hint on my personal Faith problem.


Thank You and best regards.



PS: BYTW chinese people are brainwashed into atheism not christianity.
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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

True Christianity is not about making money, as it says the money is the root of all evil and the rich men will have a harder time getting into heaven. Don't get the churches' Christianity mixed up with what the bible actually says.


Yeah but too bad most of the real words have been lost.

Jesus was buddhist so it's kinda sad to see chinese people getting branwashed into christianity.

That's not true. Jesus was Jewish.
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...omissis...

Jesus was buddhist ...omissis...

WTF?
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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

True Christianity is not about making money, as it says the money is the root of all evil and the rich men will have a harder time getting into heaven. Don't get the churches' Christianity mixed up with what the bible actually says.


Yeah but too bad most of the real words have been lost.

Jesus was buddhist so it's kinda sad to see chinese people getting branwashed into christianity.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

True Christianity is not about making money, as it says the money is the root of all evil and the rich men will have a harder time getting into heaven. Don't get the churches' Christianity mixed up with what the bible actually says.
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Activity: 754
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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.
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Human races have nothing to do with religions. Nobody is black or white for being Muslim or Christian!
Religions played a role to bootstrap complex societies, but today they do more harm than good. Is like keeping an Autoexec.bat over an UEFI OS.

But I second you: study it, but beware, NEVER study just one! Study one and you'll be hooked for life, study two and you'll be done with it in 10 minutes.

The word "race" cannot be applied to human species cause Fascism/Nazism lost Second World War.

When talking about human species you need to talk about ethnicity which has nothing to do with science, it has more to do with sociology and theology.

Human species are divided into 3 groups: Semitic, Hamitic, Japhethites (Gen, 10)

If you call them races I don't blame it. The word is correct for me.
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Religion : human races ancient communities = Economy : currencies

If you don't understand religion don't blame it: study it!


The Emperor: a man that cannot handle faith.

Human races have nothing to do with religions. Nobody is black or white for being Muslim or Christian!
Religions played a role to bootstrap complex societies, but today they do more harm than good. Is like keeping an Autoexec.bat over an UEFI OS.

But I second you: study it, but beware, NEVER study just one! Study one and you'll be hooked for life, study two and you'll be done with it in 10 minutes.
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Obama is Christian or not? i think he isnt

I don't think so.
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Obama is Christian or not? i think he isnt
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free lawyer Zhang Kai
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according to the information from Fr. Francis Jonathan (@FRJonathanLiu)on twitter , chinese christian lawyer ZHANG kai and his assistant LIU peng were arrested in the midnight

on 25.8.2015 in Xialing church Zhejiang provience.
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China Detains Lawyer in Zhejiang Amid Ongoing Cross Demolition Program
2015-08-26 



Lawyer Zhang Kai (C) is shown with two assistants in Wenzhou, Aug. 25, 2015.
Photo courtesy of an RFA listener.


Authorities in the eastern Chinese province of Zhejiang have detained a top Beijing rights lawyer who was advising local Christians in their bid to resist the demolition of crosses from local churches.

Zhang Kai had recently been based in the coastal city of Wenzhou, known as "China's Jerusalem," to offer pro bono advice to more than 100 Protestant churches facing the removal of their crosses and the detention of pastors, lay preachers, and church members.

"They did it on the quiet, in the middle of the night," a member of Xialing Church in Wenzhou told RFA on Wednesday. "They didn't tell anybody in our church that this would happen."

"By the time we got there, he had already been taken away."

The church member said many people were concerned about Zhang's fate.

"He was acting as adviser to more than 100 churches," he said.

A second Protestant church member from the region said Zhang was detained at the same time as a group of preachers and pastors.

"They moved in simultaneously in different locations," the church member said. "They took the preachers at the same time as Lawyer Zhang."

A police officer who answered the phone at the nearby Lucheng district police department in Wenzhou declined to comment.

"I haven't received any information about this," the officer said.



Call for release

Meanwhile, the head of the Xinqiao law firm in Beijing, Yang Xingquan, issued a statement on Wednesday condemning Zhang's detention.

He said two legal assistants had been detained at the same time by the Wenzhou authorities, and called for their immediate release.

Yang said he planned to travel to Wenzhou in a bid to inquire after the detainees and to represent them.

Wenzhou police also held preachers Wei Wenhai, Zhou Jian and Cheng Congping of the city's Tengqiao Protestant parish on Wednesday for questioning.

Yongqiang parish preacher Wang Yunxian and pastor Yan Xiaojie of the Divine Evangelist group were also summoned, apparently for questioning.

And the wife of Zhang Chongzhu, a pastor from Wenzhou's Pingyang county, said her husband had been taken away on Wednesday by state security police.

"He was taken away on a summons ... at around 1.00 p.m.," Zhang's wife said, adding that no reason was given by officers who took him away.

"Pastor Hua Licheng was also placed under house arrest today," she added.



Civil disobedience campaign

Churches have waged widespread civil disobedience campaigns in the face of a cross demolition campaign launched by the ruling Chinese Communist Party in Zhejiang in recent months.

The removal is part of a three-year urbanization and beautification campaign, which orders local governments to "revise" old neighborhoods, old industrial sites, and urban villages and demolish illegal structures by the end of 2015, official media have said.

Zhejiang authorities have said they are merely “relocating” the crosses from the roofs of churches to the interior.

But churchgoers have written open letters, sung hymns to armed security officers, staged sit-ins in churches and on rooftops, and displayed small red-painted wooden crosses across the province in protest at the move.

Churches are also being subjected to audits and financial reviews, with some pastors detained on suspicion of "embezzlement" after they resisted the demolition of crosses.

Xu Songgui, a youth leader at the Tianchang church in Wenzhou's Zeya township, said that "Document No. 7" issued by the Wenzhou municipal government had ordered the audits.

"They came here yesterday to check through our accounts," Xu said. "We have to finish the audit by Aug. 28."



'Unprecedented'

He said the audits were unprecedented.

"Such a thing has happened here in more than a dozen years," Xu said. "I don't know if the civil and religious affairs bureau even has the right to check our accounts under law."

But he said the church is cooperating nonetheless.

"This is a priority document, which means that any attempts to obfuscate or cover up could lead to criminal prosecution," Xu said.

President Xi Jinping warned ruling Chinese Communist Party ideologues earlier this year that the development of religion in China, which is already closely controlled by an army of religious affairs officials, should be "independent of foreign influence."

Citing the rapid expansion in Christian believers since churches began to reopen in the wake of the political turmoil of the Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), Xi has described religion as a tool that can easily be used "by hostile foreign forces."

Reported by Yang Fan for RFA's Mandarin Service, and by Hai Nan for the Cantonese Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/lawyer-08262015111356.html
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