Topic: China says it will trade normally with Russia - page 2. (Read 651 times)

Maybe, this is the reason why Putin is confident about waging war with Ukraine because if nothing else, China is still on their side and they will survive even if all the other countries in the world will sanction them. But the ones who is suffering from this war, are the people under his regime. I am thinking that maybe sooner, these Russian people will have an uprising against Putin. If their people will unite, I think, they can remove Putin from his throne.

Yeah, its all about business. China is a businessman and they jusf want to make money. They dont hold a gun to anyone's head and make them sign deals. Bags of cash maybe but not force Aside from that China is already Russia's primary trading partner. Sanctions or no sanction that will no change for a long time. As long as Russia provides China with cheap natural gas, nothing will happen to their relationship.

There's no way for China to join the boycott! As Arallmuus says, they have their goals set long ago... and I also agree that this could happen in the near future for China to take a step towards Taiwan! It would not be strange at all for them to do that soon, while the US is focused on Europe and Ukraine! But who will know what's in their heads, China is playing smart in the last decades, they are spreading their influence where they can, showing teeth here and there! On top of all that they like to counter the Americans in any way, whenever they can, to me it seems impossible for China to make a move against Russia!

If we see later that it is a bright spot that Russia has provoked NATO, including the US, to intervene, then Russia has a strong reason to launch an attack on NATO countries. If indeed insist on taking Ukraine to join. It seems we are all getting tired of how news stories are everywhere about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And not a few witnessed the impact felt by the citizens of Ukraine and Russia itself who experienced heavy sanctions. until I saw some Russian citizens say the prices of basic commodities and food have increased dramatically in the market due to the sanctions imposed by European countries.

China will not invade Taiwan, its already China. The people in Taiwan are Chinese themselves, been there same in Hongkong. Seeing the distruction of war, the Chinese would prefer Taiwan to join with them intact since the world needs the production of micro chips which China also wants to grab the market.

If they will plan a strtegy, Xijinping will rather prolong the war in Ukraine by supporting Putin with whats needed for their country to last for months to years so the whole Europe will feel the effect of sanctions. They know Europe is on the crossroad when they decide in supporting Ukraine.

What ways can Russia take if the security of its country is disturbed by NATO by getting closer to Ukraine, if the Ukrainian president chooses a neutral path and does not take sides, Putin will not take this worst decision.  The invasion that was carried out would also have an impact on the people, the economic sanctions that occurred even though the Russian government must have thought of a solution still made it difficult for the people.  The Ukrainian president is also too egotistical so that the people are the most disadvantaged.  NATO does not need to be approached, so what?  at least they are independent that they have to ask for security protection from NATO.

The thing that triggered Russia is the application of Ukraine for NATO which is absolutely their right as an independent country. Russia sees this as a threat since the US and NATO has been expanding to the east a lot over the years and even got missile assembly on poland and Romania. I may not know a lot of things though, this is just how I understood things with what I have read. And of course no country leader wouldn't protect its countrymen, if not for the sake of the people, then for the sake of own's ego or legacy. And this very ego is what led US to do more than what they have already done.


I sure hope that it really doesn't escalate to another world war. About the supplying, indeed there are supplies, the problem is manpower. No one wants to send any troops to help Ukraine because this may just lead into an all out war and may just turn into ww3. Russian government won't easily fire at anyone unless it really is necessary IMO, they already have enough problems in their hands so to speak.


No one is naive and they are well aware of their actions. And even if there is really a benefit in blaming sides, I doubt it would change things as they already are nor bring back the lives and properties lost. China is a freaking bully. South china sea barely even counts as theirs territory wise. Even the tribunal ruling says so but they still insist on what they want like they don't care at all. Now although Russia and China are in good terms at the moment, I don't think it is an enough reason for Russia to openly support China. It would mean more problems for Russia by then.

Putin isn't the smartest. If he's smart enough, then he might've made other plans to restrict Ukraine, but what he did all of the sudden is the reality of his smartness. European nations were much dependent on Russia, now closing the doors will cause European countries a big blow. Always there will be neighbouring countries. So the oil and gas deal will happen through a third country that acquires and sells back to European nations.

The Chinese government has a very clear idea of what they want to do and it is clear they never had any intention of sanctioning their ally, and if anything they may even offer support to Russia as a way to try to strengthen their economy.

To me this is a very clever strategy by the Chinese, while both the US, their allies and Russia get weaker due to the sanctions, China does not suffer at all and keeps growing and becoming stronger while they bid their time and wait until they can make their own strategic moves.

 Except, for the fact that the Russian economy is tanking, the ruble is tanking, the stock market is not open for obvious reason but the moment it is then it will crash and people will see the reality of how much, which will drop the ruble even more. The fact that people can't take more than 10k dollars out of their nation, the people who study abroad are sent back, the teams are kicked off the competitions, and many many many more sanctions are laid onto them. I am sorry but if you think that Putin is managing this well, then you are ignorant to all the things that are happening right now in Russia as well as all the future threats to the people of it as well. Putin may do fine, and some oligarchs maybe do fine in the end, but regular people are suffering because of the decisions Putin made, who is someone people did not vote for and get elected in fraud elections.

Putin is one of the smartest presidents in my opinion because no matter how their economic condition is sanctioned by the world, they will still survive because Europe's oil supply is 40% supported by Russia.  How can a decision that Europe has taken not be so fatal to Russia?  That's because Russia's preparations to face this condition have actually been able to bear the existing burden.  Assess the effect of the United Nations on the country of influence.

But now NATO is secretly not playing games, moreover, the US will always take advantage of other countries' wars and enter like a hero. What if the war was designed by the US to draw Ukraine into NATO and make the country a military base on the border between NATO and Russia. Hence the mainstream media will continue to corner Russia in this regard. In fact, if viewed from its history, the US has a big sin for the Middle Eastern country.

Well that's pretty much what they can only do anyway. Haven't checked the news again but I suppose NATO is still playing safe and just preparing in case Putin gets greedy and launch attacks with its puppet Belarus.

And yes China will invade Taiwan, it's not a matter of if but of when. People just keep mentioning it since China can take the opportunity if NATO get its hands tied up in Ukraine and it breaks out into a larger conflict.

I'm not surprised at all to see china act like this because this reaction from china is completely normal and according to what we know and what we already saw about them, China cares about international trades mich more than anything else actually what how we are one of the strongest economic powers in the world, in the other while all other countries are trying to blame Russia for their actions and blaming them for this war, China and cheese news won't use words like 'military attack' because they are not really unhappy about this war since that's not against their desires.

Since the conflict broke out, I have found that China has barely articulated its position. China does not want to confront its ally Russia directly, nor does it want to be seen as supporting an invasion of Ukraine. China is under increasing pressure from the United States and Europe as the West wants it to make its position clear and speak out against Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Beijing's refusal to help defuse the conflict is likely to increase Western hostility towards China in the medium term. This could increase the strategic competition between China and the United States, make the US-European link closer, and counter China.
Being very pragmatic, China does not want to be drawn into a conflict that is likely to destabilize its interests in the region, worsen relations with Europe and the United States, and disrupt its economy.

Not "really". Russia doesn't provide much to USA, maybe they are bribing certain politicians and NRA and so forth, but not the general public, and the oligarchs of USA, doesn't compete well against the Russian ones neither. So there is really no benefit of Russia for the wealthy people in the USA, not a lot at least. China is a different topic, they are willing talk badly about China in politics, but when it comes to companies and wealthy people, they love working with china.

China is cheap and they are amazing at manufacturing, so even when they commit a genocide on their own land and kill all the Islamic, as long as they could get the new iphone manufactured there for fraction of what it would cost in USA, they would be fine with it. So the "we are enemies with china" is all for a show if you ask me.

The US is China's foe as well. So, Russia and China might not be allies (Which I highly doubt that they are 100%) but they share a common enemy.
So, that makes them stand on the same page.

By continuing their (China) trades from Russia, this is clearly an act of support of the Russian invasion to Ukraine, while everybody else is supporting Ukraine for their act of bravery.

Not surprisingly, they are classic allies and China is taking advantage of this to strengthen a front of opposition to the USA and NATO. Some people say that China is going to take the opportunity to invade Taiwan, but I don't know what to believe anymore.

I hope that the Chinese will put the brakes on Putin so that he doesn't go crazy and start throwing nukes and they can also help Russia to have an honorable way out of all this. It would not be a good idea to leave Putin in a humiliating situation and for him to believe that he has nothing left to lose anymore.

In almost every country there are products that come from China. Right now, the economy is the most important thing, especially with China, where the last time the head of state asked Putin to settle things well. Of course if you involve yourself there will be a lot of losses to be borne, supplying needs is a great way to keep bringing in money

Of course it is very complicated with the current conditions especially for the EU and even though so many countries are currently involved and holding meetings to resolve all of this,
but of course Russia is not standing still,
it's better if we follow the latest news and keep up with its developments